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At a total fucking loss, bulk failure.
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I used to be quite sucesful with bulk cultivation. Now, it seems that fate is against me. I'll describe exactly what I do and see if some peopel can spot whats going wrong.

1) I've been using "dehydrated cow manure". It comes in a 40 lb bag and honestly isn't that dehydrated. It's more of a wet-solid / mud consistency. I haven't dried it out before, so I'm thinking that could be a problem. In an effort to get it totally mixed in with the straw, I wetted it in a tubbermade and mixed the straw in with it. It sat like that for a day or three while I was letting grain jars finish up.

2) Got the straw/poo and filled a pillowcase with about 15 quarts worth of mixture. Pasteurized @ 170-190 for 1.5 hours. Removed, drained with a 15 lb weight on top. I noticed that, even after draining, the mixture seemed reallly wet, but I didn't do anything about it the first few times. A few times I squeezed it out more, but that didn't seem to really help that much.

3) Spawned with fully colonized WBS, put the lids on, tossed them into the incubator. 80-88 degrees F

4) The majority showed signs of growing out, but they all stalled at some point. After a few days of them being stalled, I saw the dreaded web growing across them. Cobweb in each and every instance, tho I did see some white blots that could be trichoderma presporulation

I really need some help here. I tried a bit of horse manure the other night, did just horse manure (lots of straw in it from their diet) at 160-170 degrees, as per automan's instructions, and drained overnight. This mixture was the same moistuer level that the PF substrate I remember making came out to being. Squeeze tight, get a few drops of liquid.

I'm thinking it was either due to the lack of drying the shit out, letting it sit in the water with the straw for a few days before use, or not draining properly. Any ideas?

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Re: At a total fucking loss, bulk failure. [Re: germin8tionn8ion]
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i use shit found in a field i use aged poo so all i need to do is break it up into little bits and put in my metal container with a cup of water and cover with tinfoil and oven at 70c for a hour works fine for me. i let it cool for a hour then put into my container i will be using this helps cool the shit down and when its cool enough i mix through my colonised substrate and cover with a layer of substrate and leave for a week in the dark with some plastic over it so it can breath but trap humidity. After all that i sprinkle some wet vermiculate over the top and leave for another few days until the casing has been colonised then expose to light and fruit.

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Re: At a total fucking loss, bulk failure. [Re: germin8tionn8ion]
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"I'm thinking it was either due to the lack of drying the shit out, letting it sit in the water with the straw for a few days before use, or not draining properly. Any ideas?"

Yeah, I think its one of those too but I'm gonna lean toward this


"I wetted it in a tubbermade and mixed the straw in with it. It sat like that for a day or three while I was letting grain jars finish up."


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Re: At a total fucking loss, bulk failure. [Re: Magash]
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You may want to pasteurize in the the oven next time. That way you don't absorb the water from the PC. Or if you still use a Pressure Cooker, put it in some type of plastic bag like the ones potting soil comes in. Those are supposed to work fine. Good luck!


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