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Re: WMDs and Morality [Re: trendal]
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Swami stated that 'we' have no moral issues, which may not include Swami. Rather the majority of the people in the US, one of them is luv.

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Re: WMDs and Morality [Re: trendal]
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'We" does not always equal "I".

Or do you always agree with "we"?

If he claims "we" have no moral issues with potential, he's wrong. Many do, many don't.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: WMDs and Morality [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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So thats what is is.

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Re: WMDs and Morality [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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Actually yes..."we" does always include "I" unless you want to bend the rules of the english language :smirk:

Your name isn't Willie Clinton by chance, is it?


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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.

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Re: WMDs and Morality [Re: trendal]
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Wrong yet again.

Swami used we. That does not include me (I).

Weak dude. Really weak.

Or if I say we here at the shroomery love Bush, does that include you as well?


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: WMDs and Morality [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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Oh lol man...I thought you were trying to say that "we" does not include "I" (the speaker himself)! :lol:

No...if swami says "we" it does not necessarily include "you" (luvdem).

However if you go back to where I quoted the two of you...swami said that "we" do not have morality issues with the potential for killing lots of people in one go. "We" obviously, in this use, includes the speaker (swami). Your quote says "I have no moral issues with POTENTIAL". So are you not agreeing with swami, then? Did you not just say that you have no moral issues with potential?

Oh, and:

Or if I say we here at the shroomery love Bush, does that include you as well?

No it doesn't necessarily include me as well...but it certainly includes yourself, which is the point I've been trying to make all along here :wink:


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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.

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Re: WMDs and Morality [Re: Swami]
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The USA never gave WMD to Saddam Hussein. Swami gave away the fact that he belongs to an Islamic terrorism organization and is spreading disinformation on the internet.

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Re: WMDs and Morality [Re: Ed1]
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You can see here who gave Saddam Hussein the most weapons:


http://projects.sipri.se/armstrade/Trnd_Ind_IRQ_Imps_73-02.pdf

Top three suppliers of arms to Saddam Hussein, 1973 - 2002

USSR: 57%
* France: 13%
* China: 12%

Then, in order of importance:

* Czechoslovakia: 7%
* Poland: 4%
* Brazil: 2%
* Egypt: 1%
* Romania: 1%
* Denmark: 1%
* Libya: 1%

USA's sales -- 1 percent. None provided before or after the Iraq-Iran war.


Syria hiding Iraq WMDs
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36463

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Re: WMDs and Morality [Re: Ed1]
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One thing that the Islamic terrorists posing as liberals on the internet always do is deny that Saddam Hussein had WMD and then say the USA gave Saddam Hussein WMD. Both are lies.

Syria hiding Iraq WMDs
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36463

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Re: WMDs and Morality [Re: Ed1]
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If you think Swami belongs to any religious organization you have a lot to learn here, newbie. Registered for 6 days and you already think you know everything about these boards, eh? Talk about ignorance...or is it arrogance? :smirk:


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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.

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Re: WMDs and Morality [Re: Ed1]
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Ed1 said:
Swami gave away the fact that he belongs to an Islamic terrorism organization and is spreading disinformation on the internet.


Your ignorance is showing. Just because one is not enamoured of the killing of innocent people by his own government does not mean that he supports the killing of innocents by anyone else.


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To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.'  Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence.  Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains.  Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.

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Re: WMDs and Morality [Re: trendal]
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Quote:
Or if I say we here at the shroomery love Bush, does that include you as well?

No it doesn't necessarily include me as well...but it certainly includes yourself, which is the point I've been trying to make all along here


Well. I didn't write that the way I intended. I guess I should have paused a sec before clicking on continue.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: WMDs and Morality [Re: Evolving]
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You are showing your ignorance. The Islamic terrorists hide behind civilians and try to cause civilian casualities. They don't care about anyone. They just try to spread Islam throughout the world.

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Re: WMDs and Morality [Re: Ed1]
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No, one of little knowledge, I am much more familiar with Swami than you. If you can figure it out, find the search function and look at Swami's posts. He is hardly an Islamisist (any thinking person could come to that conclusion himself).


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To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.'  Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence.  Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains.  Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.

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Re: WMDs and Morality [Re: Evolving]
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http://pub43.ezboard.com/btheantijihadforum

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Re: WMDs and Morality [Re: Ed1]
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Your link has nothing to do with Swami. The only association Swami has with Islam or terrorists is in the minds of dullards.


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To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.'  Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence.  Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains.  Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.

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Re: WMDs and Morality [Re: Evolving]
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Even if Swami was a muslim, what difference does it make? Muslims are no more a collective consciousness than Christians. The stories told in the Qu'ran parallel the Christian bible quite nicely in most respects. I worry about the actions of extremists and fanatics of ANY religion, not a religious group as a whole.

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Re: WMDs and Morality [Re: ]
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Fiend said:
You are pathetic. You are so paranoid and brainwashed you actually think people who disagree with the Bush administration's insane foreign policy must be terrorists posing as liberals? That's probably a new low for this forum, and that's saying a lot.


I like Bush's foreign policy, so am I insane, pathetic, paranoid, and brainwashed?

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