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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: spasm666]
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spasm666 said:
Nice shiitake there! I'm just learning the ropes with this species. I have my FC's dialed in for oysters and I have very, very much FAE and circulation fans so it gets kinda windy there, which apparently isn't that good for shiitake. I think they need more RH% too, and I'm not willing to up it from current RH% as my oysters and LM won't like any more. Would it be a good move to put some cover around the shiitake blocks? Like big totes without lids or just tape some plastic panels as walls around the shelves they're in? Of course not all enclosed to ensure breathing.



I haven't tried them in a tent dialed for oysters (I've only grown oysters in open air with a ton of misting, finally getting around to setting up a tent, though!). What is the RH in your FC? They seem pretty tolerant of lower humidity at least after pinning - in the tubs, I only mist once a day or every other day. It's often very dry in my house, but there isn't much moving air around those tubs and the holes are almost fully taped up with micropore, so that probably helps.

Might be worth giving it a shot in the same environment, and if it seems to dry out fast then I think covering with a tub while waiting for pins to come in would probably work. But that's really just a guess.

Or if you have multiple FCs, dedicate one to shiitake? :smile:

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: tree frog]
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tree frog said:
Gorgeous!

I'm going to follow your method.  I'm still learning shiitake and have just been consolidating, slapping, and then putting them in the tent.  Your pinsets put mine to shame.



Thank you! :smile: That's by far the best I've had, and also the first time I'd run 3782 and supplemented the bags (20% wheat bran). Hopefully I'll be able to repeat it!

What culture have you been running? I think 3782 is known for large flushes of small mushrooms. The 3790 run I did the same way wound up with larger mushrooms, but a smaller first flush by weight. And those blocks made it through the second flush without turning green unlike the 3782. :lol:

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Phaethon] * 1
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Shiitake 5000 is what I have on grains this year. It's a wide range that will hopefully fruit well over the summer for me too.

I also have a straw shiitake culture, which is one that's been bred to fruit off of straw. I haven't ran that one really. I bought it last year and then fell into depression.

Hopefully I can still revive it.


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: tree frog] * 3
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If you need other cultures, I have a bunch. I think straw is one of them. I’m happy to share.

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: RoscoeReturns] * 1
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I appreciate that :smile:  I'll have to see where my projects are at once I get situated again.

And I'm getting all of my cultures onto plates as I spawn them (grain to plate).  Happy to do some trades and share with some folks once I do.


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Phaethon]
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Phaethon said:
spasm666 said:
Nice shiitake there! I'm just learning the ropes with this species. I have my FC's dialed in for oysters and I have very, very much FAE and circulation fans so it gets kinda windy there, which apparently isn't that good for shiitake. I think they need more RH% too, and I'm not willing to up it from current RH% as my oysters and LM won't like any more. Would it be a good move to put some cover around the shiitake blocks? Like big totes without lids or just tape some plastic panels as walls around the shelves they're in? Of course not all enclosed to ensure breathing.



I haven't tried them in a tent dialed for oysters (I've only grown oysters in open air with a ton of misting, finally getting around to setting up a tent, though!). What is the RH in your FC? They seem pretty tolerant of lower humidity at least after pinning - in the tubs, I only mist once a day or every other day. It's often very dry in my house, but there isn't much moving air around those tubs and the holes are almost fully taped up with micropore, so that probably helps.

Might be worth giving it a shot in the same environment, and if it seems to dry out fast then I think covering with a tub while waiting for pins to come in would probably work. But that's really just a guess.

Or if you have multiple FCs, dedicate one to shiitake? :smile:



Thanks for the reply. I've thought that shiitake needs very high humidity, like 90%. I have about 80% RH there. But the drafts / air flows are what really dries them up. I've also read that shiitake tolerates very high co2 levels - but can too low co2 cause trouble? It's about 600ppm there. I think I'll try covering the shelves a bit and see if it helps with the drying.

I have just two FCs and unfortunately I cannot dedicate one to just shiitake.

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: spasm666] * 1
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Has anyone successfully fruited Chicken of the Woods in bags? I've read that spawn run takes 3-6 mos. I've got a bag here that is approaching the 3 month mark, but I have no idea how to tell when it's ready for fruiting. It's appearance hasn't changed much in the last few weeks except for the development of some orange-colored spots which I'm guessing are metabolites.



@RoscoeReturns you were the generous donor of this culture. Were you able to fruit it?

Edited by mycosispeon (02/15/25 01:19 PM)

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: mycosispeon] * 4
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mycosispeon said:
Has anyone successfully fruited Chicken of the Woods in bags? I've read that spawn run takes 3-6 mos. I've got a bag here that is approaching the 3 month mark, but I have no idea how to tell when it's ready for fruiting. It's appearance hasn't changed much in the last few weeks except for the development of some orange-colored spots which I'm guessing are metabolites.



@RoscoeReturns you were the generous donor of this culture. Were you able to fruit it?



I haven’t tried indoors as I’ve heard it’s next to impossible and I have a bunch of other things running right now. I do have it colonizing dowels to go to logs in the Spring. A few thousand shiitake, maitake, and chicken of the woods dowels. I have a bunch of trees to cut, so I’m planning a not so little fungus garden out back.

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: RoscoeReturns]
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What's the shelf-life of all your Lions mane fruits? I'm wondering how strain-dependent it is.

I try to keep fc humidity low enough, harvest early, store in very cold and in well breathing mushroom crates but still after 7 days they are already very soft, yellow and tastes bitter.

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: RoscoeReturns] * 1
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RoscoeReturns said:
mycosispeon said:
Has anyone successfully fruited Chicken of the Woods in bags? I've read that spawn run takes 3-6 mos. I've got a bag here that is approaching the 3 month mark, but I have no idea how to tell when it's ready for fruiting. It's appearance hasn't changed much in the last few weeks except for the development of some orange-colored spots which I'm guessing are metabolites.



@RoscoeReturns you were the generous donor of this culture. Were you able to fruit it?



I haven’t tried indoors as I’ve heard it’s next to impossible and I have a bunch of other things running right now. I do have it colonizing dowels to go to logs in the Spring. A few thousand shiitake, maitake, and chicken of the woods dowels. I have a bunch of trees to cut, so I’m planning a not so little fungus garden out back.



Yeah my expectations aren't high, but I'm trying nonetheless.

That sounds amazing! Wish I had a space where I could do that.

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: spasm666] * 1
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spasm666 said:
What's the shelf-life of all your Lions mane fruits? I'm wondering how strain-dependent it is.

I try to keep fc humidity low enough, harvest early, store in very cold and in well breathing mushroom crates but still after 7 days they are already very soft, yellow and tastes bitter.



Wow what strain are you using? I feel like my lm stays nearly the same for 7 days. After 2 weeks it doesn't look too bad, a little yellow and dry.. still tasty to me.

I store 5lbs in a large paper bag in the fridge.

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: deadmandave]
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Don't know the name of the strain but it's a professional strain that the biggest producer in my country uses himself. And he is big, like massive export and stuff. So I guess it's a good strain. But can't make it last. A week is maximum it can take. It's almost like the cells would break as it becomes soggy and spongy.

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: spasm666]
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Contamination concern or normal? Blue Oyster, on top of heavily colonised masters mix.


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Guerrilla] * 1
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Looks like metabolites, could also be excess water which is often golden colored from leaching the sub. possibly from bacteria. often when i see metabs like that is nothing to be too concerned about. looks about ready to send to fruiting, youll find out then if its compromised the grow but i bet the oysters can power through.

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: deadmandave] * 2
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King Tuber mycelium ate through a bag near a stone.  This species eating plastic is documented. So I knew this could happen. And it took about 9 months.



I need to figure out how to spawn them, I have five or six bags maybe.

From what research I have done, either keeping them whole or cutting them up, and planting them in clay soil should do the trick.  But they like to fruit in the 80s or 90s.  So, have a bit to go before the weather is right.

And apparently they're over being in the bags so I may need to do something sooner and just let them pop off once the weather is right.


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: tree frog]
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Hi everyone! I recently attempted a biopsy from a wild Ganoderma sp. (Alan suggested it's likely G. resinaceum due to morphological features, definitely within Ganoderma subgenus Ganoderma.) However, I thought the clone had gone awry because the BRF puck started growing... kinda weird tbh.

That area almost seemed like there were cobwebs growing in every direction. But the majority of the plate eventually looked powdery and flour-like.

I transfered some of this flour-like myc to 2 plates on 2/11 because I figured it could be the clone. However, it's grown a little faster than I expected, and less predictably. This is from 2/13, just 2 days after transfering:



This is an update from today:





Didn't take a puck update pic before dumping it, sadly. But it looked extremely overgrown and constantly condensed. The "cobweb" area made it around a fifth of the puck's surface area, and almost as high as the lid.

So, today, I was ready to just dump the plates and puck, as the speed/look of it all seemed a bit sketch. But while cleaning the puck, it smelled very mushroomy :confused: So I thought it wiser to double check here first. Does any of this look Ganoderma-esque? Should I take another xfer to a fresh plate, or just trash 'em?

TIA for your knowledge and advice :smile:


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: GreeneMyco] * 1
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It might be.  The myc does look similar to that.

I would try cabin sequestering if you want to save it.

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: tree frog] * 1
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Can you give a summary of cabin sequestering?


I agree the mycelium looks similar to other gano's but the speed at which it colonized the plate is startling. Sometimes ganoderma mycelium will change color to orange, yellow, red on Agar which could be a good signal. I wouldn't be surprised if the mycelium started weeping.

I vote you send it to a grain jar and then some woody substrate, the reward outweighs the risk.

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: deadmandave] * 2
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This is the bottom of the plate.  You can see I cut squares in the plate.  I put a small wedge in each hole.



This is the top.  I cut cabin roofs from the same plate, and covered the holes.

The mycelium grows through the roof.  Bacteria stays sequestered in the cabin.

It's a combination of sandwiching and trenching.

Sorry that's Pan myc.  So it's hard to see well.

There's more folks playing with it in Supa's thread here.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/29020482/page/1

And it's more for bacteria than contaminate mold.  So maybe not the best for cleaning up that particular culture.


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And if I only could
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I'd be running up that road
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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: tree frog] * 1
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Interesting, thanks for elaborating

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