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Re: Retirement - Who here is saving up? [Re: Asante]
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Asante said:
gopher said:
I am on disability im not allowed to save more then like 1000 dollars, there is one way, you can apply for a disability tax break, and if you get that, you are elligable for a to apply for a RDSP(regestered disability savings plan) and if you get a RDSP you can save money and the government will match it X3 when you retire


but I applied for a disability tax break and got denied, they thought I wasnt disabled enough, I didnt even want the tax break though, Its dumb you have to be on this tax break to apply for a RDSP, every needs retirement money

Ill probably try and get a job and just say fuck it about the disability money, I unfortently have good genes, all my grandparents lived till like 90, im gonna need retirement money, how will I afford a home when im too old to take care of myself

the only problem is every time I get a job I get super paranoid about my co-workers plotting against me or even when not bbeing paranoid, they tell me things I dont want to hear, one guy kept telling me about all the drugs he was doing and selling, and these stories of a violent friend of his

either that or maybe ill play the lottery, imgaine winning 50 million?, is start a church of fasting




:gold: :silver:



im not into saving into a shoebox under my bed, I know someone who did that, 20k and his house burnt down and lost it all

plus I think technically im supposed to report any assets (gold) I have, although itd be easy enough to do without them knowing


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Re: Retirement - Who here is saving up? [Re: gopher]
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I hoping to get hit by a car, or preferably something cooler like a huge train derailing. I don't care if I die, I just want it to be quick. Retiring sounds awful. Who wants to have all their money when they are old and useless? I feel bad enough wasting much of the time I already have


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Re: Retirement - Who here is saving up? [Re: Mickalopagus]
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Some people rip on 401K funds and mock the 3 to 5% many companies match, but I would have saved nothing during the last 20 years if I had not regularly put a bit away in a 401K. I'm on track to have $200,000 when I retire in 12 years. The power of compounding interest is incredible. The general public has no clue how much they could save if they skipped some fast food meals or Starbucks or a few beers every once in a while.

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Re: Retirement - Who here is saving up? [Re: bloodsheen]
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bloodsheen said:
I hoping to get hit by a car, or preferably something cooler like a huge train derailing. I don't care if I die, I just want it to be quick. Retiring sounds awful. Who wants to have all their money when they are old and useless? I feel bad enough wasting much of the time I already have





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Re: Retirement - Who here is saving up? [Re: bloodsheen]
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bloodsheen said:
Retiring sounds awful. Who wants to have all their money when they are old and useless?



I know people who are 60, 70, and 80 who are more engaged in a joyful life than many younger people.

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Re: Retirement - Who here is saving up? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
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Doubtful. I know it’s scary getting old, but don’t delude yourself

There’s no substitute for youth when you’ve reached your 70’s or 80’s and you’re sitting around in your own piss, wincing as the rheumatism shoots through your body

Uh, fuck that


Edited by LaughNowCryLater (07/18/19 06:33 PM)

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Re: Retirement - Who here is saving up? [Re: LaughNowCryLater]
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Not everyone is scared of aging. Many people abandon their attachment to being miserable as they age.

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Re: Retirement - Who here is saving up? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
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that would require having disposable income.


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Re: Retirement - Who here is saving up? [Re: Bjorn_Stormcrow]
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Abandoning the habit of misery requires cash?

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Re: Retirement - Who here is saving up? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
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The misery of the body as it ages isn’t something you’re given the option to abandon

Also, keep in mind that successive generations are living shorter lives and the wealth of the middle class is in decline.

Everyone cries in the end.

I watched my grandfather as he readied himself to die. The only time I ever saw him cry was as I prepared to leave him on one of my last visits. The party was over and he wasn’t having any fun anymore

Seems like a waste to live your entire life for a respite at the end, part of which you’re going to spend in misery. But I’m not cut out for normal life, so my opinion is definitely biased and coming from a perspective most people will never be able to relate (and they’re probably better off  for not being able to relate).

Edited by LaughNowCryLater (07/18/19 07:18 PM)

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Re: Retirement - Who here is saving up? [Re: LaughNowCryLater]
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Both parents of my stepmom lived into their mid-90s in jolly good health, then they got a brief illness that did them in and that was that.

Some of you think 40-50 is the end of the line.

No, it might well be midlife.

If you're fairly young now, with technology exploding, you might well live to be 100.


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Re: Retirement - Who here is saving up? [Re: Asante]
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Asante said:
Both parents of my stepmom lived into their mid-90s in jolly good health, then they got a brief illness that did them in and that was that.

Some of you think 40-50 is the end of the line.

No, it might well be midlife.

If you're fairly young now, with technology exploding, you might well live to be 100.



Don't you put that evil on me Ricky Bobby


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A cautious young fellow named Lodge / Had seat belts installed in his Dodge. / When his date was strapped in / He committed a sin / Without even leaving the garage. That's clever, isn't it?-A boy and his dog

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Re: Retirement - Who here is saving up? [Re: Asante]
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It’s all going to get far more precarious

This thread makes me think about Asante’s from the other day having to do with complicity

I’m not sure you can claim to be working toward changing the current system if you’re dutifully plugging money into 401ks

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Re: Retirement - Who here is saving up? [Re: LaughNowCryLater]
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Sure aren't at 28.

That's future me's problem.


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Re: Retirement - Who here is saving up? [Re: YangSupporter] * 1
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YangSupporter said:
mick said:
This is intentionally Pub mix instead of Money matters.

Everyone here, assuming you are 18 and older - unless you plan to live of the fat of the land in some hippy commune, you should be thinking about retirement. Not when you're 25, 35, 45, not next year. You should be starting right now. How are you saving for your future retirement?

GO:



I live paycheck to paycheck I don't use drugs and I stopped drinking two years ago. I will never be able to buy a house start a family or even go on a vacation. If there was ever a emergency like a medical or car one I would lose my job and likely become homeless. There will be no retirement for me I will work until I am no longer able to.



Same


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"I don't give nothin' to nobody, I just pay the cost to do business." - Riley "Young Reezy"-Boondocks

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

"In the days of kings and queens I was a jester."

"And then the great lord created bears... too many bears... shoulda really dialed back on the bears." Squidbillies

"Can you start speaking words instead of your damn filthy lies!"- Louise "Bobs Burgers"

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Re: Retirement - Who here is saving up? [Re: Mickalopagus]
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Right now I max out my 401k each year.
I live in a high cost area, so my home is a big asset.
I'll be eligible for a pension at 55. If I took that pension it would be roughly 40k/year. I have a moderate plan to begin drawing that pension, then switch jobs and work while drawing it, but thats more than a decade away so who knows. I also have a modest stock portfolio.

My financial advisor sat me down with all his projections and I should be ok. In the worst case, I work in the scientific sector, so I don't do manual labor and should be able to work for an extended period of time, if necessary.


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...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge.  It is an indellible experience; it is forever known.  I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.

Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436

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Re: Retirement - Who here is saving up? [Re: Mickalopagus]
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I have an excellent retirement deal through my employer, so I'm not too concerned.

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Re: Retirement - Who here is saving up? [Re: nooneman]
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I did all that and got lucky enough to "retire" when I was 49. Now I'm trying to figure out how to get my retirement money into something that will still be worth something when the global economy tanks in a few years.


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Re: Retirement - Who here is saving up? [Re: Mickalopagus]
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I'm investing in collectable varieties of San Pedro cacti. Not only do the individual cuttings continually increase in value, but they also increase in mass.

Also fortunate that my ancestors were pretty successful and I'm the only heir in my immediate family


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Re: Retirement - Who here is saving up? [Re: Asante]
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Asante said:
mick said:
This is intentionally Pub mix instead of Money matters.

Everyone here, assuming you are 18 and older - unless you plan to live of the fat of the land in some hippy commune, you should be thinking about retirement. Not when you're 25, 35, 45, not next year. You should be starting right now. How are you saving for your future retirement?

GO:




Threads of this sort empower Shroomerites with knowledge to make the right decisions that put them ahead in life.

It strengthens Shroomerites as a group.

Thank you for bringing the topic to the table!




Thanks man, just doing my Shroomery PSA :smile:

What a wide range of responses, too much to respond to individually but ill hit some points people brought up:

Planning for retirement comes from the optimist in me. Yeah I could die early; ive already had cancer twice - but im not going to live like tomorrow is the last day. I'm a fighter, and would rather plan for the best than expect the worst. I have things to live for, and people I want to pass things to even if I did die. To die unexpectedly with retirement money in the bank, if the dice rolled that way, fuckit, at least my wife and daughter are taken care of. So yeah I dont like expecting the worst outcome, because that is not usually The outcome for most people. Most of us will live longer than we currently expect to.

I think the trick for some people and retirement planning is to try and make work its own retirement, if you can. Find a job that you enjoy so you dont feel like youre slaving away. Make it fun, and shape it to your needs of a work/life balance. Once you have that, you can kind of live partially retired, while planning for a more permanent one. Also, I've always been an advantage gambler, and putting money into investment vehicles feels kind of like 'smart' gambling. Its a lot slower than counting cards at a blackjack table, but I got time! The research of stocks, funds, or whatever, and then putting aside the money, and pulling the trigger on an investment - just makes the process fun. Doing it that way, I feel like saving for retirement is kind of exciting in and of itself. So yeah, thats my shpeal for tonight :smile:


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ChrisWho said: "It's all about the journey, not the destination."

Edited by Mickalopagus (07/19/19 12:59 AM)

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