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Re: Reptilians on Shroomery [Re: DoneKildatReason]
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Continuing with a trend of Good nourishing meals (information), if you want to watch something that captures the imagination check out :
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3231564/
If want to go down a legit rabbit hole afterwards/during lookup the declass and information on it and the scientists involved. That being said, the show is stunningly accurate.

Big brained people playing with fire and advanced technology is the real story.
Ayys and greys are the distraction for plebs. It becomes popular when big distractions are needed.

Ruskies tend to epic mishaps when they play in labs : [embed=425,344]
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Things are about to get spicy in the world so you get bread and circuses for plebs...
It's a sideshow.


Real show real tech...

Then there's laser weapons technology... quantum physics based tech and space tech.
Likely has been brewing in labs for decades and now that its about to be seen on a world stage you get ayys and grays at least in the west.. In other parts of the world they just over-state their military tech. No ayys/greys in communist countries because of a top down structure that already locks down the plebs brain/rights/freedoms. In those place, you just do as you're told. Here, you get mental conditioning and psy-ops that do the lock downs.

So yeah, there it is.. no magic or ayys, just big brained people and budgets developing cutting edge tech that is kept under wraps for sensible reasons. Same as it always has been

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Re: Reptilians on Shroomery [Re: r00tcmplx] * 2
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No one is talking about a test site here but that's for the irrelevant opinion,
I can tell your spirituality is purely political so you're never going to see much else. I and shaman have been saying all that needs to be said here, by the way you're exactly who we were talking about not the other way around.
The reason you see it all to be fake is because you're so blinded by your own government and political opinions and day to day news at 5 reality you've probably never even felt the need to connect to your own spirit let alone others, it takes connecting to yourself to see the outside for what it is. You've unfortunately been unable to experience that because just like what its made for to keep you from, imagine a child instantly born into a whole universe of smart phones, tablets, TVs,internet all that shit when not even that long ago only cable TV radio and actual phones existed. Think about how much worse its going yo be for the Kidd that grow up in this shit to connect to actual, earthly reality?
By the way I feel bad for you if you think a 5 year old is retarded. They would sound retarded to dumb adults like you because unlike you with your millions of opinions on whether you should vote for one lizard or the other the child probably is sitting there not giving a fuck about it because they're smart, and connected to a plane naturally that we all forget. Staying connected to that plane is the key but all this shit they have for us to do, see , experience, learn, takes it all away. Its not because we get taller that we get dumber its because we actually learn more and more, making us dumber. Who is the one that claims a kid is dumb just for being a kid, and why would that be? Because they "haven't learned" Learned what? About our fucking leaders or something and how to appreciate and give back your whole life to them in which they already rule? Fucking college and jobs and shit. Imagine if we weren't forced to do that to make a "living" for our supposed "selves"
The point is kids are not stupid, you're too stupid to be a kid anymore.


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Re: Reptilians on Shroomery [Re: mysticalmagickal]
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mysticalmagickal said:
No one is talking about a test site here but that's for the irrelevant opinion,




Actually, someone specifically inquired about a character directly associated with it which is why I, in addition to answering their direct question went on to elaborate about what the test sites were actually used for as opposed to brain dead conspiracy surrounding Ayyys. So, its on topic. I also directly commented on the foolish nonsense about reptilian ayys.

mysticalmagickal said:
I can tell your spirituality is purely political so you're never going to see much else.




I see the truth which can be reasoned through and the arrived at. I have theories about various things but when they can be easily dispelled or proven wrong I let them go.

mysticalmagickal said:
I and shaman have been saying all that needs to be said here, by the way you're exactly who we were talking about not the other way around.




I'm an reptilian Ayyy now?
BRUH
:bashful:
Kinda flattered.. not offended.

mysticalmagickal said:
The reason you see it all to be fake is because you're so blinded by your own government




You're falling for a classic psy-op the govt. created and I am blind for pointing it out?
:loldongs: Fuuhhhhhhg dude

mysticalmagickal said:
and political opinions and day to day news at 5 reality you've probably never even felt the need to connect to your own spirit let alone others, it takes connecting to yourself to see the outside for what it is.




Please connect me to where I stated anything political. I don't have cable and I don't watch TV. I don't watch trash media either. I consume documentaries and educational material most of all. I am quite spiritual and connected with it more than you could ever imagine. Suffice to say that has nothing to do w/ easily dispelling foolishness.

mysticalmagickal said:
You've unfortunately been unable to experience that because just like what its made for to keep you from, imagine a child instantly born into a whole universe of smart phones, tablets, TVs,internet all that shit when not even that long ago only cable TV radio and actual phones existed. Think about how much worse its going yo be for the Kidd that grow up in this shit to connect to actual, earthly reality?




Is this boomer talk or something? I was born into the information age. I used it to cultivate my mind by immersing myself in science, history of the human species and every informational topic I could get my hands on. Prior, it would be a scholars dream to have such a library. The closest equivalent is something 10^8 time smaller found in library of Alexandria. I wasted no time on this crown jewel and spend time daily coming to higher understanding. What in the world do that have to do w/ the average dog food eating American who craims their head fill w/ junk like Ayys and greys. Are you kidding yourself right now? You really think you're on to some out of this world understanding w/ this?


mysticalmagickal said:
By the way I feel bad for you if you think a 5 year old is retarded. They would sound retarded to dumb adults like you because unlike you with your millions of opinions on whether you should vote for one lizard or the other the child probably is sitting there not giving a fuck about it because they're smart, and connected to a plane naturally that we all forget. Staying connected to that plane is the key but all this shit they have for us to do, see , experience, learn, takes it all away. Its not because we get taller that we get dumber its because we actually learn more and more, making us dumber. Who is the one that claims a kid is dumb just for being a kid, and why would that be?




Indicating that 5 year olds have incredible and childish imaginations and uninformed mentalities isn't calling a 5 year old retarded. Furthermore, being a grown adult and having the mentality of a 5 year old is nothing to be proud of. There isn't a magical plane just a blank slate friendo... on your brain is constantly attempting to  'fill in the gaps'. If you're not consuming dog food, as you get older, your brain has been cultivated and learned on grounding truths which thus limits how much power it exhausts filling in blanks with foolishness like ayys and greys. However, if all you're doing with your free time is believing in magic and space lizards, then your brain is going to try to wedge everything into that tiny little framing... and the you actually start believing this painted picture in your mind is reality when its not.

mysticalmagickal said:
Because they "haven't learned" Learned what?




The truth about reality. That santa clause and the tooth fairy don't exist. They were just clever lies your parents told you.

mysticalmagickal said:
About our fucking leaders or something and how to appreciate and give back your whole life to them in which they already rule? Fucking college and jobs and shit. Imagine if we weren't forced to do that to make a "living" for our supposed "selves"




The thing about wondering around in the wilderness thinking you got it all figured out while abandoning the 10s of thousands of years of learned lessons from others is that, yeah you could find some "magical" truth that no one else has.. but 99.9999% of the people who do this without grounding get lost as it seems the ayyy believers have.

mysticalmagickal said:
The point is kids are not stupid, you're too stupid to be a kid anymore.



Kids aren't stupid but they have mentalities that are ill-formed and uninformed. I am too aware of the universe to waste a ton of brain cycles on being a 'kid' (ill-formed and uninformed). I only tap into this brain state when I need to be creative and imaginative and boy do I have quite a gift at that. When you cultivate this connection and actually create works of 'magic' as you seem to want to call me (lizard dude), you don't believe in ayys/greys I guess.. because the things you craft are Ayyy/lizard like.






> muh toroids and ayys
Where's the ayys my dude? Nothing but big brained people applying their inner child to the unimaginable.

Meanwhile, here's the equivalent dog food Ayyy material :

WE WUZ SPACE ALIEN LIZARD AND CHIT USING TOROIDAL CONTAINMENT FIELDS.
WE WUZ AREA 51 Reverse engineers
:canthelpbutlaugh:

Psy-op'd by govt. and don't even know it.
Hat tip to these guys.

Truth is stranger than fiction but you gotta have a cultivated mind to see it.

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Re: Reptilians on Shroomery [Re: r00tcmplx]
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I think your perspective is a bit dismissive of many many people's experiences with these entities, unless you think they are literally all bullshitting or making it up. Truth IS a lot stranger than fiction, but you're actually downplaying so many aspects of what we are all talking about here. Psy-ops are definitely at play, 100%, but that is not to say they aren't preparing the masses for a guided disclosure that allows for people to trust government programs they shouldn't trust, or even entities that don't have our best interest in mind. It's funny you claim that no one has all the answers (they don't), but you yourself act like your addressing all of the aspects and angles of the situation while being dismissive and arrogant about people who you seem to think are more stupid than you.

You're actually using the same logic that flat earthers have.

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Re: Reptilians on Shroomery [Re: LittleDipster]
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LittleDipster said:
I think your perspective is a bit dismissive of many many people's experiences with these entities, unless you think they are literally all bullshitting or making it up.




#1 cause is drugs. It alters your perspective and if you aren't grounded it will send your mind and thinking into no man's land
#2 Psychological issues..
#3 Is intelligence level.. and foolishness

Your brain is capable of amazing things and vivid imaginations.
Drugs as is the nature of this forum can accelerate that beyond your wildest conception. Psychological issues can too.. The two even sometimes merge.

3rd : Intelligence level. A very intelligent grounded person will have a completely different interpretation of something than a person who is not. One person will see the logical/rational and real nature of a thing and another goes by their limited understanding and comes up with things that aren't there.. I meant what I said about filling gaps.

There are no other answers when you're completely off from reality. It's all in your head and what's in your head could be :
1.) Drugs
2.) psychological issues
3.) A lack of intelligence and foolishness

If you want to give a sound rational counter to this proposal or augment it, have at it, but please do not even think of inserting some ridiculous unsupported theory from the other side of the universe. Everyone can do that. I can do so right now :
> Dude its some big eyed grey person using quantum superposition to construct in my minds eye the reality that is veiled by the shadow realm we live in.

Anyone can pull garbage out of their behinds... Doesn't make it reality. As for the quantity of people doing so, depends on your sample. If you're talking among of people centered on psychedelics, what do you expect? Some people can't even navigate the world intelligently and you expect better results when given an unadultured trip through their internal mind? If you're asking a serious question about the scientific nature of what it does to your brain and why the experience is the same, state that.. but please don't try to sit here and validate foolishness. You either lack the intelligence to spot it or you fit in camps 1/2.

LittleDipster said:
Truth IS a lot stranger than fiction, but you're actually downplaying so many aspects of what we are all talking about here.




It is and to grasp at the depth of truth at what some want to be the 'mystical' realm takes lots of education, searching, intelligence, humility, self-sacrifice, BEING wrong and admitting you're wrong, and lots of other things few really commit themselves to. NAMELY because they are so committed to the lies and fiction they hang their world on and are addicted to such as a completely unsupported nonsensical tale of ayys. OP admitted in a post he was sort of mental. So, you really have to ask yourself what is wrong with you if you actually think there's some legitimacy behind what is being stated.

LittleDipster said:
Psy-ops are definitely at play, 100%,




THEY WERE AT PLAY FROM THE 30's-80's when they were working on nuclear technology, military, and weapons technology out in the desert and needed a fantastical narrative to capture the populous :
World War 2
Dates: Sep 1, 1939 – Sep 2, 1945
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterrestrials_in_fiction
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_alien_abduction_claims

History of alien abduction claims describes assertions or claims that people have experienced alien abduction. Such claims came to international prominence in the 1950s and 1960s,  but some researchers argue abduction narratives can be traced to decades earlier.

Decades earlier? is world war 2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_Project
Start date: 1939
Completed: December 31, 1946
Period: 1939 – 1946

HELLO? Anyone home?

LittleDipster said:
but that is not to say they aren't preparing the masses for a guided disclosure that allows for people to trust government programs they shouldn't trust




A distraction is a distraction. If it worked back then and dumb Americans have become enamored with the past to a retarded extent, why not do a rerun? Isn't that what hollywood is doing? Companies have data on everyone's habits, they know in real time what is trending and capitalize on it. Meanwhile, it seems those not forming intelligence or born a generation too soon before this technology was created think there's some grand conspiracy going on? That they're about to be told about some esoteric secret? LOL, no man.. companies just parrot idiocy and know that's what the avg. american wants to here. If people are wound up in idiocy and doing their regular 9-5's, you're right where powerful people want you..

Why waste extra resources on a new narrative when you can dust off an old script, put it on the big screen and cash in on people's collective stupidity? What disclosure are you talking about? You really believe there's some grey big eyed aliens that have visited earth?
:mushroom2: WOW

LittleDipster said:
, or even entities that don't have our best interest in mind.




and there it is

LittleDipster said:
It's funny you claim that no one has all the answers (they don't), but you yourself act like your addressing all of the aspects and angles of the situation while being dismissive and arrogant about people who you seem to think are more stupid than you.

You're actually using the same logic that flat earthers have.



Prove me wrong. If you can't, you're wrong or need to do more research so you have a confident level of support that you can counter with. Anyway, I'm done. People chose to believe what they want. That much is clear. That's the gift of free-will and that big brain you have upstairs. You can create all sorts of fantasies and live in it. People don't like being wrong and they'll outright fight things that contradict their world view and narratives they've sold themselves on. It's the mind's way of preventing destructive collapse via mental breaks. That reptilian self preservation throws a signal and tells the higher brain to defend its mental position at whatever cost even to the point of delusion. And that creative ass neocortex jumps into action. This much I know. And there's not a dam thing any outside force can do. So, Enjoy that inner world.

I have work to do in reality. This site has brought me a wealth of ideas when I needed them and I thank select users for that. But with the general climate and nature of the world being so in the pits, people are off in lala land now. Academics are disjointed. Scientists.. philosophers... the lay.. all the way down to the ayy believers.

Disclosures coming? More like technological breakthroughs that will nullify 1000s of years of bullshit beliefs and most bullshit found in the world. Likely going to cause lots of disruption in society and the world, so the dogfood has been brought out for the masses. Enjoy the meal and fantasy while it lasts.

Oh and before I forget.. fair warning : doing stupid things and being stupid with your free-will is gonna cost you alot more in the technological world that is to come. So you might want to get it together .. Soon

> Muh ayyys
Yeah the ayys are coming .. just you wait
A blinding light to shed and shatter the stupidity of the world.

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Re: Reptilians on Shroomery [Re: r00tcmplx]
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Lol I'm agreeing with a lot of what you say..I'm not going to attempt to pick apart every sentence of your reply like you do, it comes off as a bit ridiculous and condescending. Your ego is obviously well defined by your belief system. Before you go telling me what MY beliefs are, why don't you do some of your own research on people that do not use drugs, or have been given tests and hypnotherapy to recall abductions. That's all a psy-op too? I'm simply saying there's interesting information out there that seems to counter your limited perspective on the matter.

You're on the right track with the psy-ops I think but seem to have missed what they seem to be leading up to.

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Re: Reptilians on Shroomery [Re: LittleDipster]
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LittleDipster said:
Lol I'm agreeing with a lot of what you say..




Then why do you keep fishing for a way out in order to maintain an obviously flawed belief. To keep some sliver of hope that there's some validity to something that is so obviously foolishness?

LittleDipster said:
I'm not going to attempt to pick apart every sentence of your reply like you do, it comes off as a bit ridiculous and condescending.




This is what science/logic/rationale look like. Devoid of emotions.
You post a reply and you get a solid one in return on topic and pertinent to your commentary line by line.

LittleDipster said:
Your ego is obviously well defined by your belief system.




An intelligent/knowledgeable/wisdom filled person's ego is minimal. It is instead replaced by a higher order understanding which bleeds away the personal 'GRIP' the ego likes to maintain. Those who are unfamiliar mistake such a person as arrogant when they moreso are an invisible conduit for higher constructed truths. If you find yourself having great conflict with such types just you wait until aforementioned technology is front and center in the coming years. Reality will be stranger than fiction for some.

LittleDipster said:
Before you go telling me what MY beliefs are,




You're stating them and I am replying to them.

LittleDipster said:
why don't you do some of your own research on people that do not use drugs, or have been given tests and hypnotherapy to recall abductions.




First off.. Hypnotherapy is bullshit. Second off, knowing a great depth about the human brain, nothing surprises me or is mystical about the diversity of machinations that crop up in people's brains that never have happened in the real physical world. I can make up a most convincing story myself on the spot for shits and giggles. Ultimately, if its not proven or sensical its false till otherwise. Nothing is going to change until it changes and that's why I said what I said towards the end.

LittleDipster said:
That's all a psy-op too? I'm simply saying there's interesting information out there that seems to counter your limited perspective on the matter.




I've given you enough. Believe what you want. It changes nothing... and that's how reality works. You can believe whatever you want, if its not real, it changes nothing. You clearly take a profound detailed truthful framing and consider it a 'limited perspective'. So, what more should I expect from spoon feeding you further. You want to believe in Ayys, well.. Soon when a technological break occurs which many will not have answers for.. from academics to scientists.. to lays.. to ayy believers, you're going to graft your own far out belief on it because you are to stubborn to embrace the more grounded truth and its not going to be a good time for you. So, as I said, you enjoy the ayy narrative. Call it an 'ayy' I guess... Some will call it lucifer.. Some dajjal... Some evil incarnate and so shall you be blinded to the truth at your own detriment. Many with understanding will be taken to the next level of understanding and primacy while the many foolish will be left behind maintaining their foolish inner world of beliefs.

LittleDipster said:
You're on the right track with the psy-ops I think but seem to have missed what they seem to be leading up to.



I already defined what it is leading up to... These kinds of things go over a person's head though when they dedicate so much brain power to psy-ops and false beliefs... which is why when it finally arrives your mind is blown.

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Re: Reptilians on Shroomery [Re: r00tcmplx]
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I don't even necessarily believe they're here or been here, I'm just open to the idea. That's why I told you to stop telling me what my beliefs were, it's really annoying, you're annoying. If you were doing this devoid of emotions you wouldn't be so defensive. Trust me, when whatever "breakthrough" OR disclosure happens, I won't be surprised, and it won't shatter my belief system, because I don't really have one. It really works well to entertain ideas without fully believing them. You on the other hand, obviously do, and it seems like people like you will be the ones to come up with some sort of far fetched idea in the face of a reality that doesn't coincide with the one you've made up in your head.

I would not be surprised if what you're saying is on point, I'm just calling you out for being dismissive and arrogant. You don't have all the answers.

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Re: Reptilians on Shroomery [Re: LittleDipster]
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LittleDipster said:
I don't even necessarily believe they're here or been here, I'm just open to the idea. That's why I told you to stop telling me what my beliefs were, it's really annoying, you're annoying. If you were doing this devoid of emotions you wouldn't be so defensive. Trust me, when whatever "breakthrough" OR disclosure happens, I won't be surprised, and it won't shatter my belief system, because I don't really have one. It really works well to entertain ideas without fully believing them. You on the other hand, obviously do, and it seems like people like you will be the ones to come up with some sort of far fetched idea in the face of a reality that doesn't coincide with the one you've made up in your head.

I would not be surprised if what you're saying is on point, I'm just calling you out for being dismissive and arrogant. You don't have all the answers.



I believe there are engineers far more advanced than the human species that construct different portions of the galaxy. That's why you seem to be marring the discussion by not being direct. Everything I defined is grounded and sensible. If you disagree, provide supporting counters. Your belief isn't a counter.

LittleDipster said:
it's really annoying, you're annoying




Be a person who is direct then. Nothing you've put forth as potential counters are actually
counters. Yet, you keep differing to one after the other.. Hypnosis was the last straw you tried to pull... Hypnosis is bs, you should already know this. Most of what has been presented is bs.

LittleDipster said:
If you were doing this devoid of emotions you wouldn't be so defensive.




The truth is refined in a crucible. You put fire to beliefs and vet them.. What remains is something that is potentially more truthful. To this you ascribe human emotions? What's going on with your brain?

LittleDipster said:
Trust me, when whatever "breakthrough" OR disclosure happens, I won't be surprised, and it won't shatter my belief system, because I don't really have one.




Then what are you going on about? Random stuff you just happened to hear? Just spitballing things on the wall?

LittleDipster said:
It really works well to entertain ideas without fully believing them.




It really helps to pull up your sleeve and actually do the harder work to vet ideas and establish sensible truths which many don't seem to want to do but want to go on personal crusades against those that do and spoon feed them the details... apparently.

LittleDipster said:
You on the other hand, obviously do, and it seems like people like you will be the ones to come up with some sort of far fetched idea in the face of a reality that doesn't coincide with the one you've made up in your head.




Such is your belief and so thus you graft it on the things you fail to understand.
I think i'm done. It's 2019 after-all, if you really cared about this subject and wanted the truth you'd have found it already on the limitless technological resource you're making this post on.

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Re: Reptilians on Shroomery [Re: r00tcmplx]
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r00tcmplx said:
I believe there are engineers far more advanced than the human species that construct different portions of the galaxy.





Now I'm listening. Care to point me on sources for this aside from test sites and nuclear fusion reactors? I'm aware of most of the info you've provided in this thread unless I've missed something, which is entirely possible, I jumped in a bit late. No need to be so hostile towards others you see as unintelligent. Unless you're unwilling as you see this as "spoon feeding" me information.

How could portions of the galaxy be engineered? I've read thoughts about our solar system being engineered, yes, but that's all they were. Also by saying they're far more advanced than human, are you saying they're alien? I'm not arguing with you, is the problem, I'm not countering anything you say because you have valid information. Your way of belittling concepts and ideas that are "low IQ" make you seem arrogant. That's all I was getting at.

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Re: Reptilians on Shroomery [Re: LittleDipster] * 1
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LittleDipster said:
Your way of belittling concepts and ideas that are "low IQ" make you seem arrogant. That's all I was getting at.



Sorry, However.. intelligence on matters of depth requires lots of hard work. It's easier to wade in the muddy waters. I am guilty of it myself and see patches of my own stubborn past self at times and I know the more succinct root cause for it. What I am trying to push past is this, maybe its easier by providing a far more 'mystical' alternative which captures the mind's eye. So, lets leave that behind us now that there is an acknowledged common and potentially
higher ground. As always, feel free to tear apart anything that you feel is ungrounded or that you don't believe.. try to provide supports or a string of inquiries if it doesn't jive that well with you. I welcome it. I hope many times to be dead as wrong and the person with a low IQ .. its at such points that there is the potential for me to learn from someone who knows more. I've learned to see beyond the emotions and grasp the potential of truth. I pretend I am not there and am an insignificant idiot all the time. But lets get back on topic.

LittleDipster said:
Now I'm listening.




:heytheresexy: Well then let's begin....

You requested :
LittleDipster said:
Care to point me on sources for this aside from test sites and nuclear fusion reactors?
How could portions of the galaxy be engineered? I've read thoughts about our solar system being engineered, yes, but that's all they were. Also by saying they're far more advanced than human, are you saying they're alien?



I will try ot work along that. First question :
LittleDipster said:
How could portions of the galaxy be engineered?




To constructively do this or the whole shebang (pun intended referring to big bang) you need isolation and conduits. The physics of the big bang is an isolation event as is the concept we know as time. Why/How? An 'explosion' of sorts created from a state or energy point allows one to dictate an irreversible(more energy would be required than the initial state energy to reverse it) start and the structure of it would dictate a predictable middle and final end.  That being said, I don't subscribe to finality. I feel as though our concept of a 'universe' has a cyclical nature. These are theories ofc, they could be wrong. However, all things point to it as scientific understanding progresses. Pertinent concepts:

Arrow of time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_of_time (let me know if you need me to provide the link and explanation on how this fits above)

Evolution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution (at the most basic level, even down to the composition of planets, you see it.. at the atomic level.. genetic .. its everywhere. There is structure in it and that structure progresses with time).. This is one of the tell-tale signs of an engineered plan. Chaos is equally potential and yet there is order to things at the largest scale and smallest.

Non-uninform and chaotic laws of physics
You don't see it... time doesn't chaotically go back in forth.. Space doesn't randomly warp. Gravity doesn't randomly change. Things are consistent .. The 'formula' stays the same for certain things. This is what I refer to as a 'system constant' and the mark of an engineered system. The equivalent in a coding paradigm : https://www.webopedia.com/TERM/C/constant.html

Light
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_cone
Tons of things are premised on this and limited by it. If one were to design a system that they wanted to be unhackable they'd define a system that has to adhere to system constants and physical laws and make a physical phenomenon that limits certain things certain access. Our universe works this way. We can't for instance even see how it began because of the speed of light and nature of the arrow of time.. We can't see back to the big bang because the light 'evidence' is too far away and we can't physically travel that far without 'burning' up to see it for ourselves and light can never re-reach that point.

So that's the universe n a cliff-notes form. Galaxies work the same way but on a smaller scale and so on and so forth. Our planet even w/ gravity having kept us here until we learned how to overcome it. This fits with an engineer(s) with goals set along time. It could have been equally allowable for us to be 'born into' the state we will evolve into 100,000 years from now yet here we are. So, you ask the question why? And again and again for such successions you arrive at 'purpose'/intent.. something which points to a creator/engineer and something we obviously haven't grasped but haven't given system design been given access to yet.

Cycles
They're everywhere at every scale even reflected in our human nature. Galaxies are born and then die and this repeats over billions of years.. Plants are.. life is.. atoms are.. etc etc. Matter s recycled constantly and forged anew.

Essentially look at and grasp the structure of ALL things and you start to see the 'hidden hand' that clearly shaped it. My cosmic view align with 'Grand cyclical theory'.. basically this same recycling at the highest level and lowest... as above so below :
https://physicsworld.com/a/cyclic-universe-could-explain-cosmological-constant/

Search the debts of your mind and it starts to make sense if you too (having the marks of your maker) how you would go about it similarly.

LittleDipster said:
Also by saying they're far more advanced than human, are you saying they're alien?



Not in the popularized muddy water way which is why I draw straw to it. I dont do so to take a dump on things but moreso to point to the far more mystical and impressive reality that you see in everything. Its the structure and design of all things.. the repetition of the same patterns and natures that show you all you need to see. You just need to focus on it.

And hey man, religion is no more than a more humanistic framing of things along history... science/philosophy/religion/etc are tools we use to keep chipping away at this blurry picture we all feel inside of us and feel around us. I guess in my pursuit of the ultimate answer with utmost ferver, i forget that not everyone has that passion. So, I am constantly attacking myself and my views to put them through a crucible. Exchanging out ideas/theories often for higher ones and understanding and I sometimes forget not even enjoys this and such a ruthless crucible can seem negative or like an attack... But its just me feverishly ruling out things as I do in my own head. But yeah, what I defined above is a basic primer on the rough framing of things I have in mind. I chip away and attack many parts of it myself so am fine with others doing so.. I'm after the best truth that can be forged after-all.

So, now if you want to bring this full circle and make the claim of various degrees of engineers with different authority/power/etc... far above our potential being out there..  What I ask a person to stop and think about is : If they indeed are that more advanced .. "light years" beyond us, why would they need to come here? They could tap into the very 'ether' between things .. Hot off the presses :
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/10/astronomers-map-galaxy-feeding-hydrogen-filaments-first-time

The popularized concept framed : https://phys.org/news/2014-11-filamentary-galaxies-evolve-cosmic-web.html

We already have developed satellites and telescopes that capture distant light. Think of tapping into material even far more advanced than light ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_channel

The bands of connectivity you don't see.. Every good engineer establishes them for a system.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-band_data
Don't you think advanced engineers capable of structuring what you see around you put some special things out of band that you can't tap into this without special access? Look at what we do as humans as modeled after our creator... It's right there in front of you.. the truth we progressively instantiate for ourselves.

It's right there in front of you and clearly present... So, this is the science and rational reasoning of things in a nutshell. Could you imagine dumping this on the plate of the average person. It would worry and hurt their mind and world view. So, you get a muddy watered down version. Things are humanized and personalized and brought down to things you can understand... religion has done this for all of history. Occult/mystic groups met in secret to have intellectual exchanges without concerning the public.. But its just us regular humans trying to find answers.. no magic. no ayys.

So, are there special human beings w/ special powers? No solid evidence supports this.
Do the elite have magic powers? No.. just greedy idiots for the most part.
Do leaders of nations? Nope.. most are idiots lusting after power.
They tend to have money and power and with that you can buy pretty impressive minds and get them to make you stuff.

Scientists know a great deal.. and engineers who construct things.
Most others don't know jack-all... So, if one were seeking to muddy waters they'd get you to a point where you look the least at the science/engineering and the most at the human experience... some grey thing coming down taking you into a ship and probing you... as opposed to a out-of-band direct sync into your brain that requires no physical presence.

No one in the past had magic powers... alien technology... Just like now, what you read about of this form are muddied tales for the commoners. The same cycle repeats over and over until 1000s of years later the obvious scientific truth proves it silly.. Why do things always seem to be 'progressive'.. constructively getting more advanced? Just a coincidence or an engineered design.

So here we are. You must delve into it .. what do scientists know and have figured out? Our progress as well as the universe has been bounded by time and a clear progression. You look back as far as you can see and its been quite the slow slog....  Nothing spoopy happening that can't be eventually explained . Technological leaps come by way of big brained scientists and engineers.. Its been this way forever. How do these big brains achieve this mystical knowledge? Well, by staring deeply into the design/structure of all things ofc and seeing what the "engineers" put forth and molding it anew.

Some incredible technology is on the horizon as you will see soon but don't believe it came from some alien form or other foolishness.. thats the muddy water. No, instead, someone .. some people have been staring at a thing long and hard for some time and came to see a thing that was once engineered and as we do so much as a part of our purpose is mimic and recreate that which our creator has done for us .. and so thus goes the cyclical nature of things above and below. 100 years from now we'll know.. 1000 even more and pretty soon we'll have the power, technology, understanding of 'ayys'... but its just us here.. working hard as likely planned to eventually come to 'see the light' sort to speak. It's quite an amazing perspective and presence of mind .. one that urges you to explore and build.

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Reason for deletion: my phone is loading everything terribly this morning, so I'm going to leave here for today to avoid fucking up threads until I can get to my Mac.


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Now you're getting into the stuff I'm really interested in. Broader theories of everything and such, involving concepts regarding physics and our universe. I'm glad I asked that question.

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To constructively do this or the whole shebang (pun intended referring to big bang) you need isolation and conduits. The physics of the big bang is an isolation event as is the concept we know as time. Why/How? An 'explosion' of sorts created from a state or energy point allows one to dictate an irreversible(more energy would be required than the initial state energy to reverse it) start and the structure of it would dictate a predictable middle and final end.  That being said, I don't subscribe to finality. I feel as though our concept of a 'universe' has a cyclical nature.



I can mostly agree with this, however I'm not too sure if it is necessarily cyclical in nature, at least the PHYSICAL universe, I will try to delve more into my thoughts on this later in my reply. There is a lot of evidence that stars will eventually burn out, black holes will eventually evaporate due to hawking radiation, and there will be nothing left, at least in our observable universe. There are also theories that the universe will end by a "big rip" where eventually dark energy will overcome all the other cosmic forces, tearing galaxies, then planets, then even molecules and atoms apart. This is not known yet however. There are definitely theories that jive more with what you are saying though, but dark energy and the expansion of the universe kind of point things in a different direction. I do believe this is only true from our perspective in time, though. It is  the forces of our universe are 'tuned' so well as they allow for the formation of matter, DNA, and consciousness. I theorize that (if not infinite), then it is close to an infinite amount of different universes were "formed" at the big bang, all with different 'tunings' and qualities of forces. Ours split off almost instantly from the others, as time as we perceive it formed. From our perspective inside of time, we can only see that ours arose from a singularity, that did not have "time". It is like we are in an isolated bubble, however with things like the cosmic microwave background, we can see the universe as it was very early and hot still. A lot of physicists think the early quantum fluctuations are what actually gave rise to matter and then galaxies and the universe as we know it, so I think it's possible that these fluctuations are what allowed for our "bubble" to form.

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Cycles
They're everywhere at every scale even reflected in our human nature. Galaxies are born and then die and this repeats over billions of years.. Plants are.. life is.. atoms are.. etc etc. Matter s recycled constantly and forged anew.

Essentially look at and grasp the structure of ALL things and you start to see the 'hidden hand' that clearly shaped it. My cosmic view align with 'Grand cyclical theory'.. basically this same recycling at the highest level and lowest... as above so below



Yes I definitely agree, you have a great way of seeing things. I call these fractal expressions, and it points to an all encompassing "geometry" of everything, I see it as a multidimensional fingerprint of sorts.

Where we will most likely disagree, and is mostly just a theory I play around with in my head, is that I think consciousness itself is a cosmic property, it essentially created a virtual "dimension" inside our our physical universe. Consciousness itself is not a physical phenomenon. It may emerge out of it, and most likely needs matter, a nervous system etc. but exactly what it is, is yet to be understood fully. I think that it's possible that our universe contains consciousness because consciousness is what created it. I imagine the singularity before the big bang having infinite POTENTIAL, containing the infinite number of possibilities, which could possibly allow for consciousness to form inside of it, however this is still thinking in the perspective of linear time. It would have always been a potentiality inside of the singularity, and I think this is why our universe contains the 'tunings' that it has, it manifested itself, and the fractal expressions of that are all around us, similar to the fact that the filaments that bind galactic clusters together resemble a neural network. This is only an idea I play around with in my head though.

Have you watched any lectures from Leonard Susskind? He is perhaps my favorite physicist. His concept of a holographic universe is awesome, and I think that consciousness itself could be holographic as well. This is what can allow people to have experiences like OBE's, NDE's, and mysterious things like living other lives while in a coma. It's also what can allow people to experience "everything" during a true ego death experience. If you look into these things, they are certainly mysterious and should not be so easily dismissed. The mind is certainly extremely powerful, but these reports are sometimes by very grounded and scientific thinking people, and they experience things that they should have like in NDE's where people have no brainwave activity and no pulse.  To sum up my interpretation, I think that we actually exist inside of the singularity, but inside of the dimension of time within it. We did not split off necessarily, but it appears that way from our perspective inside of it. I think consciousness is an intrinsic part of the singularity, and it allows itself to manifest in every form possible, including me and you.

Here are a few videos I think are relevant. The last few are very long, but interesting if you have some time to really spare.






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It may be a bit too hard for you to believe, but it was a DMT entity that showed me the holographic nature of consciousness and our universe, It literally showed me what consciousness was and how it was tuned through our DNA, similar to how our universe is tuned through its specific fundamental forces of nature. Everything is connected at the singularity, and projected outwards from that, giving us our universe and ourselves. This is how people can experience being one with everything and experience infinity. It seemed to crazy to be true at the time, but I then found the holographic principle from Leonard Susskind and it began to click. The part contains the whole. That is the nature of a holographic universe.

It could have very well been just me on drugs though, and just a hallucination of sorts, however, it felt and looked very, VERY real. More real than our own reality.

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Loaded Shaman said:
r00tcmplx, my man, you'd be much much better off using your ability to write such long, intricate, thought-provoking posts on a better medium like a book or a personal blog; don't spend that energy here you're going to get buried. It's too heavy for a discussion here, even though it appears to be the place for it. Trust me, I made several deep philosophy threads regarding epistemology and space and time being abstracts, and everyone missed the forest for the trees because I went on and on and on, even though I was accurate lol.

I agree with what you say about Lazar being a shill. I thought I was the only one on here for a while that felt that way. You provide an impressive amount of content in your posts that honestly, 99% of people aren't going to bother with. I read it all. Most won't. That's not to your advantage on this site, just a heads up (a friendly warning so you keep your sanity)!



There's a sorter and process to things and discovery that remands certain details and ideology to the obscure and off-beat paths of life. It is as you note a frustrating nature until you ultimately come to understand the broader nature of things. I have ran an incredible amount of details up many flagpoles in my life and in that struggle have learned an incredible amount on the nature of things and humanity. Such a process teaches unimaginable things. There is a lot of truth to what you say but this is actually a part of my process of winding down such efforts. I have visited a wealth of groupings along my journey. In doing so, I have noted the incredibly disjoint nature of things currently...

This leads to conclusions of sorts in fully grasping things through hands on experiences.
There's the technology I refer to which is on the horizon. It's been a work in progress for time. It is molded and forged by a combination of rare information across largely diverse groupings. Time/care and consideration given to its unveiling and launch .. lots of struggles to get various groups to 'see' but not the capacity. But eventually a thing's time comes and come it does to steer things back on course. Hope is held out ... understanding kept at bay for ages but eventually the destine progress comes. By putting in the effort in various groupings to communicate things for the many unaware, a unique and true perspective is gained. One that can't be measured in a mainstream aggregate for it much be intimately felt by the observer.

I won't be here for long, I have been sort of rounding out some final commentary to a community I frequented in the past. A place where I encountered great minds at times that sent me along grand paths... dropping some gems behind as they so did for me. I look forward to the future that is ahead... for in it greater understanding revealed and manifested such that it becomes a conversation on all tongues along an infinitude of perspectives. You sort of just want to take it all in in raw form on the ground sometimes knowing such a thing before it all changes.

This phenomenon called the internet will be combed in the future to a degree you cant imagine just as truth seekers do of knowledge bases of old currently. In it, the right mind will find these gems and it will provide them the glimpse they too need to usher in new ages and so on and so forth. So here I make my mark and testament of sorts.

For great words proceed great manifest.
To the age of symmetry 20/20 .. only a short while away
Ayyy may we all find our way
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My phone is fucking up my access to the forums today, but know this: this place is one of the best resources for passive research possible on these topics, but the forums leave a lot to be desired.

I find that people are either too into drugs to grasp critical philosophy, or else they're too academic (not enough drugs, lol) and miss the huge gaping holes regarding thr materialist/positivist/determinist cosmology. It's very, very hard to talk about shit that actually matters in the metaphysical sense, and I lose interest and steam after seeing absolutely asinine threads go on and on with no substance and people just circle-jerking low-hanging fruit logic, then pile on the fallacies and here we go!


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LittleDipster said:
I can mostly agree with this, however I'm not too sure if it is necessarily cyclical in nature, at least the PHYSICAL universe, I will try to delve more into my thoughts on this later in my reply. There is a lot of evidence that stars will eventually burn out, black holes will eventually evaporate due to hawking radiation, and there will be nothing left, at least in our observable universe. There are also theories that the universe will end by a "big rip" where eventually dark energy will overcome all the other cosmic forces, tearing galaxies, then planets, then even molecules and atoms apart. This is not known yet however.




Indeed, even what I framed are tons of strung together theories.. A sensible framework of support but still theory. Thing about what you describe can be thought of as the decay of a biology being though right? And you see various scales of it as you already outlined. Now, all you have to do is recognize the completed cycle of such a thing.. things decay to nothing but then they go in turn to spring new life of a new form.. Now indeed there is decay down to the atomic level and likely beyond .. but do you really think things die out completely whereas nothing around you exhibits that. So, what happens when trillions of years go by and for an intents purpose the whole universe as we know it decays to stillness.. well then, enters in an encompassing back-pressure which sucks things back into the 'bang' and begins things again.
This is what I linked to as Grand cyclical theory.

Watch now closely starting at the 3min mark.. watch the bang .. exploding expanding.. crush down to stillness then the vacuum causing another and another dwindling down..
Do you see it now ?
https://physicsworld.com/a/cyclic-universe-could-explain-cosmological-constant/


LittleDipster said:
There are definitely theories that jive more with what you are saying though, but dark energy and the expansion of the universe kind of point things in a different direction. I do believe this is only true from our perspective in time, though.



Dark energy like 'God' is a pretty big term we use a place holder for things we can't see. Dark energy is a box academics put all the stuff we can't explain at a cosmic level in a box.

LittleDipster said:
It is  the forces of our universe are 'tuned' so well as they allow for the formation of matter, DNA, and consciousness.




An engineer's fingerprint.

LittleDipster said:
I theorize that (if not infinite), then it is close to an infinite amount of different universes were "formed" at the big bang, all with different 'tunings' and qualities of forces. Ours split off almost instantly from the others, as time as we perceive it formed. From our perspective inside of time, we can only see that ours arose from a singularity, that did not have "time". It is like we are in an isolated bubble, however with things like the cosmic microwave background, we can see the universe as it was very early and hot still. A lot of physicists think the early quantum fluctuations are what actually gave rise to matter and then galaxies and the universe as we know it, so I think it's possible that these fluctuations are what allowed for our "bubble" to form.




100% agree but I see beyond that to a design/designer. And I sought out to understand a significant gem found in that design so as to understand a greater purpose.. manifestation for the times ahead.

LittleDipster said:
Yes I definitely agree, you have a great way of seeing things. I call these fractal expressions, and it points to an all encompassing "geometry" of everything, I see it as a multidimensional fingerprint of sorts.




Yes, i'd use the same language here.. "multidimensional fingerprint of sorts. " I like that too

LittleDipster said:
Where we will most likely disagree, and is mostly just a theory I play around with in my head, is that I think consciousness itself is a cosmic property, it essentially created a virtual "dimension" inside our our physical universe. Consciousness itself is not a physical phenomenon. It may emerge out of it, and most likely needs matter, a nervous system etc. but exactly what it is, is yet to be understood fully. I think that it's possible that our universe contains consciousness because consciousness is what created it.




And now you arrive at the coming age reveal... Something that will beg people to have a more grounded take/perspective on things. Immersed too much in muddy waters, it will be a troubling period for many.

LittleDipster said:
I imagine the singularity before the big bang having infinite POTENTIAL, containing the infinite number of possibilities, which could possibly allow for consciousness to form inside of it, however this is still thinking in the perspective of linear time. It would have always been a potentiality inside of the singularity, and I think this is why our universe contains the 'tunings' that it has, it manifested itself, and the fractal expressions of that are all around us, similar to the fact that the filaments that bind galactic clusters together resemble a neural network. This is only an idea I play around with in my head though.




And now I see that you are actually quite well grounded in an ideological framework that is to come.

Solid framing to play with...

LittleDipster said:
Have you watched any lectures from Leonard Susskind? He is perhaps my favorite physicist. His concept of a holographic universe is awesome,




Yes an incredible amount. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Penrose as well.

LittleDipster said:
and I think that consciousness itself could be holographic as well. This is what can allow people to have experiences like OBE's, NDE's, and mysterious things like living other lives while in a coma.




The 'crystal' palace as it were is indeed an elusive construct. One that some have framed and have a blurry picture. One soon to be manifested in a new age form.
Lots of other details make this thing 'complete' but there is that moment when you know you have a blurry picture of something .. that just needs to be refined


LittleDipster said:
It's also what can allow people to experience "everything" during a true ego death experience. If you look into these things, they are certainly mysterious and should not be so easily dismissed. The mind is certainly extremely powerful, but these reports are sometimes by very grounded and scientific thinking people, and they experience things that they should have like in NDE's where people have no brainwave activity and no pulse. 




No stone was left unturned. I guess, having a refined picture and answers leads one to speak differently about these things and their nature. You are indeed correct and in that a certain detailed picture... and then one grinds away at it until ahhhh', there it is and upon that, you see everything.. the muddy waters.. what is and what isn't .. and everything in between. And in that moment comes a respective pause to take stake in the beauty of that and how that finality of the refined picture will change things.. forever. Of course, it will give birth to a new beauty of thought and mystery but in having that answer you recognize the cycle and stages and ages that will have to pass before coming there. You question the thought of acting on it. You question the many possible outcomes that can occur. The pros/cons. The destruction and creation.. As an engineer beyond you likely once thought to themselves and you linger there for some time until things align and compel you forward... And that's the potential feeling of things in this moment.

LittleDipster said:
To sum up my interpretation, I think that we actually exist inside of the singularity, but inside of the dimension of time within it. We did not split off necessarily, but it appears that way from our perspective inside of it. I think consciousness is an intrinsic part of the singularity, and it allows itself to manifest in every form possible, including me and you.




And only enough after my hiatus and pondering .. here I have arrived at this point in time with much contention between you to arrive at a moment in which I recognize that the time has come to move forward with manifest. For in this moment I see another with a sharp enough view awaiting an answer and of all the other possibilities.. we met and hashed things out to this point. And now I know why I came here and stayed with this thread until now


LittleDipster said:
Here are a few videos I think are relevant. The last few are very long, but interesting if you have some time to really spare.









Ah', a good overlap of content from ground I have covered.
The world is indeed ready. The ideas front and center for some time.

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Loaded Shaman said:
My phone is fucking up my access to the forums today, but know this: this place is one of the best resources for passive research possible on these topics, but the forums leave a lot to be desired.

I find that people are either too into drugs to grasp critical philosophy, or else they're too academic (not enough drugs, lol) and miss the huge gaping holes regarding thr materialist/positivist/determinist cosmology. It's very, very hard to talk about shit that actually matters in the metaphysical sense, and I lose interest and steam after seeing absolutely asinine threads go on and on with no substance and people just circle-jerking low-hanging fruit logic, then pile on the fallacies and here we go!



100% accurate. I have been here for some time just so you know. I have access to and speak among pure academics who also leave much to be desired as you say. From the lay to the ayy, there lacks overlap of ideology... and indeed one looking for that grand overlap to obtain a great idea is left wanting and wondering .. and feels alone and misunderstood along the journey.. much time/effort/energy at times feels wasted. Potential wasted. The same format as you say of the human experience and lower mind wading things down... But then there are gems that make the whole thing worth it.. very rare indeed .. but there it is .. again and again in these circles of frustration.. and if you grind enough you get something here and there that can be put together into quite the picture.. quite the picture

And you want others to see what you see .. but its too much... and this weighs on you and frustrates you.. and then sometimes.. rare time... this understanding is granted to an 'engineer' capable of manifesting it.. they do so not haphazardly but with caution and careful consideration that such a grand this is due.. but eventually the time comes where it is manifested .. and then ah', in that new truth/understanding the world is bathed in a new light such that ah', now 'they' see. Such moments carefully spread over time so as to allow us mere mortals the affinity of chance/willed action in ignorance. But there you are sometimes as history is being made .. and the journey man truth seeker longs for that in grasps it in many forms throughout their existence. So, I say .. point completely acknowledged and agreed upon. I was brought here for a reason I felt as I have been finishing off my rounds in various places. To the manifest I go from here.

I leave my contributions here for this place has granted me an unworldly perspective into my journey and I am thankful. Even in my many frustrated posts and discussions as you say, I grasped an unimaginable understanding .. And those long nights when I felt like I met a mirror of my soul here at times.. as if I was dancing with the creator myself. Its what its all about.

There's some grand times ahead .. just know this. I think a lot of great minds have been longing for it for some time and I feel they wont be disappointed.

This will serve as my last post because as you note, there is indeed productive work to be done at some point. I just wanted to give my thanks to the community

LittleDipster.. special shot out to you for the parting encounter
:raisemyglass:

:nicesmile:
Get ready lads .. 

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:poast:

I'm glad we both decided to delve a little deeper into our thought processes. I feel they are both actually very similar and I see you have a firm grasp on it, definitely have done your share of insight and research. I get frustrated trying to talk to people sometimes as well, many people want nothing to do with understanding it on their own, and refuse to really research the essential topics for even a basic understanding. I would consider the engineer you speak of as consciousness itself, so I'm interested if your willing to delve even further into your thought process. I agree with a lot of what you say even about the alien psy-op and such, its obvious its not genuine in nature, however I don't rule out they could possibly exist.

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And you want others to see what you see .. but its too much... and this weighs on you and frustrates you.. and then sometimes.. rare time... this understanding is granted to an 'engineer' capable of manifesting it.. they do so not haphazardly but with caution and careful consideration that such a grand this is due.. but eventually the time comes where it is manifested .. and then ah', in that new truth/understanding the world is bathed in a new light such that ah', now 'they' see. Such moments carefully spread over time so as to allow us mere mortals the affinity of chance/willed action in ignorance. But there you are sometimes as history is being made .. and the journey man truth seeker longs for that in grasps it in many forms throughout their existence. So, I say .. point completely acknowledged and agreed upon. I was brought here for a reason I felt as I have been finishing off my rounds in various places. To the manifest I go from here.



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as if I was dancing with the creator myself. Its what its all about.





:thumbup: I feel this way too, and this forum was an essential part of my understanding, especially users that pushed for more critical thinking, and to not blindly follow others beliefs and thoughts but to come to my own conclusions. I have a feeling that there are many more people who are beginning to understand what we're talking about, maybe in their own ways, but I do believe it's a general shift in people's worldview.

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Yes a general shift indeed. And their is a major reason for that in which only some that shift in it are aware of, there will be a day when all that you thought to be is not, and all that you thought not to be is.
We are in the center if that day. A limbo for now if you will, but much closer than further away.

Very soon everyone will be a seer, because they are going to see. There really is no point in fighting what is true and what is not, as we are in between that but closer to the truth all that you've said is false will be seen as factual.
And again, indeed do I think logically, that doesn't mean I can't be a dreamer. I am a logical dreamer which most people fail at, most people are led to believe that their own mind is playing tricks on them and believing that is the trick.

Here is a very good question to all whom read this,
But more so, who is dedicated to picking apart every sentence and twisting while completely cutting off the actual point somone typed in the message and than finishing it with your own point, dear poot complex,

Which of these are you?
Let's say the truth is revealed. The government and everything that is essentially ruling the human race comes out and says, yes we are reptiles. Let's say they all demask on the news. Tell you it was all fake and everyone is fucking idiots for following any of it. Everyone has followed media and praised by an entirely different demonic species that has been here for aeons, can't even differ between actual human reality or not. Y'all have actually believed we were human.
By the by, this is going to happen, it is going to happen sooner than you know it, yes. In this very lifetime of yours.,

And which person are you?
The one that feels absolutely betrayed in their humanity, scared, distraught and completely disgusted.

Or are you the one that says, cool this is absolutely amazing I can't believe it! That's so scientific and smart, now that we know they're all aliens I wonder what they'll do for us next!

PS. They would like both reactions to happen, as you can see this pattern of human reaction, both sides within let's say, every single movie they make for us.
Its a win win for them. Even if we feel disgusted, now we know we're ruled by them and give in completely and entirely with fear,, while most are rooting for them,
Either reaction would please them.
Haven't you noticed they're always winning? They have won so far, but when these things are revealed before us it will be the beginning of the holy world war.

Do not fear when thousands are to die before you,
Do not fear when these things are revealed.
These that have been our rulers are to face their untimely demise before they even know it,
Funny enough they want this war. They like war, a lot, where do you think they get all their snacks other than those that they drag into their tunnels, as well as soldiers, it is the perfect excuse for mass murder and the perfect excuse for a human to go MIA


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