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About to setup a couple bulk tubs after almost ten years of not growing
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Hey everyone, so I am brand new to this forum, but I was hoping to pick everybody's brain a bit.  My first few batches many, many years ago were your basic pf cakes.  When I stopped (probably about 8 years ago) I was using Rubbermaid's of bulk sub, and that's what I am going to jump right back to.
In the past, I have had great success with quart jars of popcorn added to a 50/50 worm castings/coco coir mix.  Since it has been so long, I thought I would freshen up my memory by cruising some forums and it seems like everyone here thinks popcorn basically sucks for bulk sub.  Now I never had any problems, and I liked the ease, but I also never tried anything else, so I can't really say it's better than other grains.
I noticed everyone seems to like Frank's teks, and he uses oats.  So my question is this: I already have my spore syringes, I was about to buy some popcorn at the grocery store, is there another grain that is really that much superior that I should use it instead?  Any advice is appreciated, thank you in advance.

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Re: About to setup a couple bulk tubs after almost ten years of not growing [Re: bassmintshaman]
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Whole oats are really good and run like $10-15 for 50 pounds of it, works wonderfully and I can link you a TEK that explains everything perfectly

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Re: About to setup a couple bulk tubs after almost ten years of not growing [Re: bassmintshaman]
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Oats and coir.

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Re: About to setup a couple bulk tubs after almost ten years of not growing [Re: Lanc3r117]
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What he said ^

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Re: About to setup a couple bulk tubs after almost ten years of not growing [Re: Jxshy12]
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Personally I like wheat more than oats, if you're talking about FrankHorrigan he used WBS as far as I can remember


Oats work great for many people (myself included) i just prefer wheat and get it cheaper


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Re: About to setup a couple bulk tubs after almost ten years of not growing [Re: sh4d0ws]
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After checking these posts I started shopping around for oats and didn't have much luck.  Because of the weight, shipping charges are ridiculous, and the closest place I could find any to buy in person is an hour drive each way.  Not to say that I am not willing to make that drive, but is it really worth it?
sh4d0ws, you mentioned wheat being cheaper, is there any particular kind of wheat I need to look for?  And I am sorry, I have been out of the game for a long time, wbs is bird seed, right?  Thanks again for all of the help.

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Re: About to setup a couple bulk tubs after almost ten years of not growing [Re: bassmintshaman]
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Say if you took that drive and picked up two 50lb bags for under $40 you’d bet set for the year

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Re: About to setup a couple bulk tubs after almost ten years of not growing [Re: Jxshy12]
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What kiND of coir Do yall use?  Is it sold in blocks?

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Re: About to setup a couple bulk tubs after almost ten years of not growing [Re: filmoee]
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I can't believe I didn't think of this before, there is a home brew shop just a bit down the street from me, I know I can get all kinds of grains from them, that would work, right?  What does everyone think?  And I use coconut coir, and yes, it comes in blocks.

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Re: About to setup a couple bulk tubs after almost ten years of not growing [Re: bassmintshaman]
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bassmintshaman said:
After checking these posts I started shopping around for oats and didn't have much luck.  Because of the weight, shipping charges are ridiculous, and the closest place I could find any to buy in person is an hour drive each way.  Not to say that I am not willing to make that drive, but is it really worth it?
sh4d0ws, you mentioned wheat being cheaper, is there any particular kind of wheat I need to look for?  And I am sorry, I have been out of the game for a long time, wbs is bird seed, right?  Thanks again for all of the help.


I'd venture to guess you have a local tack and feed store, should be $15-$20 for a 50 lb bag.


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Re: About to setup a couple bulk tubs after almost ten years of not growing [Re: bassmintshaman] * 1
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bassmintshaman said:
I can't believe I didn't think of this before, there is a home brew shop just a bit down the street from me, I know I can get all kinds of grains from them, that would work, right?  What does everyone think?  And I use coconut coir, and yes, it comes in blocks.


Stay away from anything roasted. Home brew stores also have malt powders for agar/lc:thumbup:


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Re: About to setup a couple bulk tubs after almost ten years of not growing [Re: sh4d0ws]
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sh4d0ws said:
Personally I like wheat more than oats, if you're talking about FrankHorrigan he used WBS as far as I can remember


Oats work great for many people (myself included) i just prefer wheat and get it cheaper


:whathesaid: herr are some links to cheap agar and malt https://www.ebay.com/itm/BRIESS-3lb-Dry-Malt-Extract-Dry-Malt-Extract-Malt-Extract-DME-YOUR-CHOICE/260942707322?hash=item3cc165ba7a:m:miingEI85c1-q4QPh9so4NA

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Agar-Agar-Powder-Vegan-Gelatine-1kg/232218236452?hash=item3611491624:g:3IcAAOSwlY1ZFcQw


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Re: About to setup a couple bulk tubs after almost ten years of not growing [Re: Boogieman47]
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Unfortunately, "my local tack and feed store" is the hour drive each way I mentioned.  City boy.  Hence the worm castings.  OK, brew shop is no good.  So it sounds like I have my answer.  Thanks everyone, it may not have been what I wanted to hear, but it was what I needed to.

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Re: About to setup a couple bulk tubs after almost ten years of not growing [Re: bassmintshaman]
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Ouch. Well, wild bird seed is another popular alternative and with mushboy's 24 hour soak TEK dead easy. People are also shredding BRF cakes into tubs and bulk spawning those too.


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Re: About to setup a couple bulk tubs after almost ten years of not growing [Re: hexkrak]
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Oats and coir with a pressure cooker. I use Bods unmodified tub tek. Results are fantastic. Easy peasy. Just gotta manage proper surface conditions, ensure level substrate, and make sure its 4 inches of spawn/sub. Good luck!

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