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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: syllable] * 16
    #29047090 -

Mini ez dial for the win


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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: 3.A.M] * 3
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:damnwtf:
God damn! Generous caps !Noooice
Pint spawn? And you crack the lid?
My jars are finally in the finish line, so looking forward to see what the southern hemisphere brings :rockon:


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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: 999999999] * 2
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Can’t wait to see how they go for you!
That’s about 850mls of grain at 1:3 ratio and I twist the lid once they get about an inch tall so there’s about 1cm gap max at opposite corners, mist morning and night, sometimes in between πŸ‘


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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: 3.A.M] * 1
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Did those fruit like that with LITFA?


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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: 3.A.M] * 1
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I totally missed this message :blush:


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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: syllable] * 3
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syllable said:
do you have any resources on why you included grass?


I'm not bra but I started playing with grass last year.  My thought was pan bisporus is found in lawns often, that maybe they have a symbiotic relationship.  I did a few experimental grows that produced some gorgeous fruits but didn't have great pinsets due to using to much grass.

This fall I experimented more, and dialed things in better.  Also played some with clover.

My conclusion is that none of the three species of Pans I grow (cyans, mystery sa, and bisporus) have a specific relationship with the plants or accompanying plant bacteria beyond improved climate.

But the climate improvement can be substantial.  Plants hold humidity close to the pins and fruits.  Which allows for higher fae in your tote or tent.

The drawback is it makes harvesting more tedious and that if you use to many plants, the pinsets can be reduced.  The microclimate can also favor cobweb mold when to many plants are used.

The other major benefit though is you can take really beautiful, and more natural looking pictures.  And show them off in the picture thread :smile:

One of my favorites from this fall.  Mystery SA.



And my first experiment, which was largely open air fruited because of cobweb mold. Bisporus.




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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: tree frog]
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tree frog said:
syllable said:
do you have any resources on why you included grass?


I'm not bra but I started playing with grass last year.  My thought was pan bisporus is found in lawns often, that maybe they have a symbiotic relationship.  I did a few experimental grows that produced some gorgeous fruits but didn't have great pinsets due to using to much grass.

This fall I experimented more, and dialed things in better.  Also played some with clover.

My conclusion is that none of the three species of Pans I grow (cyans, mystery sa, and bisporus) have a specific relationship with the plants or accompanying plant bacteria beyond improved climate.

But the climate improvement can be substantial.  Plants hold humidity close to the pins and fruits.  Which allows for higher fae in your tote or tent.

The drawback is it makes harvesting more tedious and that if you use to many plants, the pinsets can be reduced.  The microclimate can also favor cobweb mold when to many plants are used.

The other major benefit though is you can take really beautiful, and more natural looking pictures.  And show them off in the picture thread :smile:


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First, thanks for the experiment and the pictures =).
My 2 cents on your work, 1) maybe pans are linked to specific(s) specie(ies), 2) and/or are present in lawns because it permits them to have the conditions to grow (I meant physics speaking).

Again nice pictures ^^

Edited by Fungify (12/09/24 04:33 PM)

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Re: ⭐⭐⭐ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 2.0 ⭐⭐⭐ [Re: Fungify]
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My third attempt at growing pan cyan. Great guide. Can I use coir and vermiculate for the top layer(not the casing layer)? I ran out of manure substrate... or should I just leave it without a top layer?

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Re: ⭐⭐⭐ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 2.0 ⭐⭐⭐ [Re: ksun18585]
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If you're planning to case it later I usually don't bother with the top dressing.

@fungify, thanks!

And yeah I think that there's microclimate factors at play. It allowed me to open air fruit when the weather was nice and they loved that.  If anything my tent was too humid for my last grass grows.  So it would have been possible to up my fresh air exchange, but I had other projects going in there that didn't have plants on them.

I also did consider different species. I've done grows on three different grasses now. One is a grass blend of I think four different species.  I've also done some with red clover.

I'm sure I will keep playing with it in some form. Especially outdoor beds I imagine it's helpful.


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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: tree frog] * 6
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MIB ms, not sure why but I’ve been getting a lot of exploded stipes recently, could be my manure is a wee bit fresh :/


Decent sized fruits though πŸ‘
Cheers MojaveMyc!
20 litre ez dial tub, 1:3 ratio with lid cracked after pins appear


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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: Baba Yaga]
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What’s a good way to keep the temp high how ttbvi like it?

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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: Krs_bmx] * 12
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Heat the room, I use a heater with thermostat at night in winter.

MIB update on harvest day, crosspost with pic of the day


Tubs for the win!


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How I prep brown rice

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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: 3.A.M]
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Dude your pans always seem to be massive :lol:

Did you liquid nute these?

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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: Dkeppel] * 2
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Those things are beefy af, almost equal to a lot of cubes I’ve grown but no, not liquid nutes, I need to experiment with some different brands and preparation methods as we don’t have what’s working for folks in the states, and I just needed to pump out some tubs to scratch that itch before risking some losses for science.
This is hpoo:straw:CV  20:10:70% respectively, higher nutes than I normally average which is 10% hpoo and tea to CV usually.


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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: 3.A.M]
    #29097320 -

I wish you could write your instructions for how you make your tubs exactly 3 AM, because my Cyan's just never take off, I've tried to start twice already :frown:


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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: QuantumZ00] * 6
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Honestly I’m still figuring them out but I’ve used babas method as the basis, I’m in a very hot and humid part of the world also which helps so I’m trying to mimic what I see in the paddocks while also dealing with similar external conditions, my method becomes more unreliable as the weather cools and humidity drops which would be more similar to how most people on the shroomery experience, I have to then keep the lids closed and even cover the lower holes in micropore, sometimes just partially to maintain conditions, they’re definitely a lot more finicky than cubes in that respect, just more sensitive to their environment.

Unfortunately for now, all I can say is you need to trial and error till you find what works and use babas write up as the basis, only thing I’m doing different is using ez dial but the holes are 3-3.5mm, I’ve found even with cubes and ez dial you need to change the hole size relative to the size of the tub, smaller tub, smaller holes or the substrate drys out too fast.

And don’t give up! It took me multiple attempts before I got fruit and I still have a large rate of failures, some varieties will work better for your conditions too, just gotta find which ones (:


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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: 3.A.M] * 8
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Pan bisp, Washington.....sporting a little green in the back, only got one mistimed flush, but they sure are pretty.  First time working from this print and collected a few more.

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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: stagger] * 4
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Thanks for giving this thread the occasional love guys :heart:

Got two tubs of Burringbar going at the moment. First tub was spawned 10 days ago and the second one 9 days ago but tub #1 is now more like 5 days ahead in terms growth development. #2 is catching up though. Not sure why this as the cultures are coming from different lineages of MS.

Both are fruited at spawn, they are uncased just applied a top layer of coir at spawn. Substrate is sous vide pasteurized compost/manure/straw mixed with bucket-TEK coir in a ratio of about 1:2. 30 quart oldschool tubs with one quart of spawn each to about 4-5 times the amount of bulk.


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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: Baba Yaga] * 3
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Hell yea Baba, they're looking healthy!  Are you able to get away with not casing throughout the whole year?  For whatever reason, I've only really tried this in winter and trays fruited, but it was awful looking.  I should give unmodded a try maybe.

Got Burringbar here too, they're starting to look like they've had enough with misting.  Also wish it was a bit warmer in the basement where the tent is, these little led strips are ok, but it'd be nice not to have them I'm a corner of a room:lol:



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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: stagger] * 2
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:rockon:

I only grow in the warm season and that does translate to night/day temperatures between 14-22C in spring and 18-27C in summer sometimes a bit higher. I think I do get the best/constant results when temps are in the mid 20's but had also OK results in the lower range. There is always a degree of hit and miss though.

Yeah, those Burringbar of yours are looking like they got the pip for some reason. Too wet might have gotten them into an issue with bacteria? I said it before but I think an adverse reaction to misting is more contam related rather than a genetic issue. My reasoning for this assumption is that pans are being fast colonizers and I feel like although they are occupying the substrate very fast, any underlying contam is going to creep up slowly making effects of contamination more subtle and express differently than with other slower species. Well, all just gut feelings on the topic. In relation to this I have to say that the trend I see a bit more of lately to send MS as early as possible to preserve genetic diversity is not always doing one the favour they are looking for.


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