Smellyhobbit said:

The trans people you know don’t negate the grooming of children. It’s such a bizarre way of looking at things.

“I know people who had fulfilling consensual sex, so rape isn’t an issue.”

Yes, transitioning works for some people. No, that doesn’t mean children who are gay and autistic should be groomed into becoming trans by doctors, teachers, and parents.

These two things are unrelated to me.

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Sulfurshelfsean said:

He doesn't see it as helping kids who have identity issues or whatnot. He thinks they're being molded into trans kids.

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Lynnch, you’re conflating 2 issues. You actually have no idea what “rhetoric” I’ve been exposed to, and that’s why you feel the way you do. You’re still making assumptions about me that aren’t true.

Smellyhobbit said:

I just wanna say it’s very hard to have this conversation when the opposite viewpoint won’t stop putting words in your mouth. You guys have to make an awful lot of assumptions about the media I consume and the company I keep to make me this person in your head, someone I most assuredly am not.

If you want to talk to me specifically about it, you’ve gotta keep it on topic. Obviously I’m not here to police your speech to other people; say whatever you want.

But this talk of right wing, left wing, Christian, blah blah blah doesn’t involve me. I won’t be baited.

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Smellyhobbit said:

I’ve seen probably half a dozen interviews

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Smellyhobbit said:

hearing these stories straight from victim’s mouths is enough for me.

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Smellyhobbit said:

The trans people you know don’t negate the grooming of children. It’s such a bizarre way of looking at things.

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Smellyhobbit said:

“I know people who had fulfilling consensual sex, so rape isn’t an issue.”

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Smellyhobbit said:

Yes, transitioning works for some people. No, that doesn’t mean children who are gay and autistic should be groomed into becoming trans by doctors, teachers, and parents.

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GenericHero said:

TheStallionMang said:

Kids are, by nature, easily influenced. To recognize that fact doesn’t mean I believe there is such a thing as being gender fluid

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You believe that there are two genders and that they are set. One is right and the other is wrong for each individual. That they are fundamental and immutable. But also that they can be changed though suggestion. Seems inconsistent

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Mystikal said:

Stop fighting. Can't we all just suck lady boy dink?

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I would if I had any around

Mystikal said:

Stop fighting. Can't we all just suck lady boy dink?

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TheStallionMang said:

You think because I say kids are easily influenced that means gender can be changed?
That’s fucking stupid. It cannot be changed but kids (and apparently low mentally functioning adults)can be convinced that it can. Just look how easily fooled you were  into thinking your position is the right one and you’re probably a grown man.

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TheStallionMang said:

Yes I am a parent. I believe in the old saying that it takes a village to raise a child and especially once you become a parent, it’s your job to look out for all children. All adults should look out for all children.

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TheStallionMang said:

My daughters friends are treated and looked out for as if they are my own anytime they’re around. I’ve seen multiple  parents acting the exact opposite way and actually have seen them put their own kids and mine is harms way and it blows my fucking mine

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Lynnch said:

It's.. really obvious what rhetoric you've been exposed to, because it's what you're repeating.

So, Trans adults are fine and good. But trans kids don't exist, and are all being groomed. Is that right?
That can't be what you believe, because it makes no sense.. hmm

Whatever, I'm not going to argue this all day. Be nice to trans people.

And again for (hopefully) the last time: Stop trying to force your way into the doctors office to make decisions for other people's kids, it's weird. Mind your own business, it's very easy I promise.

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stareatclouds said:

Lynnch said:

What's being done to kids? Any sort of surgery you want to criminalize is so vanishingly rare as to be non-existent. Some teens get put on puberty blockers. Big whoop, they're reversible.

What I don't understand is why anyone thinks it's their business. This is between the kid, their parents, and their doctor. Worry about your own kids.

Everyone on this site should understand that SAVE THE CHILDREN, is rarely about the children, but a scare tactic designed to criminalize and control us all.

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Man, why are you people so weird with such terrible logic? Internet made it too easy for people to spout off awful opinions formed on 0 actual knowledge base. How are you so confident on shit with no information? Are you all just projecting on how you get manipulated by media? Puberty blockers are absolutely not "reversible" either.

pirate-blues said:

They totally do lol. There were over 200k surgeries performed on ages 13-19 in 2020

https://www.webmd.com/teens/teens-plastic-surgery

This older stat states about 200k on under 18s in 2005 so it's reasonable to assume that no where near all these kids were 19.

https://journalofethics.ama-assn.org/article/teenagers-and-cosmetic-surgery/2005-03



Not trying to justify it, just saying that cosmetic surgery for teenagers is a very normalized and accepted thing, has been for a while, and still is. In fact, they think social media is making it much worse, too. And we're talking cosmetic surgeries like breast implants and stuff, there's a separate stat for non-invasive procedures like fillers/injections.</font></font>

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No, they don't.

Some plastic surgery procedures, like breast enlargement, liposuction, and cheek implants are generally considered inappropriate for teens, except in unusual cases. But other procedures may be beneficial.

They're not giving BBLs to 15 year olds. And we would all find that deplorable anyway, which is the point.

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TheStallionMang said:

Haha yes typos can be funny sometimes

It’s much too nice of a day to be on here
Later dorks

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GenericHero said:

Why not show him? Link the interviews you've watched

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I would love to, but first I’d like him to tell me. You know since he’s making all these incorrect assumptions. If I like first, no matter what it is, he’ll just claim that’s what he meant all along.

So I’d like to hear it first