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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition [Re: BeefExtreme] * 2
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liners are a crutch in favor of excellence

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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition [Re: catnip40] * 6
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like this?

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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition [Re: BeefExtreme] * 4
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heres a liner doing the job lol

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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition [Re: catnip40]
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catnip40 said:
liners are a crutch in favor of excellence



No liners area tool , it's like saying a shoebox is obsolete because you can grow in a monotub lol


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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition [Re: BeefExtreme] * 1
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BeefSupremeJr said:
seems to be exactly what the noobs think tho.  🤷‍♂️



Sounds like a personal problem 😂


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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition [Re: cronicr]
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thats fine. i'll just go ahead and update this thread as well as the hitchhikers guide.  It's not like anybody reads these things right?

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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition [Re: BeefExtreme]
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I think chron brings up a great point about volume.

Maybe one day ill get tired of washing tubs


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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition [Re: cronicr] * 1
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Agreed, the same result of either argument really does make the point moot :mushroom2: I'm glad to hear I'm not alone on thinking that side pins are genetic in some instances. Fairy rings are a great example

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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefSupremeJr said:
thats fine. i'll just go ahead and update this thread as well as the hitchhikers guide.  It's not like anybody reads these things right?



If they did they wouldn't have those personal problems 😂


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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition [Re: cronicr] * 1
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People these days are so focused on what they can eliminate when the goal should be to see what they can add to their arsenal


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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition [Re: Agar Wedge] * 2
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so, if i understand right, the overall opinion is, it can help but isnt neccesay.  a total canopy can easily be attained without it but as a matter of convenience, its optional.

sound good?

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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefSupremeJr said:
so, if i understand right, the overall opinion is, it can help but isnt neccesay.  a total canopy can easily be attained without it but as a matter of convenience, its optional.

sound good?



Indeed , if I had it my way we'd all be done with tubs and growing in bags 😂 but they ain't cheap on a hobby level.
Imagine trying to grow oysters without plastic 😂


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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition [Re: cronicr] * 2
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cronicr said:
People these days are so focused on what they can eliminate when the goal should be to see what they can add to their arsenal



im not in agreement with that bit.  ill concede that it might be an option if you hate scrubbing tubs.  ill say it *could* help with side pins although that has never been my experience. ymmv, i guess..

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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition [Re: BeefExtreme]
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If you've never experienced how plastic bags help with side pins try grow oysters in a monotub lol


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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition [Re: cronicr]
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Sounds good too me :mushroom2:

What I see is those who just want to trip prefer less work like an aio, or are sold on unnecessary automated jawn. Then those who get into cultivation and are always adding to the arsenal until they find it convenient to remove a practice or item, like liners or spraying the inside of a SAB every time. Both certainly have a place and seems like ymmv sums it up. Considering the basis is individual experience which can't encompass entirely different environment, practice, and materials to make a comparison of the two experiences representative of those data points. At least in our discussion of liners :awesomenod:

Fo sho, for the sake of research adding things is a step in the right direction, even if the ideal result is simply to remove it. only one way to find out:cool:

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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition [Re: Agar Wedge] * 2
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really lets just call every thing out dated mushrooms hasnt change they way they grow in millions of years but indoor has changed 1 billion times every week some one has a way better way of growing oh this is the new shit but it really goes againt real life shit dont want fresh humid air lets close it off fresh air is out dated wtf dont fan ur tubs that dont exchange the tubs enviorment like if the wind blows over a feild all the time  ive never got why every one is tring to change what aint broke :shrug: i dont get it:eek:


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coir tek
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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition [Re: BeefExtreme] * 3
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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition [Re: catnip40] * 1
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really if ur going to call 1 tek that works every time no matter what out dated then every thing is out dated no pour every thing :shrug: i havent changed the way i grow since day one and i grow some fat mf fruits healthy fruits idk  :crazy2:


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How U Survive This Life Everyday Resourcefully
epic GT mono tub
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17277772

wbs tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11525679
coir tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11917410
results :thumbup:

Edited by tripdawg420 (08/14/25 06:26 PM)

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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition [Re: tripdawg420] * 4
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whatever works for everyone is fine.
The bottom line is that I have not failed to grow a dense canopy in the last several hundred tubs. I did it without liners, black paint, polyfil, gypsum, vermiculite, fanning.

that would make all of those things completely optional if not utterly unnecessary. I think I'll rest my case right there.  As is my custom, I will update the hitchhikers guide with pretty much exactly what I just said. 

The readers have free will. they can decide for themselves whats obsolete or not.

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Re: outdated and obsolete information 2023 edition [Re: BeefExtreme] * 1
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yes u prolly did :shrug: them pics u showed the tub dosnt look like it seperated from the wall of the tub either like i said above thats why u get side pins while the first flush is forming evaporation off the sub even on the sides :shrug: the is a micro climate between the wall of the tub and sub :thumbup:


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How U Survive This Life Everyday Resourcefully
epic GT mono tub
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17277772

wbs tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11525679
coir tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11917410
results :thumbup:

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