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Pereskiopsis care
    #2808308 - 06/19/04 06:30 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I acquired 10 Pereskiopsis yesterday which I plan on using as root stock for grafting Lophophora, Trichocereus etc but can't find much info on the care of this species. David Rushforth says 'they need very generous treatment with good soil, plenty of water and feed, and warmth.' (http://www.living-rocks.com/pereskiopsis.htm)

By good soil does he mean potting soil or soil specificaly for cacti???

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Re: Pereskiopsis care [Re: Bi0TeK]
    #2808325 - 06/19/04 07:03 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I treat them just like regular plants and not like cactus.

They like lots of water and fertilizer. Water every 3 days or so.. never let them dry out.

I have mine in a high quality potting soil with a little sand/aeration material added.


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Re: Pereskiopsis care [Re: Aelph]
    #2808342 - 06/19/04 07:41 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Cool.

I'd read they like lots of water and fertilizer but was unclear about the soil type.

Thanks for the info!  :cool:


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Re: Pereskiopsis care [Re: Bi0TeK]
    #2809619 - 06/19/04 10:08 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

where you get your Pereskiopsis plant ? i have looking a lot of place but nobody have it .. only ebay .. but the price ... is ... high .. so can you tell me a place in canada i can get this :Pereskiopsis , thankx ... and if you want some info about your plant email me i can do something : fr33dom@msn.com


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Re: Pereskiopsis care [Re: fr33dom]
    #2810536 - 06/20/04 06:50 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I got my 10 Pereskiopsis plants for free off some old fella on a cacti and succulent message board. He originally obtained them from the grafting guru David Rushforth (http://www.living-rocks.com/pereskiopsis.htm). I don't know about sources for Pereskiopsis in Canada as I live in the UK.

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Re: Pereskiopsis care [Re: fr33dom]
    #2810565 - 06/20/04 07:33 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I got my supply in the US from Mesa Gardens and from Bob Smoleys.

I think Bob will ship them internationally..... but it is expensive.

Can't help you out in Canada.


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Re: Pereskiopsis care [Re: Aelph]
    #4464738 - 07/28/05 03:45 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

In Canada:
I got my Pereskiopsis here: http://www.ethnogarden.com/cart/
I don't know if he has it on his site yet, so you may have to email him as I did.

Edit:
Actually it up here http://www.ethnogarden.com/cart/index.pl/catid_88/proid_285


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Re: Pereskiopsis care [Re: JaguarWarrior101]
    #4873911 - 10/31/05 05:08 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

treat them like regular plant not like cactus, bad statement. give them a fast draining soil, and let the pots drain between waterings. have the soil a hair basic rather than acidic. you can water them as soon as you put them in dirt and they root alot easyer than pedros do. but they need the cycle of wet to dry to stimulate the root growth. cacti send out roots during dry periods in search of water. when i was first introduced to this plant, i was told that i didnt have to let the pot dry out between waterings, my pereskiopsis is almost coming back. it looks like its about ready to pup, but im still pissed off and have lost alot of growth time due to a "pro's" post about growing it.....


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Re: Pereskiopsis care [Re: Bi0TeK]
    #4873915 - 10/31/05 05:24 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

treat them like shit, they don't really care, maybe just were abouts you are, but i water them about once every couple of weeks or so and such they don't really care more of a weed than a succulant or cacti.


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Re: Pereskiopsis care [Re: spudamore]
    #4874097 - 10/31/05 09:18 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

pereskiopsis is a succulent plant, its in between cacti and regular plants, but definetly a desert dweller.

the info in the link above is relative to cacti, so compared to a cactus it requires alot of water and fertiliser, but still less then an ordinary houseplant.

im with ST34(etc), water them like a regular plant, then let em dry out good before watering again and respect the slow growing winter period.


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Re: Pereskiopsis care [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #4874148 - 10/31/05 09:57 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Dude...pereskiopsis is a cactus...a true cactus, not a succulent.

And I don't think they come from the desert, but a jungle or something. I could be wrong about that though.


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Re: Pereskiopsis care [Re: rewind]
    #4874220 - 10/31/05 10:23 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

a cactus? no way! lol

how is the distinction between succulents and cacti made exactly?
and if it were a true succulent it would not be fit for grafting?


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Re: Pereskiopsis care [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #4874257 - 10/31/05 10:34 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

i dont know if it NEEDS lots of water and fertilizer, as much as it will tollerate it and grow faster.

and yea its not a succulent its a cacti. thats why you can graft other cacti on it

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Re: Pereskiopsis care [Re: the man]
    #4874324 - 10/31/05 11:03 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Yep, cactus. But it does take more water than normal ones.


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Re: Pereskiopsis care [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #4874353 - 10/31/05 11:13 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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how is the distinction between succulents and cacti made exactly?





No idea.

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and if it were a true succulent it would not be fit for grafting?





No, you can't graft a cactus to a succulent and vice versa. Cacti can only be grafted to other cacti.


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Re: Pereskiopsis care [Re: rewind]
    #4874418 - 10/31/05 11:26 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

You can read about succulents and cacti here :

http://www.answers.com/topic/cactus

Says for Pereskiopsis :

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Two genera, Pereskia and Pereskiopsis, do however retain large, non-succulent leaves 5-25 cm long, and also non-succulent stems; they are possibly primitive genera, thought to be closely similar to the plants that cacti evolved from.




...it's like a primitive kind of cacti.


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Re: Pereskiopsis care [Re: rewind]
    #4874566 - 10/31/05 12:07 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Not to mention i have never scene a succulent with 100's of sharp spines before.

It roots readily and noticed that tip cuttings or stem cuttings with off shoots work best. Tried to grow a couple stick cuttings with no leaves no growth tips and it failed.


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Re: Pereskiopsis care [Re: JaguarWarrior101]
    #4876237 - 10/31/05 07:49 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

JaguarWarrior101 said:
In Canada:
I got my Pereskiopsis here: http://www.ethnogarden.com/cart/
I don't know if he has it on his site yet, so you may have to email him as I did.

Edit:
Actually it up here http://www.ethnogarden.com/cart/index.pl/catid_88/proid_285



DO NOT GET YOUR PERESKIOSIS FROM ETHNOGARDEN. IT IS AN UTTER AND COMPLETE RIPOFF.

You can order from Divine Cactus in the UK for much cheaper. They ship from europe yet their shipping cost is LESS than ethnogarden. Keep in mind I live in Canada, so that should NOT be the case.

I would go with Divine Cactus for sure. Go with ethnogarden only if you are super super super rich and don't mind paying 250% more.


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Re: Pereskiopsis care [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #4877982 - 11/01/05 01:13 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

i never go to that much trouble they get watered when i feel like it, maybe once every couple weeks and never have fert they are growing like weeds.


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