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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: koods] * 1
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Whatever Trump’s reasoning for these kinds of moves, they make Putin and Xi cream their pants every time.

How is losing geopolitical influence in the interest of the US?

First Paris, now this...next step is withdrawing from NATO.
MRGA! MCGA!

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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: feldman114]
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Reasoning ? There doesn’t appear to be any . He just seems to react to shit he sees on the news . It’s obvious he stopped the taking the advice  of qualified people who’s  job it is to keep him informed a long time ago .


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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Exactly.  That's why he's defunding the WHO.


What exactly did they do that caused our terrible response?


For starters, in mid January the WHO announced that there was “no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel coronavirus,” despite numerous reports to the contrary.  And they objected to Trump’s decision to impose travel restrictions on China, claiming it would “have the effect of increasing fear and stigma, with little public health benefit”.  They waited all the way to 11 Mar to declare COVID-19 a pandemic.


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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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But they give the whole world identical info. Why did other countries do so much better?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jacquelyncorley/2020/04/10/us-government-response-to-covid-19-was-slow-but-how-does-it-compare-to-other-countries/

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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Who cares if they objected to the ban. Who cares when they declared it a pandemic. The WHO doesn’t make policy for the US and the word pandemic is irrelevant to the situation. We all knew what was going on weeks earlier.

The Who didn’t say anything. They simply reported information they were receiving from the field. There were reports of human to human transmission, and also that there was no clear evidence. Their job is to get information out. This is how science works.

Regardless within days everyone include the Chinese central government was warning the world it was contagious. It’s also worth pointing out that the a vast majority of our index cases were European, and had nothing to do with what was happening in China in January but what was happening in Europe in February.





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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: feldman114] * 1
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feldman114 said:
But they give the whole world identical info. Why did other countries do so much better?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jacquelyncorley/2020/04/10/us-government-response-to-covid-19-was-slow-but-how-does-it-compare-to-other-countries/


Seriously. The US had more time to prepare, and we have still ended up fucked harder than any other country. 5% of the population and 35% of the cases. The only person in the world saying they had the virus under control in February was Donald Trump.

It’s almost as if the more a leader gaslights and misinforms, the more Falcon likes them.


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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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Before it's all over, the continent of Africa will suffer far more devastation than the U.S.


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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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The virus is expiring in 15 days. The April miracle.

Trump 2020
way better then zimbobway


Edited by koods (04/16/20 08:42 AM)

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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Exactly.  That's why he's defunding the WHO.


koods said:
Who cares if they objected to the ban. Who cares when they declared it a pandemic....


Exactly.  That's why he's defunding the WHO.


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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: feldman114]
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feldman114 said:
But they give the whole world identical info. Why did other countries do so much better?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jacquelyncorley/2020/04/10/us-government-response-to-covid-19-was-slow-but-how-does-it-compare-to-other-countries/


1/3 of all US coronavirus cases are in New York.  Bill de Blasio didn't do a very good job there.



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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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He shut down our own pandemic unit months ago. Now he's cutting off the WHO. He clearly wants to make sure we have no systems in place for the next time.

MAGA: 27K dead is good,  but we can do so much more.


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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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koods said:
The only person in the world saying they had the virus under control in February was Donald Trump.


Watch my previous video, oh great king of make believe.


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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
He shut down our own pandemic unit months ago.


That was a huge mistake, wasn't it?  Though it was years ago.


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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Yeah, and defunding the WHO is another one. Regardless of how good/poor the WHO's response has been, today is not the time to defund.  Maybe there are changes that are necessary.  Maybe the U.S. shouldn't ultimately be funding the WHO.  Maybe we need our own better system.  All of these issues can and should be addressed down the road.  Right now, we need every boot on the ground, and we've just alienated all of WHO's boots. 

Now is not the time to save a buck.  I'm really kinda surprised that you'd ever back this move during a crisis like this.


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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Exactly.  That's why he's defunding the WHO.


koods said:
Who cares if they objected to the ban. Who cares when they declared it a pandemic....


Exactly.  That's why he's defunding the WHO.


Because they suggested a strategy and he didn’t follow it. So they get defunded. During a pandemic.

I have no idea why I continue to engage your totally moronic arguments.


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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
Yeah, and defunding the WHO is another one. Regardless of how good/poor the WHO's response has been, today is not the time to defund.  Maybe there are changes that are necessary.  Maybe the U.S. shouldn't ultimately be funding the WHO.  Maybe we need our own better system.  All of these issues can and should be addressed down the road.  Right now, we need every boot on the ground, and we've just alienated all of WHO's boots. 

Now is not the time to save a buck.  I'm really kinda surprised that you'd ever back this move during a crisis like this.


Because biden is the nominee, he’s a trump lackey now.


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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
Yeah, and defunding the WHO is another one. Regardless of how good/poor the WHO's response has been, today is not the time to defund.  Maybe there are changes that are necessary.  Maybe the U.S. shouldn't ultimately be funding the WHO.  Maybe we need our own better system.  All of these issues can and should be addressed down the road.  Right now, we need every boot on the ground, and we've just alienated all of WHO's boots. 

Now is not the time to save a buck.  I'm really kinda surprised that you'd ever back this move during a crisis like this.


I'm not backing Trump on this.  I think it was a terrible move.

Edit:  My original point was that Trump did at least what the WHO recommended, but their recommendation came too late.


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Edited by Falcon91Wolvrn03 (04/16/20 09:05 AM)

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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Seriously. The US had more time to prepare, and we have still ended up fucked harder than any other country. 5% of the population and 35% of the cases.


You omit to mention that you;re one of the richest, most technoogically and medically advanced countries too.


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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
feldman114 said:
But they give the whole world identical info. Why did other countries do so much better?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jacquelyncorley/2020/04/10/us-government-response-to-covid-19-was-slow-but-how-does-it-compare-to-other-countries/


1/3 of all US coronavirus cases are in New York.  Bill de Blasio didn't do a very good job there.




Not to mention that new York has upwards of 60 million visitors a year, of course new york ( the United states) got hit hard. Even while the new york health commissioner was urging people to not believe the racist fake news about corona virus, saying there was no reason to avoid neighborhoods andwas encouraging everyone to participate in the Chinese new years celebrations:lol:  :crazy2:

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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
Before it's all over, the continent of Africa will suffer far more devastation than the U.S.



True, but also:


Quote:
Sixty percent of Africa's 1.25 billion people are under age 25—the youngest population in the world



It will be complete carnage there but the vast majority are way too young to be very likely to get seriously sick by it.


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