hamloaf said:

Thanks. I am going to read through your build.  I figured this thing would have to be modified, I just do not know to what extent exactly.

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Phaethon said:

MrJong said:

riseupandfight said:

$4 wire mesh food cover at dollar store. I picked up two of them, they work great as strainers for grain prep and are much larger than most strainers amd for 1/3-1/4 the price.

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This. So fuckin much. If you intend to do any amount of grain beyond a single jar at a time, get a large strainer. It's such a pain in the ass having to cycle 80 times through a small ass one.

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I have a large strainer, and I like it, but I like my much cheaper 5 gallon paint strainer bag even more. It saves so much time - I put the grain in the bag before rinsing, it stays in the bag through boiling and draining, and draining is just throwing the bag in the sink and occasionally agitating and flipping the bag. I even spill less grain on the counter when scooping from the bag to fill jars.

Get some paint strainer bags, I doubt you'll go back to any kitchen strainer.

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Or, if you have the space, you can just make one yourself for only a few bucks.

You can even choose the size adapted to your sink or bath tub.

4 woodsticks and a net made from alloy against flies. 10 minutes work with a wood stapler and you're done

Nice thing about this is, you can spread the grains evenly out and just shake it every 10 minutes. After 30 minutes, the grain is perfect. Dry outside, moisturized inside. At least for my Rye it works perfectly.

3.A.M said:

I just spray a paper towel with iso then wipe down any plates with writing, sharpie only comes off when you spray it directly.

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Phaethon said:

it's a hell of a lot less messy. And it just goes in the sink, so I don't need to clear a big area to dry grains.

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Yeah, it can get messy with the screen i've made. Maybe gotta try out one of these bags you're mentioning. Always room for improvement

riseupandfight said:

I'm curious what type of pens ya'll use to label plates and jars. I spray the shit out of everything before it enters my flowhood and a lot of times it causes my sharpie ink to bleed.

Anybody have a solution for this? I've tried postage labels, same thing. I was considering using clear tape over my writing.

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ContactUFO said:

Phaethon said:

it's a hell of a lot less messy. And it just goes in the sink, so I don't need to clear a big area to dry grains.

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Yeah, it can get messy with the screen i've made. Maybe gotta try out one of these bags you're mentioning. Always room for improvement

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wavyedge said:

hamloaf said:

Thanks. I am going to read through your build.  I figured this thing would have to be modified, I just do not know to what extent exactly.

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Great! I just unfucked that thread's photos and updated with results from my baeocystis grow.

You can find it here.

Actually SupaThaRipper has a similar commercial fridge to what you're picking up.  I'm suggesting that he just build a fogger tote in the bottom of the fridge, and pipe it up to the top, just let the humidified air drift down over the subs. No drilling or modification to your fridge needed, you don't have a separate freezer portion like I do. Just get an inkbird temp controller and use it to set your fridge target temp. I use cycle timers for my fogger, and just leave the circulation fan running constantly. It's a waterproof 12v fan.

In my experience, you don't really need FAE increase beyond opening the door every day or two. Workman and I speculated about this years ago. It holds true at least for baeocystis (and mislabelled cubes lol).

If you decide to pipe in warm air from the room, it just seems to overwhelm the refrigeration.

Holofractal's indoor woodlover experiements shows an alternative method utilizing tubs inside the fridge, but I didn't want to run an air pump inside the humidified fridge, for the likely corrosion it would cause inside.

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hamloaf said:

Would prefer not to drill holes in it so the tidbit about putting the fogger inside of the fridge is appreciated.  Looks like there is a little bit of reading to do before settling on exactly what modifications to make to the fridge.  Not in any sort of rush though.  You and the others pioneering work on this project is also appreciated.

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vicepope said:

1.50 a bag wtf alibaba my dude, 1000 box order of xl bags any size mirco 5 to .2
140 bucks plus 80 for shipping. Anyway I found and old screen replacement for doors that if folded to block off in a laundry sink is best for grain. Especially big bacths.

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Phaethon said:

vicepope said:

1.50 a bag wtf alibaba my dude, 1000 box order of xl bags any size mirco 5 to .2
140 bucks plus 80 for shipping. Anyway I found and old screen replacement for doors that if folded to block off in a laundry sink is best for grain. Especially big bacths.

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I wasn't talking about spawn or grow bags. I explained in detail why I like mesh bags for grain prep, and a screen covering a drain hole really doesn't compare.

Yeah, you might need to fill an entire sink if a 5 gallon bag isn't sufficient for your grain volume. But that doesn't apply to many here, and I'm tiring of reading your posts that often seem to be designed to brag about your (past?) grow operation size or belittle people who are actually doing this at hobby scale.

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I'm sorry I didn't mean harm. I don't try bragging. I've had the same screen for many years .
I use te laundry sink cause I'm dirty as hell and not cleaning it like my dish sink.
I keep the jars next to the sink out of m being lazy and cheap.
I use actives as my hobby growing , helps with my seizures and cluster headaches. I don't run more then 50 qts of spawn at a time.  I'm very sorry I don't want to upset people or make them feel down. I will try to do better. If I fail at this people point it out to me.

wavyedge said:

hamloaf said:

Would prefer not to drill holes in it so the tidbit about putting the fogger inside of the fridge is appreciated.  Looks like there is a little bit of reading to do before settling on exactly what modifications to make to the fridge.  Not in any sort of rush though.  You and the others pioneering work on this project is also appreciated.

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My fridge has been a lot of tinkering, and it's still somewhat difficult to balance. But honestly if I can pull off what I have, it's within the reach of everybody who has enough persistence.

I will say it's essential to have a way to measure conditions over time. I use some custom sensors but there are cheap, off the shelf options.

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vicepope said:

I'm sorry I didn't mean harm. I don't try bragging. I've had the same screen for many years .
I use te laundry sink cause I'm dirty as hell and not cleaning it like my dish sink.
I keep the jars next to the sink out of m being lazy and cheap.
I use actives as my hobby growing , helps with my seizures and cluster headaches. I don't run more then 50 qts of spawn at a time.  I'm very sorry I don't want to upset people or make them feel down. I will try to do better. If I fail at this people point it out to me.

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Yeah, sorry for the outburst and that you saw it before I tried to correct it.

If I had a laundry sink conveniently located to where I cook grain, I might even try that. Though I would probably get grain into the laundry that inevitably finds its way onto the floor.

3.A.M said:

I just spray a paper towel with iso then wipe down any plates with writing, sharpie only comes off when you spray it directly.
Anyone know if you can boil the grains in the brewers bag?

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3.A.M said:

And I know I posted these before but I’m doing it again cos they’re rocking my world, I’ve now thrown out or given away most of my jars in favour of these small bags

I’ve been testing them out more with no prep millet and finding a good balance with 700-750ml grain to 300-350ml water which is almost double what I was getting in a 1ltr jar, except I can fit 9 bags in my pc instead of 7 jars, so far I’ve used some of the bags 3-4 times and they’re still going strong, if I pre prepped the grain I could probably fit 12-13 per cycle if I wanted.
In a lazy day I can pop through 3 cycles of 27 bags, split a plate between 3 bags which is actually more than my average large bags per tub and they colonise almost twice as quick, I’ve actually had to pull everything right back because my production levels are getting out of hand and I’ve run out of space.
I have found I’ve needed to put a couple layers of micropore over the filter as the grains closer to the top were drying out and not colonising and you really need to clear out the bottom gussets after inoculation to mix the wetter clumps of grain through the bag to avoid bacteria but that’s it, little sods have changed my life!

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