Pinkerton said:

I say, let's focus on leaving this suffering planet and its mighty animal kingdom, so it can heal after all the evil misery humans have put on it.

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LogicaL Chaos said:

I completely agree. Wise words

People have strong egos and strong beliefs. Changing those beliefs and old ways of thinking will not be an easy task.

But maybe, just maybe, its possible to have Global Peace

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Awesome LC. I kind of had a feeling you would chime in with your positive vibes. You've +1'd a few of my posts in the past and I sincerely take it to heart. Thanks a lot for the motivation.

Here comes a long post...

I spent last night and this morning binging on amphetamines writing the OP. Now I'm having some sort of aftereffect from the amphetamines so I popped a few xanax and had a some ciders.

Writing the OP on amphetamines gives me a kick out of this world, finding new ways of thinking, figuring out new arguments etc. It truly enriches my life understanding the psychology and stagnation between polar opposites like The Ecstatic and XUL and then understanding they need to look away from what they disagree on, neither likely ever going to convince the other in a disagreement, in particular red/blue debate - stagnation.

Simplified: The Ecstatic draws a line with a pen on a piece of paper, this is something to build on as XUL continues drawing from that same line. The Ecstatic continues drawing from XUL's line, eventually they have a drawing, together. Common ground.

Politicially: XUL claims big corporations have too much power, this is something to build on as The Ecstatic finds an argument supporting XUL's position. XUL finds another argument supporting The Ecstatic's argument, eventually they have a solid position against big corporations, together. Common ground.

Here's what happens, they build each other up. Remember: agreement creates harmony, friendliness and peace.

The moment The Ecstatic and XUL find themselves to disagree, they must strive to find a brand new agreement instead. Every day disagrement is disharmony. Everyday agreement is harmony.

The OP in this thread was a very long read and this post about as long, ballsalsa thinks I'm writing too long and he says I'm more or less posting nonsensically, normally I would not care what he says but I'm kind of trying to bring us political forum peeps together. I respect ballsalsa and I know he's not stupid. I'm on his side and would love ballsalsa to read the OP in this thread. Keep in mind, I'm foreign so the grammar may be a bit off. Also balls, I really don't think I'm God or Jesus or Messiah.

I almost always write my posts seriously in the political forum and I do believe shroomery has heaps of potential. I'll say it again, I want to start a revolution!

In the political forum Falcon91Wolvrn03 stands his ground like a real man - but I don't understand anything about Assange, Mueller report and Russia so I don't really understand most of fals posts - he also gives me many +1's to my posts and I'm not stupid so fal is a smarty - fal sure knows how to debate aswell. koods is controversial but very clever and somewhat funny but he can be very rude at times and is a posterboy for the snarky sarcasm. Enlil is a whizzy and perhaps the most rational poster of us all - I think if I get Enlil on my side it would make a quite big impact on the political forum - Enlil's views are not liked by many but surely he is respected - not only for his good moderating skills but his way of short and to the point posts. The mother/father of the shroomery Asante is very smart, very empathic and very lovey - he somewhat reminds me of myself - all about freedom for Africa - I wanted to donate money to him personally as a general courtesy but the shroomery didn't follow up on my request - I would like to meet Asante IRL and we do not live too far away from each other. The Ecstatic is abnormally intelligent in the political field his arguments are some of the best I've ever seen - if he could just focus that intelligence into brand new revolutionary arguments; to look above the left-wing position but that is difficult. Tantrika and I had a great debate on video games she sure challenged me and she sure is smart. shivas.wisdom is very empathic - he seems to be volunteering a lot and for me as a semi-altruist that is truthfully amazing and his ANTIFA-interest is wicked I'm all about fighting the power and he's also one of the smarter posters on this site. twighead is a clever one. As controversial as qman might be he's smart and rationale and believe it or not qman I agree with you more than you think on immigration, not everything but some of it. I liked XUL's recent thread about being sorry and then editing it turning it into Trump not because I like Trump but he sure fooled me - very cleverly done - I see hope in XUL - not him turning left but thinking above left/right politics. lowbrow is very direct this can often come off as quite toxic but at times it's a necessity. And yourself LogicalChaos is very uplifting and very real - when I'm about to read your posts I'm not worried there will be some snarky sarkastic unpleasant post - you're most definitely an asset to this forum and I'm truly happy you're a moderator - I think you're woke enough to see the potential in my serious posts just like tyrannicalrex - you's are few. psilynut2 shines with some fantastic and logical posts. vinsue, Brian Jones, Bigbadwoof and Tipote are all smart and sound posters. All of these usernames are the people I've encountered the most in the political forum so if you're not on this list it's because we may have had very few or no encounters on the forums.

Now if y'all could just put asside all your ping-poing debates about various politicians, Assange, Mueller report, red/blue politics and all that horseshit which in fact takes us nowhere. And instead create brand new plans and brand new arguments for a better world and maybe start a movement and even a revolution. 

XUL said:

I dont hate big corporations.

I hate monopolies.

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XUL said:

I think you are grossly mistaken on why conservatives are holding to our principles.

It's because conservatives tend to be traditionalists (hence the name conservative) and leftists are now the party of progressive radicalism.

Do you see the conflict?

Before 2016, democrats supported border security, argued that abortion should be rare and limited, supported the first amendment, and so forth. Democrats and Republicans could relate on things and could always agree America is the best.

Now we have democrats who want open borders, third trimester abortion, hate speech laws (and banning of campus speakers), making guns illegal, and now tearing down America's statues and burning our flag on the streets.

After years of calling every conservative, Trump supporter, or non-liberal white person a racist Nazi, you now want to play compromise?

I'll support you as a fellow Americans, but you pretty much wore me out by screaming racist, playing doctor, and stomping your feet.

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christopera said:

Lol yes please. Provide a single pro-abortion example.

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christopera said:

That’s you telling campfire stories, Boss. I’m not sure where you get your information, but nobody is advocating for open borders or pushing a pro-abortion stance.

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You beat me to it. 

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

christopera said:

That’s you telling campfire stories, Boss. I’m not sure where you get your information, but nobody is advocating for open borders or pushing a pro-abortion stance.

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You beat me to it. 

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XUL said:

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