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Re: Spawn [Re: deadmandave]
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I appreciate the post link Deadman. Got a King Oyster LC from a reputable dealer that has always been good for me. Everything has been working well until this pin issue.

I've been waiting for full colonization to cut the bag, not pinset. Guess ill follow what Hummus recommends and wait it out. Thanks again

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Re: Spawn [Re: pinned]
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Got my first king oyster bags ready to fruit i think. I cut the bags open, wrapped some tape tightly around the top this morning and put them in a tub with an airstone and a fan pointing at the tub on mininmum speed. Lets see how that goes. Definetely some cool looking pins already :smile:

Was reading about a cold shock in previous posts here. Is that necessary? I mean, wouldnt be a problem - i can put them down in my basement @12°C overnight or longer? I have 2 more bags that i didnt open up yet to see how these go first.



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Re: Spawn [Re: deadmandave]
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deadmandave said:
the man said:
no he meant conditions..




Yes. I was curious what you did mycosispeon, to get such a nice pinset. No need to thin. Hope it's growing along well.

Pinned, it sounds like you're doing it right, timing is good and temps are reasonable.. Could be a bunk culture. Has it worked in the past? Basic strategy of to wait for full colonization and then just cut a small opening in the bag, pins will form on the surface and then introduce to fruiting. Follow hummus's advice: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27187063#27187063



Ah ok. When it started pinning, I cut off the top of the bag maybe 1/2" from the top of the block. Then I covered it with an inverted 2.5 gallon food storage bag in which I cut off both corners so I would have holes big enough to mist into.



It out grew that the other day, so now I have it in a mono with a 2" SFD on each side

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Re: Spawn [Re: pinned]
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pinned said:
First attempt at growing King Oysters but cant get them to pin/fruit.
I have read that a cold shock + good FAE are required so I set some bags in the fridge (40F) for 12hrs and some outside (40-50F) for 12 hours yet nothing has pinned in 2 months. I am using bags and have cut a different kind of slit/cut in every batch with no results. From 0% FAE to 100% FAE. I have cold shocked some bags more than once and waited a week and unfortunately nothing has been working.
Other species like Lion's Mane and cubes grow great so I am guessing this is an ambient temperature problem but that is my uneducated guess.

Any help or recommendations on inducing pinning/fruiting would be much appreciated. 

My tent Setup:
-65-70F degree year round temp
-85%+ humidity
-12/12 light cycle
-Lipa TEK= HWFP+Gypsum Substrate
-Tent Fan is Negative pressure (exhaust blows outdoors)
-Fan is set auto 10 min off W/ 1m min on, on repeat.



I never tried cold shocking them.  They fruit between 50 and 60f.  65f might be too high.

Suggestions would be a longer cold shock (24-48 hours, you want to initiate primordia) or fruiting them in the bag in a cooler room if you have one.  Since you already cut the bags, you could put them in a mono.

If none of that works, maybe try Black Pearl?  They're a King/Pearl hybrid that's a lot more aggressive and a bit less picky about conditions.  Still prefer it cool though.


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Re: Spawn [Re: tree frog]
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Are these Shiitake bags ready to fruit? Spawned them on 11/28


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Re: Spawn [Re: mycosispeon] * 3
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mycosispeon said:
Are these Shiitake bags ready to fruit? Spawned them on 11/28





Not yet. I just harvested first flush from blocks I spawned first week of October. Ideally the block will get brown all over. You’ve already got the “popcorn,” those bumps forming on all surfaces, and the browning is started. I like them to be completely brown before I fruit them.

This one is about what I’m looking for, minus the fruit obviously.


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Re: Spawn [Re: RoscoeReturns] * 1
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Ok thanks RR. Probably another month out then. I'll be spawning the next round in about 2 weeks.

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: mycosispeon]
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Fruit 1



Fruit 2

Samples taken from a wild oyster. Mold or healthy myc on 1 and 3?

#2 gives me the most hope since the sample has fuzzed up alike #1 but there is nothing on the plate yet.

The little white bumps (easiest to see zoomed in on pic 1) got me thinking mold.


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Edited by Guerrilla (01/17/25 04:47 AM)

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Guerrilla] * 1
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5 days of growth?

I like #2 the best as well.

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: deadmandave]
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16 days ago, I inoculated with Lions Mane LC this small amount of RGS grain in this jar thinking I would grow a puck I'd slurry to a couple of other larger jars jars.  Also just testing how clean the LC was.

I kinda forgot about it and just looked at it today.  Now, keep in mind, since inoculation, the lid has been screwed on tight and it has been in a dark drawer in a room about 72 degrees for 16 days.

Clearly 3 different pretty healthy looking small fruits grew inside on a tiny amount of straight RGS with no FAE, no light and over 70 degrees.  They're still getting bigger.

How is this possible?  Is there something to be learned here?

Would anyone clone these fruits?



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Edited by KauaiOrca (01/17/25 04:41 PM)

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: KauaiOrca] * 1
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I have a bag of WBS HE spawn that I left too long in a 0.2 micron filter bag. Fruitbodies started developing. I added some extra filters so it can breathe more, but it would create fruits with just the bag filter

..but 16 days is impressive. Fruit it out, and see how it goes!


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Edited by space.madness (01/17/25 05:00 PM)

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: KauaiOrca] * 1
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Lion's mane will pin on agar, before the plate is even colonized. :shrug: It likes to do that in grain jars too if you're not paying attention.

Gourmet cultures are normally not worth cloning from, because the cultures that are distributed tend to either be clones or well-tested single-strain germinations. It shouldn't hurt to try, but the clone culture will not likely perform differently than the mother culture.

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Phaethon]
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Phaethon said:
Lion's mane will pin on agar, before the plate is even colonized. :shrug: It likes to do that in grain jars too if you're not paying attention.

Gourmet cultures are normally not worth cloning from, because the cultures that are distributed tend to either be clones or well-tested single-strain germinations. It shouldn't hurt to try, but the clone culture will not likely perform differently than the mother culture.



That's good to know!  Thanks.

Maybe I'll just stick then to my original plan and slurry it into some larger grain jars and fruit those.


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Mycolorado]
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Have a fruiting block that I have pulled off 2 big “heads” (sorry newbie, know that’s the wrong term). Of lions mane. As you can see there are some other spots that have much smaller cluster of pins that showed up early and haven’t really grown. 

I’m not sure what to do next.  I have pretty good luck with the first flush always (oysters in 5 gallon drilled buckets, commercial grow in box oysters or button) but I am the worst at getting a second flush from anything. 

Should I let this go and see what happens?  Or can I break it up in some aspen pet bedding or something to get it to grow more?  If that’s the answer can I do it in my monotub?

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Lestouffer]
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It's probably pretty dried out from having the entire bag stripped off - most mushrooms (with the main exception being shiitake) are fruited from slits in the bag against the block, or from the top of the block with just the top of the bag cut and folded down or sliced off. Bags are left in the fruiting chamber (kept moist) for a second flush.

I doubt you'd have much success breaking that block up into more wood. You can sometimes get away with that for oysters, but those species tend to be a lot more aggressive colonizers.

You could try soaking the block for a couple hours and fruiting it the way you did for the first flush.

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Phaethon]
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Both of my blocks this time had serious side pinning and ended up making secondary cuts which made the integrity of the bag.  It’s at 91% humidity in the monotub.  Still think it needs soaking?

If I rewrap the sides with plastic wrap, will that help? 

Soaking for how long?  And I’m about to have to leave them for 5 days.  Should I soak now or when I get home?  I don’t leave for a week. 

Edited by Lestouffer (01/19/25 11:47 AM)

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Lestouffer] * 2
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Pretty stoked that my first gourmets grow is working out!  Have only done actives before so wasn't sure how it would end up.

Have my first Lions Mane fruits popping out of the bag slits. I'd say it's a little bigger than a golf ball right now...



I also tried casing a jar and it's pinning too...



And this Blue Oysters Jar I cased as well is doing good too.



The lighting and camera make the whites look more beige than they actually look in person.

Maybe my first harvest by the weekend?


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: KauaiOrca]
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Anyone here with the Field & Forest LM I could work a deal out with?

They won't ship to me here in the UK, I asked.

Also looking for Maine Cap N Stem's PO-CNS.

Would be insanely appreciated. Just got a commercial unit here in the UK and have been having a lot of trouble getting decent cultures.

Ordered from Southwest Mushrooms, waited over 2 months for him to turn around and cancel my order..


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Guerrilla] * 3
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My Blue Oysters are coming along...




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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: KauaiOrca]
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People usually ask the other way but how about this:

Could cubes be grown easily with the same method gourmet mushrooms are grown? Like make a bag, sterilize in atmospheric steamer, inoculate (with grain spawn or liquid inoculant) in front of a flowhood, incubate and after colonized (and consolidated?) fruit in a FC with conditions dialed in for gourmets? I'm not interested in doing it myself but someone asked be and I wasn't totally sure what to answer him.

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