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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition

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#29313720 - 08/14/25 09:19 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

uap(unidentified agar phenomena)=/=contamination

ufo(unidentified fungal observation)=/=contamination

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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition

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#29313721 - 08/14/25 09:20 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

tryptkaloids said:

Trip, i could never keep good surface conditions in a sgfc. My environment averages 20rh year round and shit was consistently dry.

A water tub doesnt need packed full like a sgfc.

Fanning might help in a water tub or an unmodded mono. But for a properly dialed mono or a sgfc theres plenty of passive airflow to expel any co2 that may build up.

thats crazy u prolly didnt follow the tek or something 1/4 inch holes 2 inches apart 4 inches of damp perlite spray and fan a few times a day
its really bringing nature indorrs mushrooms grow in feilds wind blowing humity trapped by the grass fruiting tubs indoors is like what they do in nature they dont grow in caves :shrug:

:shrug:

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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition

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#29313725 - 08/14/25 09:29 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

tripdawg420 said:

the way i see a water tub vs a sgfc is that cakes generate heat heat generates currents pulling air throught the perlite and out the top allways fresh humid air being moved though the tub creating evaporation off the cakes pinning trigger mushrooms want damp air
now a water tub has no holes wich means heat generated by the cake is filling the tub hot stale humid air just stagnant till u come takee the lid off looking for mushrooms then it get a breath of fresh air then lid back on back to hot shitty fruiting conditions thats my take on water tubs ive seen to many cakes streched to belive diffrent
tubs want fresh humid air allways changing

Dont underestimate the actual respiration of the mycelium. As it uses up o2 it pulls more in through the imperfect seal. Typically you want a loose fitting lid like a shoebox.

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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition

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#29313727 - 08/14/25 09:31 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

oh im not mf already proven mushrooms will fruit in harsh conditions
but really how does a wt work where does the air come from and how is there eveporation just sitting in a sealed tub :shrug:

:shrug:

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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition

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#29313730 - 08/14/25 09:35 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Im telling ya, it wasnt how i followed the tek, it was that the tek was more work than it was worth in my environment when compared to chambers with slower fae.

I can spawn 4 shoeboxes, not touch them for 2 or 3 weeks and get more mushrooms with a smaller footprint than a traditional sgfc. And i dont need to put time in every single day multiple times a day. Just spawn, harvest, and dehydrate.

Evaporation just needs to happen at the surface. Just the act of it going from the sub to condensing in the walls and lid is enough evaporation to trigger pinning.

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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition

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#29313732 - 08/14/25 09:37 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

i dont know enough about that. seems like a microscope could settle that one.

edit was taklking to catnip re hidden contam

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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition

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#29313733 - 08/14/25 09:40 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

catnip40 said:

uap(unidentified agar phenomena)=/=contamination

ufo(unidentified fungal observation)=/=contamination

I can agree with these, but i wouldnt go so far to say hidden contams are a psy op

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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition

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#29313734 - 08/14/25 09:40 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

ya no one know :shrug:

:shrug:

not even the mf who wrote the tek :eek:

:eek:

its just a box of hot stale air till u open it up :eek:

:eek:

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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition

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#29313749 - 08/14/25 10:01 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

ok so fanning is that cakes or tubs or both

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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition

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#29313757 - 08/14/25 10:08 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

I personally only fan unmodded tubs.

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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition

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#29313762 - 08/14/25 10:12 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

but no fanning :shrug:

:shrug:

idk why any one would say that exchanging the tubs enviorment aka fanning is like the wind blowing in a feild that way the tub resets more evaporation tub fills up w fresh air :thumbup:

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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition

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#29313771 - 08/14/25 10:25 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

because its ~~provably~~ proven unnecessary

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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition

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#29313773 - 08/14/25 10:25 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Im not saying it does nothing. Im just saying it does less than its worth IMO

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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition

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#29313774 - 08/14/25 10:26 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

BeefSupremeJr said:

yes its true. its an important distinction. we talkin cubes. hhg is cube-centric too.

Wait, what?

I've been trying to grow ergot this whole time.

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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition

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#29313778 - 08/14/25 10:29 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

how is it unproven what fresh air exchanges been unproven what where was i at when this was unproven :crazy2:

:crazy2:

how was it unproven :shrug:

:shrug:

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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition

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#29313782 - 08/14/25 10:32 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

ive posted an entire museum of canopies of which i fanned not a single one of them.

do you not see how that proves fanning to be unnesessary?

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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition

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#29313788 - 08/14/25 10:38 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

maybe im not understanding what youre saying.. are you advocating for or against fanning?

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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition

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#29313790 - 08/14/25 10:38 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

can i see ur tubs i never got a chance to see them :shrug:

:shrug:

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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition

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#29313797 - 08/14/25 10:41 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

BeefSupremeJr said:

maybe im not understanding what youre saying.. are you advocating for or against fanning?

yup i exchange my tubs with fresh air 3 4 times a day :thumbup:

:thumbup:

and i have holes for constant fresh air my tubs are so mush humid air just exchanging all the time

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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition

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#29313806 - 08/14/25 10:46 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

its the stickied thread at the top of the cult forum. museum thread. feel free to post an exhibit.

i mean.. fanning probably doesnt hurt in the same way wearing a paper bag over your head doesnt hurt either.

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