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Re: My first monotub grow [Re: Cosmic_Cube]
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Pics of second tub, 15 days after spawning 3.5 quart jars.  I plan to not case it at all. Casing has failed my expectations on first tub.

I hope the color difference represents how thickly colonized the substrate is.

Do any of this look like they will grow pins anytime soon?





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Edited by Cosmic_Cube (06/07/19 11:59 AM)

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Re: My first monotub grow [Re: Cosmic_Cube]
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Contaminants turning brown/black. Mycelium is still alive and should be fighting back the contamination. Catastrophe happened because 1st monotub got infested with fungus gnats 5 days ago - I left it opened while doing other maintenance job. I sprayed  it heavily with 0.23% peroxide solution which effectively exterminated the evil. This might caused some mycelium to die and contams to appear in their place. Correct me if there are errors in my logic.


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Edited by Cosmic_Cube (06/07/19 09:52 PM)

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Re: My first monotub grow [Re: Cosmic_Cube]
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Any ideas? They turn black after hours. What can be done for treatment?  I sprayed a bit of H2O2 on it today. I will just wait, but this is really stressful situation. Google won't help. Not throwing it away anyway.






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Edited by Cosmic_Cube (06/08/19 06:30 AM)

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Re: My first monotub grow [Re: Cosmic_Cube]
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Thats a type of slime mold you have there. It might still fruit trying to outrun that, but id toss it and try again if it were mine.


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Re: My first monotub grow [Re: MoeMush]
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So, Shroomery people, I am doing my 3rd batch of jars tomorrow by G2G transfer and I have still not seen a single mushroom at all! But I am getting fanatic when it is about saving my culture for centuries. I plan to do a GLC on water &  on honey LC. Is there a way to transfer from grain to agar I wonder. I will definitely research it.

Shitty mold still growing on casing of 1st monotub, but 2nd monotub is showing all signs of healthy 100% colonization by the mycelium and getting whiter and thicker day by day. It is in fruiting conditions 5-7 days already. How long till pins will appear? Temps are in 75-80 range. Ventilation of this tube is apparently great, so I didn't misted or fanned it at all last 3 days. It is sitting in front of AC. I clean filters regularly. Do you think it is normal? Otherwise temps would rise to 86 and higher.


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Edited by Cosmic_Cube (06/11/19 03:33 PM)

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Re: My first monotub grow [Re: Cosmic_Cube]
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Here I go again :hi: Three days ago I finally saw some results of my project. This is the biggest pin detected yet. There are some more but I am trying to not disturb my tub by taking lid of for more detailed photography.


But there is almost no visible growth since they appeared 3 days ago. Is this normal way of things? She got a tiny bit ticker but it may be my imagination :grin:

They have plenty of FAE through 12 1" holes with polyfill, AC is working in room in combination with humidifier. Temperatures are 75-80. Night is warmer, because AC is off during the night. At my attempt for regular misting & fanning, mycelium at edges started to turn blue and I immediately stopped disturbing my tub. You can tell that polyfill provides plenty of FAE by looking at dry walls around them.
Here it is:



Prior to that, all of surface of my uncased substrate got covered by snowy white mycelium almost completely. My peat can be too acidic even with enough gypsum (I am yet to find calcium hydroxide in my town). What about fine black soil for flowers?

On my third tube which is 3 days in colonization, I plan to do a casing with fine, alkaline ph 7+ soil, perlite for aeration and vermiculite for moisture retaining. Gypsum alone should be enough ph stabilizer if I can't find calcium hydroxide (The one RR uses) in my town. Soil and gypsum will have high enough ph for cube likening and to great disappointment of contam spores  :hehehe: Of course I will pasteurize my mix at ~150 degrees for 60 minutes.

I have plenty of perlite for soil to be fluffy enough to aerate properly. Is there anything that I am wrong with using black soil instead of peat for casing my substrate?

Edited by Cosmic_Cube (06/18/19 10:34 AM)

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Re: My first monotub grow [Re: Cosmic_Cube]
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Thought I would share here.. first monotub grow B+.. I am on day 23 from inoculation of 2lbs rye seeds.. it only took 6 days to fully colonize on day 6 I shook the bag and on day 8 I mixed it into 2lbs hpoo sub with a 1/2 casing layer. Day 20 pins showed up. This is the fastest i have ever produced fruits.. was wondering if anyone else has had the same experience.. again this is day 23 of the entire process and this is my tub as of 10 mins ago.. pins are still showing up.. soooo many that havnt popped up yet..just little brown bumps all over the sub.. I am so excited at how my first monotub grow is going... fuck jars..I'll never go back.



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Re: My first monotub grow [Re: mushboy]
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mushboy said:
I'd stop searching for fix its and short cuts, ignore the hydrometer and let that tub do its thing so you can learn from this grow.

Why did you case it anyway. Cubes dont require casings and your second batch of pics look ok:confused:




I totally agree with this. Stop looking for silly ways to fix it. You need some patience. Set it- forget it. Keep surface conditions in mind but unless drastic, i say do not mist or fan. Leave it be. If you are following Teks from TC's that are up to date you should have absolutely no issues whatsoever. I am fairly new to the growing portion too, (studied microbiology for a while and have self taught plenty of things) but it is quite simple so long as you follow directions to a tee. Dont bother with wax paper and shit. Leave it be. let it ride.

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Re: My first monotub grow [Re: Logger87]
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Looks awesome:bow2: What size of bags did you used?


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Re: My first monotub grow [Re: Trich]
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It had a pooling of water on surface, formed naturally. I thought it was best to fan it for 7 minutes. After closing the lid, a tiny bit of mycelium acquired bluish tint. It has recovered after stopping misting the lid/walls & fanning.

I am following RR notes; Monotub holes are arranged according to various grow pictures on internet.

This is the image from 3 days ago:



Today's image:



I will take photo of any visible changes in pins.

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Re: My first monotub grow [Re: Cosmic_Cube]
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My first monotub is going nuts but I'm a little concerned. This is a new strain for me but cubes are cubes.. these are breaking veils way to soon.. is my rh to high to often? Not enough FAE? Also some caps have a lighter colored nipple on top that feels dryer than the rest of the cap.. is this normal for B+? Any input would be much appreciated


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Re: My first monotub grow [Re: Logger87]
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Looks delicious:heart: How long did these evolve from little pins like mine? I am trying to get rid of impression that mine are a bit stalled due to unknown human factor from my side:sad:

To be on safer side, today I switched them completely on natural light. I only lit my lamps for about 30 minutes many times per day, and when I want to watch them closely:heart: No mist or fan whatsoever - only FAE trough 12 1" holes moderately filled with polyfill.  average 25.1 celsius during the day & 26.5 during the night. Trying to keep RH always above 50% I even hooked a sterile hose to ultrasonic humidifier and fogged the hell out of my tubes :jah: So I believe RH of tub with pins should be near 80-90% I believe. I may even fan it a little bit (Watching closely that no stray gnat fly into the tube:eek: I have tons of sticky papers & Lents in grow room and even in my first monotub, they are attached on walls, stapled and taped on a wall. Non-sticky side was wiped with 70% alcohol thoroughly:crazy:) if no visible progress will be apparent till tomorrow.


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Edited by Cosmic_Cube (06/20/19 04:49 AM)

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Re: My first monotub grow [Re: Cosmic_Cube]
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My first monotub is still thriving:cool: Monotub is mildly infested with gnats and mold. If I raise RH there to about 70%, slimy mold will appear and die very quickly, and their black remains are eaten by clearly white mycelium. Currently no more mold has appeared for 5 days already. Gnats are treated besides of sticky papers, with incense spirals. I held burning spiral in a tube carefully for 3-5 minutes. It helps a lot. I do this kind of smoke therapy even if occasional gnat flyby's nearby :cool:


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Re: My first monotub grow [Re: Cosmic_Cube]
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The biggest ones have been popped since sunday..so today is day 5 of growth..I still have hundreds of pins coming in though

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Re: My first monotub grow [Re: Logger87]
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What are your temps, RH & lighting? I am suspecting that it may be my a little bit high fruiting temps of 78-80 degrees may be the reason of my stalled fruiting. Otherwise, there are perfect conditions I have, aren't they?

I was planning on finishing my grow before summer, but initial colonization of rye jars from spore syringe took too long because of over-filtered lids with tyvek. Inoculated on 03/14, mixed in monotub only on 05/09.

G2G inoculated jars take 2-3 weeks with polyfill lids for me. I have yet to test my colonization speed with spore syringe and polyfill lids:syringe::stoned:


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Re: My first monotub grow [Re: Cosmic_Cube]
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My tank is running 74° pretty consistently.. I like to colonize at 81° so there is a noticeable temp drop when you go into the fruiting stage. RH should always be above 90% but let the water beads evaporate from your sub before misting.. never to close and never directly at your mushrooms.. I use well water but purified or distilled water works ok too. Keep the FAE to a minimum to hold the c02 down.. pins need to fight to get above it so they can breath... slow constant fae seems to work good for me when trying to get my pinset going.. but this is my first monotub so it's a little trial and error for me too. But conditions arent any different than growing on cakes



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Re: My first monotub grow [Re: Logger87]
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You are messing with your tubs way too much and trying to understand more than you can handle as a beginner.

Do not worry about gypsum, get the hygrometer out of your tub, stop throwing wax paper into your tubs trying to take shortcuts.

Im going to tell you as simply as I can, acquire clean spawn, pasteurize coir and verm via bucket tek, mix those contents into your mono-tub, immediately throw bad-boy into fruiting conditions, DO NOT MIST UNTIL AFTER FIRST FLUSH. You are making it way more complicated on you than it should be.

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Re: My first monotub grow [Re: Mattrus]
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You are exactly right man..  Keep it simple and stick to what has been proven
Mother nature pulls this off every year without anyone's help people get too enthused about trying to come up with ways to grow better mushrooms it's ridiculous.. some clean well colonized rye and some good horse shit substrate.. and time. The effort comes when you want rounds 2 and 3 to show up.

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Re: My first monotub grow [Re: Logger87]
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A few of mine are opening up today


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Re: My first monotub grow [Re: Logger87]
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I would just keep loading more up so you can get more flushes under the belt, also I would just leave them be.. you are all up in it to much and could be the best vector for contamination.  Before you start worrying about how big the mushrooms are when the veil breaks I would 100% concentrate on PINSET its all in the pinset man.

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