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Re: Post Your New Tools Of The Trade [Re: TPython] * 3
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New thingy, I cannot understate how much more I prefer this as a storage method compared to jars


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Re: Post Your New Tools Of The Trade [Re: tholos] * 4
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tholos said:
New thingy, I cannot understate how much more I prefer this as a storage method compared to jars




Jars are still the best but bags have worked for me — only if I double bag them though (extra thickness and helps with poking). I currently store in glass, with dry and dry, and vac seal the glass. It takes a lot more space…and jars…and it too isn’t perfect.

All of this is better than a fkn ziplock.


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Re: Post Your New Tools Of The Trade [Re: tholos] * 2
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even better if you doublebag it:
fruits and silica in ziplock and seal


edit: xVadisx beat me to it... lost time looking for Seal


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Re: Post Your New Tools Of The Trade. [Re: rhizoRider] * 1
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I was in the store a week ago when kissed by a rose came on over the loudspeakers.  My partner got treated to me having batman flavored childhood flashbacks, iykyk.

rhizoRider said:
Here it's all gud here 👍 :leafromp: and tiny to be hidden. I'm in pro hunting state but sux other ways lol 😆

I know Cali has smaller blade rule , and new York bans all OTF. are there others that have special rules?


Technically legal in Oregon, but they can still nail you with carrying a concealed weapon if they feel like it.  Something to do with the blade fully concealing in the handle.  Same thing with cane swords, totally not legal here :lol:  My family used to know a guy that worked the evidence room for PPD years ago and he claimed they had barrels and barrels of cane swords, I blame it on goth kids.

Top be fair, I don't know of any states that aren't hunter friendly since that's how F&W tends to get it's money.  Fuck california for charing over $200 per tag for invasive pigs though, that's how you get permanent populations of highly invasive swine.  Oregon pulled out all stops and fees and we dropped from thousands of invasive swine to ZERO in two years :lol:

Just further proof that you can in fact eat your problems, and it's probably the best way to deal with them.


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Post Your New Tools Of The Trade [Re: xVadisx] * 3
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xVadisx said:
tholos said:
New thingy, I cannot understate how much more I prefer this as a storage method compared to jars




Jars are still the best but bags have worked for me — only if I double bag them though (extra thickness and helps with poking). I currently store in glass, with dry and dry, and vac seal the glass. It takes a lot more space…and jars…and it too isn’t perfect.

All of this is better than a fkn ziplock.


I have an issue with those vac seal bags perforating over time, and it's pretty consistent. 

Jars definitely take up space and can break, but the seal on them never fails.  I have mushrooms that are five years old and still ripping potent thanks to jars.

I'm not saying vac bags are not a valid and good way to store, just not the very best IME.

And I think we all agree that ziplocks are for growing mushrooms, not storing them.


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Post Your New Tools Of The Trade [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Finally in my state I'm in half the time they differentiate knives and guns now for ccw permits. It is a shame cops with glocks act afraid of citizens with knives so I only keep it handy in cheesestate and feel safe. If I travel It stays put


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Re: Post Your New Tools Of The Trade [Re: 999999999] * 2
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Gleyck said:
even better if you doublebag it:
fruits and silica in ziplock and seal



This is a great way been using it forever and never had a problem.


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Re: Post Your New Tools Of The Trade [Re: rumfor69] * 4
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All my vac seal bags, double bagged or not get spongy eventually, usually within about a year, have since discovered food grade buckets, can store separately in ziplock bags then popped in a bucket or just by themselves.
Just recently weighed up a bucket I’d filled about 4 months ago, realised I’d forgotten to put silica packs in there, everything was still crispy af, never going back.


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Re: Post Your New Tools Of The Trade [Re: tholos] * 4
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tholos said:
New thingy, I cannot understate how much more I prefer this as a storage method compared to jars




Cut open the bags and see how the fruit looks in the weeks and months ahead. You may be surprised. There is a thread with more info in my sig.


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Re: Post Your New Tools Of The Trade [Re: 3.A.M]
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What kind of buckets exactly, got a link?


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Re: Post Your New Tools Of The Trade [Re: Yuggoth] * 5
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I mention failure with vac seal bags because I hunt and fish.  You think mushrooms degrade fast when a package is compromised?  Try dealing with fish.  The vac seal bags ALWAYS fail, ALWAYS.  I have never had one last longer than a couple of months before failing, and that is across platforms both machine and bag.  When you put as much effort and income into hunting as I do, you notice the things that fail you.  I literally get better results by wrapping meat in saran wrap (very tightly) and then in freezer paper.  Meat wrapped that way will last over two years, vs months in a vac bag.  Granted I prefer vac bags for fish and sausages I am going to consume within a three moth period.

I'm interested in hearing about 3AM's buckets (and more cat pictures) but my honest opinion is the only way to store mushrooms long term without fail is in jars.


Also I was born in Portland and we all have a mason jar fetish.  Look, I'm just being completely open about my bias.


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Post Your New Mysterious Tools! [Re: OLDDAD77] * 1
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Mwj12977 said:
LogicaL Chaos said:
:biden:

Im gonna guess for harvesting fruits.


“Come on man!” 😂.

Yes they will be for harvesting. Hoping to ease my pain on the fatties . I’m finding the razor knife to be a bit inefficient for my needs. Sounds like BigWorm confirmed my thoughts on their use!


Use a electric fillet knife. I'll carve out a 66 quart tub in less than 3 minutes 😂. Just pull with liner out set it on top of tub and crank her up like a chainsaw and boom done in seconds.


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Re: Post Your New Tools Of The Trade [Re: trippytimes] * 3
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The real point of fact here is that SOMETIMES bags fail. Jars don’t fail. That’s the choice. Maybe losing your harvest or not losing it.


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Anyone can get a canopy. But can you get what you want?

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Re: Post Your New Tools Of The Trade [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 2
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Smellyhobbit said:
The real point of fact here is that SOMETIMES bags fail. Jars don’t fail. That’s the choice. Maybe losing your harvest or not losing it.


I've recently taking to wrapping my jars in the original jar case and a contractor trash bag to block the light as well. I count my current supply up by how many "cases" I have :lol:. Jars are my favorite. I used to use dry and dry AND oxy absorbers -- but now just dry and dry packs. Jar sealing attachment for my vac sealer and I'm happy. Sometimes the vac seal breaks but still -- I've not had issues with potency.

I also have found that capsules stored in glass jars with dry and dry packs last for fucking ever.

For chocolate, I have these foilman pouches (heat sealable) that I fully vac seal the bars in and then those go into another vac sealed bag and into the freezer. That's the only thing I use bags for. Well, also gummies, but I just heat seal (no vac unless you want fucked up gummies :lol: -- I've done it).

The only people I know that really use bags grow....a lot. (a lot a lot) -- I have no idea what they do with it. Never will.


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Re: Post Your New Tools Of The Trade [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 2
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Hmm I've never had a bag fail or fruits get spongy in them. I even cut the bags long and reuse them tons of times.


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Re: Post Your New Tools Of The Trade [Re: rumfor69] * 1
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Yes oxygen absorbers and silica moisture absorbers are bs. If you fully dry them and put them into a worthy container (glass jars with 2-piece lids) they will last indefinitely. I've never had that fail. What is silica going to do for you besides holding moisture next to your hydrophilic shrooms? Fuck that. Dry them correctly. Store them correctly. No problem. That said, I don't dehydrate for storage anymore. All tea, all frozen as it occurs.

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Re: Post Your New Tools Of The Trade [Re: LadysKnight] * 2
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They sell the food grade buckets at Menards or home depot and air tight lids for like 5$ a pop. I concur on the buckets, easy, stackable, rock solid. Jars are great too but sometimes you just need a bucket…

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Re: Post Your New Tools Of The Trade [Re: kirkeng] * 3
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Soz, was out of range for a while, yes, large ones I get from the hardware store, smaller ones are old Greek yoghurt buckets we get over here, put my ground mushrooms in those ones.

Basically a miniature version of this.

And kitty pics as requested.



Beauty of those buckets is they don’t look out of place just sitting in the garage or laundry.


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Re: Post Your New Tools Of The Trade [Re: 3.A.M]
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Are they air tight or what’s up?


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The 7 Edicts of Mushroom Cultivation as Decreed by Smellyhobbit

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Anyone can get a canopy. But can you get what you want?

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Re: Post Your New Tools Of The Trade [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 6
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Yep, find the ones that come with the seal, once you put the lid on securely you need to pull the tab then peal the strip off to open it again, I just pull it off beforehand but those buckets are made by manufacturers supplying the food industry.

This is my odds and ends bucket that sits by my dehydrator, had the same 3x5g silica packets in it for months and every fruit down to the bottom is crispy, wish I’d started using these when I started.


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