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Re: Thinking about my first grow. Need some advice [Re: Seriously_trippin]
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Almost all recent suggestions I've seen have been to crank the dehydrator as high as it will go (usually around 165 f I think) for 24 hrs. I do that myself. You will lose a lot more potency if you put them in long term storage when they haven't been dried completely, as shown here.

Overall this is a minor issue as far as potency goes. If you don't think yours are strong enough, either start over from spores to look for stronger fruits to clone, get a different variety or species that is known to be strong, or just grow more of the ones you have. Whatever % loss in potency you get from drying is negligible compared to the factors of species/culture/amount you grow.

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Re: Thinking about my first grow. Need some advice [Re: LyleChipperson]
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LyleChipperson said:
Almost all recent suggestions I've seen have been to crank the dehydrator as high as it will go (usually around 165 f I think) for 24 hrs. I do that myself. You will lose a lot more potency if you put them in long term storage when they haven't been dried completely, as shown here.

Overall this is a minor issue as far as potency goes. If you don't think yours are strong enough, either start over from spores to look for stronger fruits to clone, get a different variety or species that is known to be strong, or just grow more of the ones you have. Whatever % loss in potency you get from drying is negligible compared to the factors of species/culture/amount you grow.


Oh shit good to know I should change it now before it goes too far into it . There's just so many different opinions on this and I got confused thank you :smile: I'm trying to pave my own path but this is important


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Re: Thinking about my first grow. Need some advice [Re: Seriously_trippin]
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I switched it to 158 for 23 hours (it had been an hour at 115) and 158 is as high as it goes and is what the HHG recommends. Thank you so much I thought it was outdated by the way I saw people talking in recent threads about it.


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Edited by Seriously_trippin (09/02/24 07:25 AM)

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Re: Thinking about my first grow. Need some advice [Re: Seriously_trippin]
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Seriously_trippin said:
I switched it to 158 for 23 hours (it had been an hour at 115) and 158 is as high as it goes and is what the HHG recommends. Thank you so much I thought it was outdated by the way I saw people talking in recent threads about it.


A dehydrator does not get hot enough to destroy any actives in the mushrooms.

The faster you get them dry the less potency loss. This is why we all suggest max temp on your dehydrator for at least 24 hours. Larger fruits may take longer.

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Re: Thinking about my first grow. Need some advice [Re: RockinRobot] * 5
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So I thought I'd give an update. I got about 12gs dried give or take from the harvest.

Firstly where we left off on dehydrator talk I had the opportunity to experiment with it alot. I was drying small amounts in 158 degrees like 40 ish gs at a time and I cut them in small small pieces. After 12 hour at 158 it was crackers dry and I was ready to eat them within the next day so I weighed em and it was exactly 1 10th it's weight.

42g wet 4.2 dry Then the next harvest it was another 40gs wet and I dried those for 24hrs and they shrunk down to like 3.5. Another smaller batch my dad and I wanted before the 12 hr mark because we wanted to watch a trippy movie on the peak  and they were dry but not cracker dry. We had a good time on those but it was A) the 3rd day so wasn't as potent and B) I believe because it wasn't completely dehydrated it took longer tondigest and led to a lesser expierence but it was still great.

So now essentially my new policy is if I want to eat it that day or the next it needs at least 12 hrs at 158 and if I'm keeping it longer then 24hrs is the only way to go. But It is weird that with 12 hrs it shrunk exactly 1 10th like it should but after 24 hrs I lost a . 5 in dry weight.

There's 3 thin mushies still growing and some thin pins coming in but im guessing its from too much fae while harvesting or moving them too much. Harvesting a watertub is tricky business but I'm probably going to trim them up and soak and try another flush.

All I know what to do in that department is trim the cakes of any excess mycelium soak for 24 hrs and put em back in the water tub and continue the light cycle etc. So any advice on that would be appreciated.


Since this was a project to help my dad and my depression it's gone a significant way into starting that process. I just don't benefit from microdosing in a big way so we needed to have at least 2gs a day for 3 days. I feel so much better then I did 3 days ago :heart:  And my dad has definitely benefited but it's more challenging because he takes seroquel but I think he really benefited too.

I've had alot of shrooms in my life and plenty more potent than this B+ but they were absolutely the cleanest mushies I've ever had. It's so hard to explain but the expierences are pure psilocybin, no nausea or any bad effects I normally get. And they were pretty potent for B+.  It's amazing really.

The first day after the 2-2.5gs I felt so refreshed and just felt good which I haven't felt in years.

I was able to have a great,fun, bonding time with my best friend where we helped each other with incredibly serious problems in our life, watched alot of comedy and laughed a lot which makes you feel bett0er (he had his own shrooms for the record ironically he had recently met someone). It's just been a great 3 days :awecid::heart: My literal brain chemistry needed a reset badly and it got it.

It's so weird not having the depression in full force. It's not gone but it's better which is everything to me. It's a badly needed breath of fresh air. I'm terrified it won't last but I can grow my own depression medication now and you don't know how much hope that gives me.


Thank you so much everyone for teaching a man to fish it's truly benefited my Dad and I and hopefully I can be one of the people that can say it saved their life. I could use a little saving and this is the only thing that's ever helped my depression. So I have real hope now.

Thanks to everyone of you :heart: :hug:


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Zombi3, Blue Helix
Modest Mouse
Zappa, Jellyfish
Slothie
That Kid With The face
ShLong
Le Canard
split_by_nine
& Big Worm Forever
Etched in the sands of time in the shroomery and ever so beloved and deeply missed by many :heart:

Edited by Seriously_trippin (09/06/24 01:31 AM)

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Re: Thinking about my first grow. Need some advice [Re: Seriously_trippin]
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This is the first day after the 3 days of therapy and I still feel very refreshed :smile: it's so nice :awedance: I may have a few broken toes because on harvest day I ran into metal and it's severely swollen and bruised and I heard 2 individual snaps. Going to urgent care tomorrow but I feel pretty good.

I do have a question

I've been trying to find info on how to do the 2nd and hopefully 3rd flush but haven't found the info between harvest and soaking the cakes. I still have a few small shrooms growing,many small pins,a few big pins and some odd growths or mycelium "stumps" from mushies i cut off. Should I let em grow or harvest it and "trim the cakes of any excess mycelium" then soak? I just don't know if a successful 2nd flush requires you to take off as much excess mycelium I guess. Any insight into that and I'm sure I can figure out the rest


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Modest Mouse
Zappa, Jellyfish
Slothie
That Kid With The face
ShLong
Le Canard
split_by_nine
& Big Worm Forever
Etched in the sands of time in the shroomery and ever so beloved and deeply missed by many :heart:

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Re: Thinking about my first grow. Need some advice [Re: Seriously_trippin]
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It sounds like you've had a very good and productive experience, hopefully that will keep working for you long term.

Flushes are more of a convenience for the grower. You can decide when a flush is done, pick everything off and dunk your cakes. Not every pin is going to develop completely, and all growth may not want to stop at a convenient time for you. I personally pick a point where most of the mushrooms are completely developed and pick everything off at that time, I rarely wait for stragglers to catch up. 

With cakes they'll all grow at their own pace so it can be even more difficult to get an even flush. You can just pick them all at once and dunk them, or if you want to wait for stragglers to mature, keep them going longer. Some cakes might just want to throw up a couple fruits at a time instead of a full flush. At a certain point you'll have to pick off whatever's left and dunk the cakes, and that will be the start of the next flush.

I haven't bothered with cleaning up stumps and such, the new pins find their own way.

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Re: Thinking about my first grow. Need some advice [Re: LyleChipperson] * 1
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I really did have a great expierence and it's certainly not going to last forever. Even today I feel slightly perky but not terrible. The way I see it, it's an actual medication and meds can't just be taken once or twice and fox the problem. That's why it's so amazing that I can make the meds myself :smile:



Oh okay that makes alot of sense. Pins grow everywhere on cakes so having a few stumps on it won't be a big issue. Yeah it's sad to harvest such small shroomies but it really is best to rip the bandaid off and try and get that next flush going. Thank you so much my friend :hug:


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R.I.P
Zombi3, Blue Helix
Modest Mouse
Zappa, Jellyfish
Slothie
That Kid With The face
ShLong
Le Canard
split_by_nine
& Big Worm Forever
Etched in the sands of time in the shroomery and ever so beloved and deeply missed by many :heart:

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