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Psilocybe pronounciation (Stamets)
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Hi team,

Paul Stamets (and therefore Michael Polan) pronounces "psilocybe" like sil-LOSS-a-bee, but that doesn't seem to make sense given that the active compound "psilocybin" is pronounced sil-oh-SYYY-bin. So I had always assumed that the genus name was similar i.e. SIL-oh-sybe.

Got any thoughts/sources? And if you'd like to vote, we can see what portion if this community uses which.
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Re: Psilocybe pronounciation (Stamets) [Re: veryverycold]
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I use the latter. But its latin so who really knows. Either way you say it most peole know what your talking about


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Re: Psilocybe pronounciation (Stamets) [Re: bloodycarcass]
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Stamets is correct.  It's the first. 

Pronounced the same way for Conocybe, Inocybe, Hygrocybe, colonoscopy, etc.

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Re: Psilocybe pronounciation (Stamets) [Re: bloodycarcass]
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Just use whatever pronunciation you like, I'm sure most people will know what you are talking about anyway. Unless you are fluent in Latin it would be almost impossible to know how to pronounce the name of each individual mushroom correctly anyway. Sil-loss-a-bee is in fact the correct pronunciation, but when referring to Clitocybe you should probably use the correct pronunciation, Clit-oss-a-bee, otherwise it sounds a bit naughty! :lol:


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Re: Psilocybe pronounciation (Stamets) [Re: Duggstar]
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I usually pronounce the -cybe species like I would pronounce the word philosophy.


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Re: Psilocybe pronounciation (Stamets) [Re: Anglerfish]
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Anglerfish said:
I usually pronounce the -cybe species like I would pronounce the word philosophy.


That's interesting. Just out of curiosity, is that because that is the way words ending cybe are pronounced in Norwegian? Because in English words with ph in them are normally pronounced with an f sound, so I'm not sure where you're getting the f sound from. :shrug:


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Re: Psilocybe pronounciation (Stamets) [Re: Duggstar]
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This is a great post for a newbie like me.  I'd always felt certain that I was looking for "SILL-oh-sybe... sy-an-es-sens" but then I watched a youtube where Stamets says Sil-LOSS-a-bee. 

Similarly, I've been telling people that the honey bee on their shirt is "APE-iss melifera".... but I think it's really "APIS melifera."  Can life get any more complicated??  :confused:

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Re: Psilocybe pronounciation (Stamets) [Re: Grosbeak]
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It was always sill o sibe. I'm sticking to that they have an idea but no one knows what Latin sounded like.

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Re: Psilocybe pronounciation (Stamets) [Re: bloodycarcass]
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bloodycarcass said:
I use the latter. But its latin so who really knows. Either way you say it most peole know what your talking about


not Latin - ancient Greek....
a medical dictionary has the pronunciation listed as Psilocybe - sī'lō-sī'bē , which represents SY-lo-SY-bee


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Disclaimer - I'm just a hobbyist and cannot absolutely guarantee any ID offered. I'm most familiar with the species found in the Pacific Northwest - those found in other parts of the world may vary considerably, so always do your own research to find out what grows in your area and what lookalikes you need to be aware of. Understand that many mushroom species cannot be 100% reliably identified by photographs alone, even by an expert, so it may not be possible to go beyond suggesting a probable genus.

Edited by Magic Badger (12/02/19 08:59 PM)

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Re: Psilocybe pronounciation (Stamets) [Re: Stosch]
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Actually, guys, this one is from Greek, not Latin.

Psilos means bald
Cybe means head

From the Greek, it means they're bald-headed.

As far as pronouncing it, all of the mycology PhDs (from the US) I know pronounce it sigh-loss-uh-bee, with the emphasis on the second syllable (loss). The ones trained in other countries pronounce a lot of mushroom names is ways that are really weird sounding to us.

Since psilocybin and psilocin are named after the genus, they should probably be pronounced in a similar way, but the MDs all seem to pronounce it sill-oh-sigh-bin.

Oh, well...


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Re: Psilocybe pronounciation (Stamets) [Re: ToxicMan]
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One of my former bosses (a chemist) pronounced psilocybin as sil-LOSS-a-bin, so that fits with how mycologists tend to pronounce Psilocybe as sil-LOSS-a-bee.

But it's latin, so it doesn't really matter.

Oh, I see it's Greek. Maybe it does matter then, but either way people will know what you mean.

Edited by breeg89 (12/02/19 10:14 PM)

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Re: Psilocybe pronounciation (Stamets) [Re: breeg89]
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i stand corrected. Learn something new every day.

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Re: Psilocybe pronounciation (Stamets) [Re: Duggstar]
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Duggstar said:
Anglerfish said:
I usually pronounce the -cybe species like I would pronounce the word philosophy.


That's interesting. Just out of curiosity, is that because that is the way words ending cybe are pronounced in Norwegian? Because in English words with ph in them are normally pronounced with an f sound, so I'm not sure where you're getting the f sound from. :shrug:


I'm talking about the intonation of the syllables, thus I'd intonate 'psilocybe' as I would 'philosophy'.


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Re: Psilocybe pronounciation (Stamets) [Re: Anglerfish]
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They are both very wrong, the P is not silent!! It is a Greek root word, but the genus name itself is written in, and therefore follows the rules of Scientific Latin. I recorded a bunch of names for the site here several years ago, I think they are still there in species' descriptions.. The pronounciations may have my accent, but the sillables are pronounced according to Latin rules.

P.S. the first one is horribly wrong, while the second is only slightly wrong, add a P in front, and replace that last s sound with a c, and that's pretty much it.

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Re: Psilocybe pronounciation (Stamets) [Re: Tangich]
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Tangich said:
They are both very wrong, the P is not silent!! It is a Greek root word, but the genus name itself is written in, and therefore follows the rules of Scientific Latin. I recorded a bunch of names for the site here several years ago, I think they are still there in species' descriptions.. The pronounciations may have my accent, but the sillables are pronounced according to Latin rules.


In Norwegian we pronounce the 'p' in 'psilocybe', as we do in 'psathyrella' or 'pseudogracilis'.

It's typical of those lazy English speaking people to modify original words to fit their use.
Like 'Naples', 'Vienna', 'Lisbon'...


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Re: Psilocybe pronounciation (Stamets) [Re: Anglerfish]
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Anglerfish said:
It's typical of those lazy English speaking people to modify original words to fit their use.



This seems to be endemic to American speakers, most British scientists pronounce Latin properly, in fact, most private schools and universities teach Latin, and it seems that many highly educated people know Latin, not just how to pronounce it, but actually SPEAK it.

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Re: Psilocybe pronounciation (Stamets) [Re: Tangich]
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wacky shiitake would work if we can get everyone to agree on how shiitake should be pronounced

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Re: Psilocybe pronounciation (Stamets) [Re: JesusOnAdderall]
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Potatoe potata it's regional pronunciation and it could be argued either way until the cows come home, but we all still get the gist of it. :shrug:


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Re: Psilocybe pronounciation (Stamets) [Re: JesusOnAdderall]
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Shiitake is an easy one, since it's Japanese.

She-ee-talk-eh should be close enough.

As with all Japanese, there should be *no* emphasis on any syllable.


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Re: Psilocybe pronounciation (Stamets) [Re: Doc9151]
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Doc9151 said:
Potatoe potata it's regional pronunciation and it could be argued either way until the cows come home, but we all still get the gist of it. :shrug:


Im with you.  We know what you mean either way its said.


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