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Re: War with Iran anyone? [Re: Morel Guy]
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Morel Guy said:
Not totally true.  There is pretty much a direct war in ukraine but ukraine is not yet nato.  Pretty much what it's about.

I'm sure US intel and spec ops are in ukraine killing russians and pro russian rebels.  Call it advising but we know they do more.

Russia denies their own involvment as so do we.  Basic cold war stuff but this is russias backyard.

We have no idea the extent we were involved with Chechnya either.  There's a lot more as to why shows like the stories of us seals has like 3 or 4 missions and that's it.

There's a thousand active seals and a thousand active marine spec op guys.  Not to mention a smorges borge of US Army special troops.  They operated in 140 sone nations in 2018.

It's just not propagandized like we're all gonna die....yet!


Did...you read my post at all? THERE WILL NEVER BE A DIRECT SKIRMISH BETWEEN SUPERPOWERS. This means that there will never be a war fought by an army flying the US flag against an army flying the Russian flag.

Russian backed rebels and US trained and armed militias are not a direct skirmish between superpowers. They are, pretty much by definition, a proxy war.

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Re: War with Iran anyone? [Re: Kryptos] * 1
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The Russians have a new toy: the Poseidon.

Its an undetectable underwater drone that holds a 100 megaton bomb encased in a cobalt mantle that can travel 10,000km or lie dormant in an underwater bay.

What it does is generate a 1500 foot high, extremely radioactive Tsunami, that completely fucks with the coastal region of whichever continent you be fucking with.

The Atlantic fleet gets 15, the Pacific fleet gets 15.


They also have a new ICBM which holds 16 MIRV warheads of 150-300 kT, one single ICBM can lay waste to an area the size of Texas. They want to mass produce it as their main next generation ICBM


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Re: War with Iran anyone? [Re: Asante] * 1
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Maybe Trump shouldn't have withdrawn from our nuclear arms treaty with Russia?


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Re: War with Iran anyone? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Meanwhile, the US is deploying troops to Saudi Arabia to help them protect their oil refineries.

No way that they get attacked and it becomes "an attack on US troops! TIME TO BOMB IRAN!"

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Re: War with Iran anyone? [Re: Kryptos]
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Kryptos said:
Meanwhile, the US is deploying troops to Saudi Arabia to help them protect their oil refineries.


Quoted for truth.  Not to help protect the people nor the children of Yemen, but to protect oil.

Kryptos said:
No way that they get attacked and it becomes "an attack on US troops! TIME TO BOMB IRAN!"


Sarcasm?  That's exactly what could happen.  :shrug:


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Re: War with Iran anyone? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Kryptos said:
No way that they get attacked and it becomes "an attack on US troops! TIME TO BOMB IRAN!"


Sarcasm?  That's exactly what could happen.  :shrug:


Nah, it's not sarcasm. It's a prediction for...I wanna say May 2020. I don't wanna lock in 100%, because I think it could be April or June, but right around then is when I expect the first bomb to drop on Iran.

So US troops need to get hit sometime in November-December.

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Re: War with Iran anyone? [Re: Kryptos]
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It's colder in Iran then so much better for troops.

It's gonna be a shit storm for sure.


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Re: War with Iran anyone? [Re: Asante] * 1
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Asante said:
The Russians have a new toy: the Poseidon.

Its an undetectable underwater drone that holds a 100 megaton bomb encased in a cobalt mantle that can travel 10,000km or lie dormant in an underwater bay.

What it does is generate a 1500 foot high, extremely radioactive Tsunami, that completely fucks with the coastal region of whichever continent you be fucking with.

The Atlantic fleet gets 15, the Pacific fleet gets 15.


They also have a new ICBM which holds 16 MIRV warheads of 150-300 kT, one single ICBM can lay waste to an area the size of Texas. They want to mass produce it as their main next generation ICBM


Nuclear masturbation is all fun and dandy, but really we reached the point of mutually assured megaton level icbm destruction in as raw as form as could be desired about 60-70 years ago, not about to pee my pants again about some fancy new way to deliver it, it's rather meaningless.


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Re: War with Iran anyone? [Re: twighead] * 1
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Highly recommended analysis of an Iran invasion....do watch!


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Re: War with Iran anyone? [Re: Morel Guy] * 2
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Not much in the way of new information, that's all info we've covered ad nauseum in this thread.

However, this really focuses on the long term effects. The video in no way covers the immediate results of an invasion, which is almost always a boost of rally around the flag patriotism for the next hundred days.

donald doesn't give a flying fuck about what happens after 2020. donald just wants to get re-elected. Once he's re-elected, it's no longer his problem. He's president for the next four years, and he doesn't have much longer left on the biological clock past that. He can go spend his second term golfing. The rest of the US has to deal with the war. He can do a Bush Jr with a bigger economic crash, dip on out to a country that doesn't extradite, and spend the rest of his life living in luxury. He's a conman--his job is to grab what he can and leave everyone else (US citizens) holding the bag.

That's really the thing. Everybody knows invading Iran is going to be a clusterfuck of epic proportions. The thing is, the people in charge also know that in about a decade, it won't be their problem anymore, because they'll all be dead of old age. Their goals are to live nice for those next few years. The fact that we're stuck dealing with a fucked invasion for the next three decades isn't really a factor to them.

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Re: War with Iran anyone? [Re: Kryptos]
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If re-elected he’ll make Ivanka Secretary of State.  And we’ll see a lot more of this.



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Re: War with Iran anyone? [Re: twighead]
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twighead said:
Asante said:
The Russians have a new toy: the Poseidon.

Its an undetectable underwater drone that holds a 100 megaton bomb encased in a cobalt mantle that can travel 10,000km or lie dormant in an underwater bay.

What it does is generate a 1500 foot high, extremely radioactive Tsunami, that completely fucks with the coastal region of whichever continent you be fucking with.

The Atlantic fleet gets 15, the Pacific fleet gets 15.


They also have a new ICBM which holds 16 MIRV warheads of 150-300 kT, one single ICBM can lay waste to an area the size of Texas. They want to mass produce it as their main next generation ICBM


Nuclear masturbation is all fun and dandy, but really we reached the point of mutually assured megaton level icbm destruction in as raw as form as could be desired about 60-70 years ago, not about to pee my pants again about some fancy new way to deliver it, it's rather meaningless.



Hey now, we all knew of the mushrooms of fire and the fireballs of air blasts, but getting hit by 1500ft/500meter tall tsunamis is a whole new sight to take in.

It makes it just that much more apocalyptic.

The ICBM is impressive too. Take out 16 city sized targets with 1 missile. I live in the Benelux area of Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg. That entire area can be laid waste to with a single ICBM. That's impressive.


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Re: War with Iran anyone? [Re: Asante]
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SLBMs have mirvs as well.

So much of an arms race and stockpile is to try and have as much of your stock survive a first wave attack.  I don't know how much they still do this, in the cold war they always had nukes on bombers in the air.  As well as boomers at sea.  Always a heavy rotation of keeping nukes armed and ready.

ICBMs are always ready unless accident or repair.  They've had some doozies.


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Re: War with Iran anyone? [Re: Morel Guy] * 1
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Iran's foreign minister, speaks better English than Trump and makes a lot of sense.
I was watching his eyes and only saw one instance where he looked under pressure.


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Re: War with Iran anyone? [Re: Stable Genius]
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"CBS News Pushes 100% Propaganda On IRAN"   

More Fake News.


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Re: War with Iran anyone? [Re: qman]
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Got through 50 secs and I wonder who is this jackoff?


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Re: War with Iran anyone? [Re: Kryptos]
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Kryptos said:
Morel Guy said:
Not totally true.  There is pretty much a direct war in ukraine but ukraine is not yet nato.  Pretty much what it's about.

I'm sure US intel and spec ops are in ukraine killing russians and pro russian rebels.  Call it advising but we know they do more.

Russia denies their own involvment as so do we.  Basic cold war stuff but this is russias backyard.

We have no idea the extent we were involved with Chechnya either.  There's a lot more as to why shows like the stories of us seals has like 3 or 4 missions and that's it.

There's a thousand active seals and a thousand active marine spec op guys.  Not to mention a smorges borge of US Army special troops.  They operated in 140 sone nations in 2018.

It's just not propagandized like we're all gonna die....yet!


Did...you read my post at all? THERE WILL NEVER BE A DIRECT SKIRMISH BETWEEN SUPERPOWERS. This means that there will never be a war fought by an army flying the US flag against an army flying the Russian flag.

Russian backed rebels and US trained and armed militias are not a direct skirmish between superpowers. They are, pretty much by definition, a proxy war.



You don't know that.  Just because they take their patches off doesn't mean what you think.  Several if not many nations are poised for direct all out war.  That's a war in it's self.

Your're right there may never be an all our direct war, because none could handle that.  But there's plenty of covert action to go around.  I don't think you know what that entails.


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Re: War with Iran anyone? [Re: Morel Guy] * 2
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Morel Guy said:
Got through 50 secs and I wonder who is this jackoff?


Jimmy Dore is a hardcore liberal that's actually intellectually honest.  He's something you should give a try someday, instead of being blinded by hatred.

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Re: War with Iran anyone? [Re: Morel Guy]
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qman said:
Morel Guy said:
Got through 50 secs and I wonder who is this jackoff?


Jimmy Dore is a hardcore liberal that's actually intellectually honest.  He's something you should give a try someday, instead of being blinded by hatred.


:whathesaid:

Jimmy Dore was criticizing the mainstream media for being so pro-war.  How does that make him a "jackoff"?


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Re: War with Iran anyone? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Because personalities that want attention are jack offs in my opinion.

I guess we are stuck between war being bad and it's gonna happen, somewhere sometime.  Plus I don't really enjoy being reminded of all the bullshit that is required.  I don't find antiwsr propaganda the device it should be.  It's much like conspriacy theory, it tends to invalidate a whole area of rhetoric.

Just say JFK or Oswald and they wanna throw you in an insane asylum.  Say facists and you're asking for police brutality and a harsher sentence.


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