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Re: How to make LSI or Lysergic Acid Isovaleraldemide at home from LSA in morning glory seeds, ancient LSD *DELETED* [Re: justjarvis]
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Re: How to make LSI or Lysergic Acid Isovaleraldemide at home from LSA in morning glory seeds, ancient LSD [Re: tregar] * 1
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This is such BS I can't believe it

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Re: How to make LSI or Lysergic Acid Isovaleraldemide at home from LSA in morning glory seeds, ancient LSD [Re: Blue_Lux]
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60% of adults read below a sixth-grade level.

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Re: How to make LSI or Lysergic Acid Isovaleraldemide at home from LSA in morning glory seeds, ancient LSD [Re: tregar] * 2
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Or most of us can’t read stream of conscious insane babble.  The best part is when you have conversations with your puppets.  I’m starting to understand this comedy.


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Re: How to make LSI or Lysergic Acid Isovaleraldemide at home from LSA in morning glory seeds, ancient LSD [Re: justjarvis] * 1
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I scroll right past all the insane babble now (or sometimes I skim read to check if he’s said anything new, most of the time it’s just copypasta from his previous posts). Most of it he has just repeated 1000 times in this thread. Every wall of text contains basically no information and is just a tactic to bamboozle people who are inexperienced or who want to believe for some reason.

So Tregar, instead of pointing out that we can’t read, maybe try being humble and honest instead? Trust me, it’s a better look than what you’re doing. I don’t believe you’ll change though, you’ve been doing this for too long. In too deep. Must continue the lies otherwise the poor old ego will take a beating.

It is incredibly obvious Tregar. You should save yourself some time and give it up.


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Edited by Bardy (09/05/25 07:44 PM)

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Re: How to make LSI or Lysergic Acid Isovaleraldemide at home from LSA in morning glory seeds, ancient LSD *DELETED* [Re: Bardy] * 1
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Re: How to make LSI or Lysergic Acid Isovaleraldemide at home from LSA in morning glory seeds, ancient LSD *DELETED* [Re: tregar]
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Re: How to make LSI or Lysergic Acid Isovaleraldemide at home from LSA in morning glory seeds, ancient LSD [Re: tregar]
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That’s not how you extract LSA. You’re obviously not a chemist :facepalm:

If you grind seeds and use ethanol and evap then you’ll be left with a black sticky substance with a complex range of chemicals, definitely not LSA crystals.

This is proof Tregar is lying about everything.

:cookiemonster:

Stir bars wouldn’t even fit in most shot glasses, and having a stir bar on high speed in a shot glass full of seed pulp and a tiny bit of ethanol… that’s the most ridiculous thing ever.


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Re: How to make LSI or Lysergic Acid Isovaleraldemide at home from LSA in morning glory seeds, ancient LSD *DELETED* [Re: Bardy]
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Re: How to make LSI or Lysergic Acid Isovaleraldemide at home from LSA in morning glory seeds, ancient LSD [Re: tregar]
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Keep digging man… it’s pretty funny


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Re: How to make LSI or Lysergic Acid Isovaleraldemide at home from LSA in morning glory seeds, ancient LSD [Re: tregar] * 1
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I hope in your book you actually prove the existence of LSI. The stories and claims are very engaging, but it's all highly theoretical without any proof. For all we know (and you) without that proof you are just doing seed extractions and making up stories.

You have never prefaced any of your claims to explain that LSI is completely theoretical, that you don't know what you're saying is true. You don't know if it exists, despite trying to appear like an expert. This has mislead people into thinking it's a known thing, when it's not. You have been deceiving people with your lack of transparency.

I would really like to see this, it would resolve a lot of the doubts I've had about this topic and move it out of the realms of science fiction.


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Re: How to make LSI or Lysergic Acid Isovaleraldemide at home from LSA in morning glory seeds, ancient LSD [Re: Bardy] * 1
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Bardy said:That’s not how you extract LSA. You’re obviously not a chemist


Calm down Bardy, tregar has mentioned multiple times about the varied alkaloid content of both HBWR and MG seeds.

If you'd like some guidance on constructive input, read the 2010 thevespiary thread on LSH. thevespiary is a forum for clandestine chemists.

I haven't set you to ignore but I can see why several people have with that attitude.

Edited by Breizh (09/16/25 06:38 AM)

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Re: How to make LSI or Lysergic Acid Isovaleraldemide at home from LSA in morning glory seeds, ancient LSD [Re: Breizh]
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No puppetry!

Difficult to distract from the fact that LSI is not a known thing.


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Re: How to make LSI or Lysergic Acid Isovaleraldemide at home from LSA in morning glory seeds, ancient LSD [Re: tregar]
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And that LSA cannot be extracted and purified to a level at which you’ll get anything crystallised by using ethanol.

My apologies for pointing out that fact Tregar.

Any high school student studying chemistry would be able to see through that lie, which is why I called you out on obviously not being a chemist.

I think that’s sufficient evidence.


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Re: How to make LSI or Lysergic Acid Isovaleraldemide at home from LSA in morning glory seeds, ancient LSD *DELETED* [Re: Bardy]
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Re: How to make LSI or Lysergic Acid Isovaleraldemide at home from LSA in morning glory seeds, ancient LSD [Re: tregar]
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Sad to say that your main point is nothing other than pure conjecture.  Look it up if you don’t understand what that is.  Without an actual historical recipe you will never be able to prove this conjecture let alone advance it to a hypothesis.  Stating it as absolute truth as you continually do is just extremely poor science to the point where it can be said it is completely unscientific. 

The ancient mysteries remain precisely that.  It could be true but there is no we can know absent physical evidence lost to time.  This is pure speculation. 

Applying Occam’s razor here, a far simpler recipe would also be far more likely than your fantasy presented here.  I’m talking about Psilocybe Serbica.  However that also remains unprovable.  I remain completely skeptical of anything you present.  Your arguments are not convincing. 

I won’t bother with your book.  I don’t deal in snake oil either.

It turns out real lsd is currently available and is very cheap.  No need to bother with this.  Just get the real thing.


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Re: How to make LSI or Lysergic Acid Isovaleraldemide at home from LSA in morning glory seeds, ancient LSD [Re: justjarvis]
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Tregar said: 9) Pour the 1/2 shot glass full of everclear extracted DL tartaric salted LSA alkaloids into a brownie dish and evaporate on a table with a fan blowing over it. I did this in my room, and 1/2 hour later was left with LSA crystals all over the bottom of the pyrex dish.


I know this statement is factually incorrect and is not possible. I know that any chemist would also know this. Even with the tiny amount of knowledge I have about chemistry I can still see this is a lie.

It’s not the first time Tregar has lied in this thread either, it’s just the most obviously falsifiable in my opinion so I took the opportunity to point it out.

If you extracted seeds with 95% ethanol and an appropriate amount of acid, you would be left with black glunk.

The only way you’d get something which looked a little crystalline is if you added way too much acid, then as the ethanol and water evaporated you’d probably see some tartaric acid crystals form.

Therefore, lie.


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Re: How to make LSI or Lysergic Acid Isovaleraldemide at home from LSA in morning glory seeds, ancient LSD [Re: Bardy]
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Real LSA extraction:

https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=35607


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Re: How to make LSI or Lysergic Acid Isovaleraldemide at home from LSA in morning glory seeds, ancient LSD [Re: tregar]
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Yeah those Ancient Greek magnetic stirrers were pretty awesome. 

What utter bullshit.


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