Phishgrrl said:

Even if you already know what happened, this is put together in such a way as to sink it in- and get some of the brainwashing out of your system.

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coralrives said:

Phishgrrl said:

Dude, our lives are infiltrated by the mass media version of the "whole story" every day. Of course Moore is dedicating his whole life pretty much to show the other side that RARELY gets heard. You will hear plenty of republican right-wing stuff in this movie, don't worry.  It just might sound a little bit different to you. LOL you are in for a treat. Just try to keep an open mind.

What Saddam Hussein did has nothing to do with why we went to war on his country. You need to see this movie. Of course Moore will make money on it, I hope he makes plenty so he can keep writing books and making movies to educate people. If you look at him you will see that he cares VERY MUCH about his country, his people and the world. He is a very altruistic human being.  I love him.

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RARELY GETS HEARD?  Bush is bashed in the media every damn day!!  So your telling me CNN gives the right wing view, NBC?  CBS???  I don't think so.  FOX is the only news channel I know of that has a right slant.  Dan Rather, now there is a true journalist, LOL!!! 
I realize that we went to war in Iraq for reasons other than Saddam's killing his own people, I'm not nieve, or dumb.  I know we tried to draw the conection between Alqaida and Iraq.  I also know that Iraq will truly be better off than they were with Saddam in charge.  We are there now, we are about tho pass on the control to a native power, Bush is getting support as we speak from other countries to help build Iraq up and boost the new government. 
All I'm saying is, DO NOT take Moore's word as the gospel, it is not.  He hates, HATES Bush, he actually spends energy HATING someone.  Phishgrrl, do YOU HATE anyone?  I doubt it.  Why?  Because YOU know its wrong to spend energy on hate. (an assumption, please forgive). Nuff said from me.
Peace guys, I love you all.

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This movie is not about "Moore's word." It is a DOCUMENTARY.  Of course he can't stand Bush. IMO anyone in their right mind could see what is happening. I truly have a hard time understanding mindsets like yours, but perhaps it's because I refuse to pollute my mind with TV spews- uh- I mean "news". 

I don't hate any one person that I can think of,  but Bush and his cronies are commiting war crimes and crimes against humanity. It breaks my heart to see the war machine in action. It tears my soul apart to see people apathetically watching and condoning this fucking BULLSHIT.

If you think we are doing good things for Iraq by illegally occupying and killing them, then I guess you have been duped by the machine. 

silversoul7 said:

Phishgrrl said:

Even if you already know what happened, this is put together in such a way as to sink it in- and get some of the brainwashing out of your system.

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You mean replace one person's brainwashing with another.

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Phishgrrl said:

I truly have a hard time understanding mindsets like yours, but perhaps it's because I refuse to pollute my mind with TV spews- uh- I mean "news".

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silversoul7 said:

Phishgrrl said:

I truly have a hard time understanding mindsets like yours, but perhaps it's because I refuse to pollute my mind with TV spews- uh- I mean "news". 

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Those sound like the words of a brainwashed person if I ever did see them.

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Do they? Interesting. 
Yours sound like the words of a skeptic, which in my book is a Very Good Thing. Good for you for thinking for yourself. There ought to be more skeptics around- this world would be a much better place. 

coralrives said:

Phishgrrl said:

Dude, our lives are infiltrated by the mass media version of the "whole story" every day. Of course Moore is dedicating his whole life pretty much to show the other side that RARELY gets heard. You will hear plenty of republican right-wing stuff in this movie, don't worry.  It just might sound a little bit different to you. LOL you are in for a treat. Just try to keep an open mind.

What Saddam Hussein did has nothing to do with why we went to war on his country. You need to see this movie. Of course Moore will make money on it, I hope he makes plenty so he can keep writing books and making movies to educate people. If you look at him you will see that he cares VERY MUCH about his country, his people and the world. He is a very altruistic human being.  I love him.

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RARELY GETS HEARD?  Bush is bashed in the media every damn day!!  So your telling me CNN gives the right wing view, NBC?  CBS???  I don't think so.  FOX is the only news channel I know of that has a right slant.  Dan Rather, now there is a true journalist, LOL!!! 
I realize that we went to war in Iraq for reasons other than Saddam's killing his own people, I'm not nieve, or dumb.  I know we tried to draw the conection between Alqaida and Iraq.  I also know that Iraq will truly be better off than they were with Saddam in charge.  We are there now, we are about tho pass on the control to a native power, Bush is getting support as we speak from other countries to help build Iraq up and boost the new government. 
All I'm saying is, DO NOT take Moore's word as the gospel, it is not.  He hates, HATES Bush, he actually spends energy HATING someone.  Phishgrrl, do YOU HATE anyone?  I doubt it.  Why?  Because YOU know its wrong to spend energy on hate. (an assumption, please forgive). Nuff said from me.
Peace guys, I love you all.

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Ripple said:

Take a step back

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its everyones favorite game

synthesis said:

coralrives said:

Phishgrrl said:

Dude, our lives are infiltrated by the mass media version of the "whole story" every day. Of course Moore is dedicating his whole life pretty much to show the other side that RARELY gets heard. You will hear plenty of republican right-wing stuff in this movie, don't worry.  It just might sound a little bit different to you. LOL you are in for a treat. Just try to keep an open mind.

What Saddam Hussein did has nothing to do with why we went to war on his country. You need to see this movie. Of course Moore will make money on it, I hope he makes plenty so he can keep writing books and making movies to educate people. If you look at him you will see that he cares VERY MUCH about his country, his people and the world. He is a very altruistic human being.  I love him.

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RARELY GETS HEARD?  Bush is bashed in the media every damn day!!  So your telling me CNN gives the right wing view, NBC?  CBS???  I don't think so.  FOX is the only news channel I know of that has a right slant.  Dan Rather, now there is a true journalist, LOL!!! 
I realize that we went to war in Iraq for reasons other than Saddam's killing his own people, I'm not nieve, or dumb.  I know we tried to draw the conection between Alqaida and Iraq.  I also know that Iraq will truly be better off than they were with Saddam in charge.  We are there now, we are about tho pass on the control to a native power, Bush is getting support as we speak from other countries to help build Iraq up and boost the new government. 
All I'm saying is, DO NOT take Moore's word as the gospel, it is not.  He hates, HATES Bush, he actually spends energy HATING someone.  Phishgrrl, do YOU HATE anyone?  I doubt it.  Why?  Because YOU know its wrong to spend energy on hate. (an assumption, please forgive). Nuff said from me.
Peace guys, I love you all.

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i hate bush, i really dont understand how anybody else that is well informed on these issues couldnt hate bush. theres 100's of reasons i hate bush, cheney, rummie, richard perle, wolfowitz, and all the other neo-cons.
i'll go see farenheit 911, although i didnt like bowling for columbine. suposedly farenheit 911 isnt filled with moores opinions and stupid antics, but actual news footage and such.

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Actuall news footage, now THERE IS FACT!!!!

fujisawa said:

I for one can't wait to see it. It's amazing that even in the shroomery it's causing such debate

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We debate everything here it's traditional

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Phishgrrl said:
I don't understand why you guys don't think it's a documentary?? Can someone please explain this? Like I said before- the footage comes right off the senate and house floors- and from the mouths of historians, and government higher-ups and from soldiers, and families of soldiers...how is that not a documentary? Yeah some people like the family of a killed soldier are offering their opinions on the war. But how is that not a document and validation of their humanity? I am so confused. 

And of course I am emotional. And thanks for the Love.

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A documentary does not inject opinion.  Moore has already admitted that his movie is filled with his views, his perogative...  I can find just as many government higher-ups, families of killed soldiers, etc, that would give you different FACTS and OPINIONS!!!  Look at the family of Pat Tillman, NFL hero!    Again, read the post from earlier from the old liberal dude.  And I know you are well read and get your info from people, but what people?  what views do they share?  there are 2 sides to every story.  I sure hope that we can get along after this.  I sure have enjoyed your company whether you know it or not.

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pinksharkmark said:
Christopher Hitchens (a card-carrying Libbie from way back) had the opposite reaction to yours.

Here are just a few excerpts from his review at http://politics.slate.msn.com/id/2102723/ . There is much more detail at the link. I suggest anyone thinking of spending seven hard-earned after tax dollars on Moore's distortions and opinions take the few minutes required to read the entire review.

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