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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 7
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Hey Pan thread! I recently got back into cultivation after a 5 year hiatus due to moving to another country. I've got Alabama Bayou Magic on the go, I bought prints from Panaeolus Co-op. My first attempt went tits up, and when I started again I was plagued by contamination due to having left the fan in my room on too close to SAB time. I have some specific time constraints which prevented me from starting again so I kind of had to wing it, or else wait at least another 6 months before having the time to start up again! (fuck that). Anyway, the jars looked a little sketchy but out of the 5 trays I spawned, 2 of them have given really great first flushes, the others have some pins but aren't really going so well, however it's 7 days since casing so there's still time to turn it around. I've already taken some clones, but it's my first time doing it and fuck these things are flimsy as shit! I'm hoping to get a liquid culture going because I'm gonna be out of the country for 10 weeks and I wanna have a cloned culture to work with when I get back as I'll be moving cities which will cause more disruption.

Followed the JOC tek to a tee (except for using a hygrotherm for RH control instead of a timer), and I used Asura's casing recipe, so a big shout out to them! Cheers!

I also have some great looking Peace River jars that are ready to spawn, which I'll be doing Saturday morning before traveling, so they'll be ready to case when I get back!

Jars:


Here's a contaminated jar I've kept sitting around for the hell of it:


Here's some contaminated plates with fruits (they've been sitting around for around 5-6 weeks):


2 days before casing:


Pins:


First flush:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jericho_Button] * 9
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I can't wait to try these.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 2
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:shaqwiggle:

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jericho_Button] * 1
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Gorgeous fruits!

Love how meaty the caps are in a well dialed in setup like that. :smile:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 5
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Taking a break from trying to grow semilenciata and waiting for new prints. Finally cleaned up my bisporus enough to grow. Took Kloakk's advice and used popcorn. Instead of flash prep or no prep millet, I went with an 18hr overnight soak.



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: el boso] * 1
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Some of my caps are turning blue, I believe that means they're aborting correct?





Do you think I should just bite the bullet and harvest all the trays now, or will some continue to develop even though others are aborting?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon]
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I think they want more evaporation.  With a JCM this can be done with a fan on a timer.

Essentially, I think what's happening is they're getting large enough for spores to start development, but without evaporation they can't cool off enough to protect the fragile DNA.  The colony gives up on those and starts to digest them.

Anyway, the aborts will get more mushy if you wait to harvest.  But you have a lot of healthy mushrooms that will likely perk up if you can get some periodic air flowing in the chamber.

Up to you if you want to go for bigger caps with some adjustments or harvest now.  Personally, I would use the abort flush to dial in my process and harvest it later.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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I can increase fresh air a bit by turning up my exhaust fan's power and increasing the frequency. Thank you for the suggestion!

Should I increase misting as well to prevent things from drying too much?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon]
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If the caps dry out, yeah.

But from here it looks like they're staying to wet for to long.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 2
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Just posting this up...may just be a cautionary tale of what not to do.  TTBVI grown with liquid fertilizer and coir.  No crap.  No vermiculite...No nothing.  Cased 1/2 of it with pasteurized field cap verm that had been sitting in a bag (sealed) for a month or more.  Left other half uncased because looks like a lot of pins forming anyway.  Increasing FAE and misting sides.  I've had TTBVI abort if I misted them directly when they were tiny.

Thinking I might mist half of the uncased side directly....After all the goal here is to make some abuse resistant, neglect friendly TTBVI.  May be headed down dead end road as noted by treefrog due to sterility and genetic bottlenecking, but I did not know this and already got this party started.

Will keep you posted.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 4
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tree frog said:
I think they want more evaporation.  With a JCM this can be done with a fan on a timer.

Essentially, I think what's happening is they're getting large enough for spores to start development, but without evaporation they can't cool off enough to protect the fragile DNA.  The colony gives up on those and starts to digest them.

Anyway, the aborts will get more mushy if you wait to harvest.  But you have a lot of healthy mushrooms that will likely perk up if you can get some periodic air flowing in the chamber.

Up to you if you want to go for bigger caps with some adjustments or harvest now.  Personally, I would use the abort flush to dial in my process and harvest it later.



I think that’s prob what’s happening with mine then too.  I thought they were drying out but sounds like maybe the opposite.  It’s really happening hard in my new jcm which is a little shorter than my first one and I was keeping the drip shield in it even tho I didn’t need to (not a whole lot of condensation during the summer). The thought was that it would help suppress that environment near the trays but maybe it’s doing too good a job.  I’ve removed them in both chambers and I’m going to have a box fan in the room on a timer for a 30 min every few hours to see how that does. 



Bsrs clone put out a weaker 2nd flush than I was hoping but they’re pretty and dropping nicely which is what I’m after atm.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: fahtster]
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Yeah I really prefer to do the timers.  Mines on the foggers, which trigger a dehumidification cycle with the exhaust after they run.

So my setup is quite a bit different than a jcm, and more similar to a dreamer modified to run like Jake's autotubs, but having a box fan run on a timer should have a similar effect.


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I'd be running up that road
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 1
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I’ll lyk how it goes.  I think removing the drip shield is going to have an impact too.. the lid has a lot of holes in it and there’s an adjustable gap between the lid and rim so there’s going to be a lot freer air exchange

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox] * 2
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Not sure on mine yet, I need some help here guys.. are they suppose to look like this or did I mess up





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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jac-interplanetary] * 1
    #29282635 -

I think you're growing ochracentrata.  And they want more air.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26414295/page/1


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I'd be running up that road
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: fahtster] * 2
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The heating pads on top of my tubs changes the evaporation rates too.  I'm running those at 80f.  And it seems to help tropical strains open the caps more.

The outdoor bisporus dried out quickly at 80f outside, so I'm going to try most of those at mid 70s as I was happy with the morphology at that temperature.


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And if I only could
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And I'd get him to swap our places
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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I was thinking the same thing... Those don't look like pans :smile:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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I've got three trays that have all pinned but seem to be aborting, or are just insanely slow, whereas my other two trays that gave great flushes were both harvested yesterday, soaked for a couple of hours, and today there's already a fresh pinset. Can rehydrating a tray help? I'm giving it a try with one of them to see if anything happens.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hardhead] * 2
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hardhead43 said:



Just posting this up...may just be a cautionary tale of what not to do.  TTBVI grown with liquid fertilizer and coir.  No crap.  No vermiculite...No nothing.  Cased 1/2 of it with pasteurized field cap verm that had been sitting in a bag (sealed) for a month or more.  Left other half uncased because looks like a lot of pins forming anyway.  Increasing FAE and misting sides.  I've had TTBVI abort if I misted them directly when they were tiny.

Thinking I might mist half of the uncased side directly....After all the goal here is to make some abuse resistant, neglect friendly TTBVI.  May be headed down dead end road as noted by treefrog due to sterility and genetic bottlenecking, but I did not know this and already got this party started.

Will keep you posted.



Those white spots turned green.  Probably trich.  Tossed immediately.  This was doomed from get go because the bags sat for weeks before putting into tray.  Poor planning around my vacation.  Oh well. Live and learn.  I've heard that pans don't like to sit around.....keep the momentum going.  I did have some jars that sat in the fridge for weeks that successfully fruited......not recommended though I think.

Got some more coming right behind these that I have treated a little better and will see how they do.

Got some pH strips to test my casing as the soil meter (digital off amazon) I have just does not work worth a flip for peat moss /verm.  After adding a ton of lime still reads 7 and that can't be right.  Hopefully can dig into some of that tomorrow.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: fahtster] * 11
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fahtster said:
I’ll lyk how it goes.  I think removing the drip shield is going to have an impact too.. the lid has a lot of holes in it and there’s an adjustable gap between the lid and rim so there’s going to be a lot freer air exchange



Definitely seeing an improvement after removing the DS and adding a fan in the room on a timer

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