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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk] * 9
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Kloakk said:
SkanskKorv said:
Shouldn't MiB be rather similar to TTBVI in cultivation considering they're a TTBVI hybrid (?) I obviously don't know but I'd like to since I've got these on agar too and they're about to hit the grains soon.



Yo, you might be on to something, I did not know that, and after some searching I found this. Thanks man, now the only thing I didn't find was the ratio and what is the latest, but this helped a lot as I can start prepping my substrate :rockon:

If anyone would share they're Pan grain to substrate ratio that would be cool.



I’ve been doing 1:2-4 range and it’s been working well


I think some people take it too far and go too low with pans.  I feel even tho they want that nitrogen, they tend to pin near grains

First flush MiB with that ratio range



Second flush


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: fahtster]
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fahtster said:
I’ve been doing 1:2-4 range and it’s been working well


I think some people take it too far and go too low with pans.  I feel even tho they want that nitrogen, they tend to pin near grains

First flush MiB with that ratio range



Second flush





I have these new containers I want to try out, they're bigger then the trays I've been using so I was hoping 1:4 would be okay. I've tried 1:2-6 and it's been fine, mostly 1:3 though, but with this new containers I was thinking 1:4 so the sub won't be to shallow, thanks again Faht :hatsoff:

That is some kick ass trays you've got there dude, what grain are you using? And are they laymixed?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk] * 1
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Ty.  They’re wheat.  It’s a nice MiB clone.  50/50 cv/manure

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: strawboy]
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The energy tones of BVI and bisporus are pretty different.  I think bvi is more potent but bisporus tends to draw me inwards.

If I'm not in the space to look at myself bisporus is the more difficult of the two.  And I generally suggest folks take it somewhere they can take space the first time.

BVI a lot of friends enjoy for recreation.  I find the comedown difficult physically so don't take it anymore.

I generally suggest 0.25g for a light dose.  0.5g for a full dose for a beginner or a medium dose for someone experienced.  And 1g for someone experienced, that wants to trip pretty hard.

Anything above that folks are on their own, because I've never felt the need to dose either of them higher :lol:

That goes for both of them.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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Cheching forum after many years, why are these TTBVI so popular?

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: R4cMan] * 1
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Because they're heavily domesticated (easier to grow) and have tested very high on potency (like, higher than anything else ever has).

They're also showing some signs of inbreeding.  Which is why I'd suggest grabbing MiB over it tbh.  As it's a stable three way cross of two other strains and BVI.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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this is a shitty pic fron a t3 MIB
the agar is low nutes abd quite low agar content (~4-5 g agar and 3.5 g LME on 500ml water)

it looks not too organized, but is clean imo
what do you think?



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: chris77] * 7
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Earlier this year in the spring I found an old spawn jar of an unknown Panaeolus species from North Carolina. I didn't have a proper grow tent running at the time and I just spawned the jar to some unsterilized coir/manure/potting soil in a plant pot. I sprinkled some grass seed on top and forgot about it.

I got a single specimen from it.



Currently have a proper mycobag of this species in a working Martha tent. Hoping for pins in the next few days.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: chris77] * 4
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chris77 said:
this is a shitty pic fron a t3 MIB
the agar is low nutes abd quite low agar content (~4-5 g agar and 3.5 g LME on 500ml water)

it looks not too organized, but is clean imo
what do you think?





I find that some vars of pans can get that disorganized look to them when put on low nute agar.  These are clones that were started on water agar and then put to .3% agar for a CS.

Most of that really disorganized look in the first two pics are because it’s actually on the lid growing off the roof of the cabin

And then when they get put back on grain, they look normal


Yours looks fine to me

Edited by fahtster (08/02/25 07:37 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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tree frog said:
Because they're heavily domesticated (easier to grow) and have tested very high on potency (like, higher than anything else ever has).

They're also showing some signs of inbreeding.  Which is why I'd suggest grabbing MiB over it tbh.  As it's a stable three way cross of two other strains and BVI.



easier to grow in what way? are they more contamination resistant?  need less fae? can be grown without manure?

Edited by R4cMan (08/02/25 07:28 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 4
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tree frog said:
They're also showing some signs of inbreeding.  Which is why I'd suggest grabbing MiB over it tbh.  As it's a stable three way cross of two other strains and BVI.



I mean are we sure it's stable? Really? I've seen more phenos with MiB than any other pan I've ever grown. I have a clone that
turns out these almost translucent, sporeless fruits. When you harvest, the bluing is almost a cyan color instead of the usual
deep blue.

I've had black spores, beautiful dark magenta spores, sporeless and fruits of all different shapes and sizes.

If anything, I would say to grow it because it's bad ass. One of the more visually appealing pans and has good potency.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura] * 2
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They may not be stable but my arousal is :naughty:

On T2's now. Wondering how many more T's before I move from plates to jars


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura] * 11
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Wow!
All that diversity in phenotypes sounds fascinating to work with!
Do you have some pictures of that variety to share Asura (please?).

Picture Tax - my pathetic first lil Pan fruit  after coming back to mush cult:



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
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I'm just getting into growing it.  But was meaning stable more in the sense of, it's not an early cross and seems to fruit well from the stuff folks have shared about it.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 4
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My Bisporus on pop corn is looking really good and my TTBVI is cleaning up nicely on agar. It feels good to be growing pans.

I built a dreamer tub because dkeppel suggested it and I saw kloakk's TTBVI fruits and I was keen to get similar results.

It's the middle of winter where I am so all I am doing is waiting at this stage. I might even use the popcorn jars as some masters and G2G over winter.


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I eat a few.  should be real tender.  Its tasty.  No starchiness or crunchiness.

Edited by el boso (08/03/25 09:18 AM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: el boso] * 10
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Panaeolus cambodginiensis



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: cambocyan] * 1
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Very pretty. The spores are starting to drop, when do you like to harvest?

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: The Tao]
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thanks The Tao right around this time is enough for me I don't like to let them go too long they mature fairly fast like other pans do.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PsiloPsychIn] * 9
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PsiloPsychIn said:
Wow!
All that diversity in phenotypes sounds fascinating to work with!
Do you have some pictures of that variety to share Asura (please?).

Picture Tax - my pathetic first lil Pan fruit  after coming back to mush cult:





This is one of the early rounds of the clone I mentioned. The pic really doesn't do it justice color-wise. I don't have a pic of the almost
cyan bluing for these.


And here's a "normal" grow of them.


God, I wish I had taken a pic of the spores for these. A beautiful magenta type color.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura] * 4
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My bisporus plates got pins!! And quite a lot of them... I'm so damn happy right now, I hope it keeps going this well :rockon: the childish joy this gives me is crazy...

Can I expect them to be fully mature by next weekend?



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