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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: The89thchamber]
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Yes
My dreams
My mind
My feelings
And my emotions are physical lol
I can see
And feel them.

And your right energy is not created or destroyed which is why it converts to our environment once our body decomposes

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: Tripsten]
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??? Explain? Tell me how you can see them and touch them.

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: The89thchamber]
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You literally see your dreams every night , that one goes with out explanation
You feel your feelings , that’s what makes them feelings.
These are things generated with in the physical world , it is self evident.
Even the world you view right now is in a 1cm x 1cm box in the back of your head for your eyes do not literally look at the world but absorb light and send a signal
You view your mind every day of your existence
If you think thoughts, are you not aware of these thoughts ? Do you not see images in your head or hear auditory memory ?
These are the same as “live” sights and sounds in the ways that they are all produced with in the brain after gathering information

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: Tripsten]
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You see your dreams cause you're projecting the dimension you're in. So you project images from this 3d world to act out and work through your emotions.

Feelings aren't tangible things, that you claim to be physical... You're vibrating on an emotion whether it be happy, sad, angry, etc. Going back to dreams for second. What happens when you want to fight or running from something in your dreams. You move slow as hell right?? Its cause you're vibrating low. So you move slow... You want to fly in your dreams?? You feel light or happy. Then you will fly. All these aren't physical things, if you see what I'm saying.

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: The89thchamber]
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Say you have the idea to build a home. That's the frequency. You putting your time into building on that idea. All the feelings and emotions that being in this house is going to give you. Thats the vibration. Planning how it's going to look, etc. The more you do that, the more your idea becomes into physical reality, the energy, and you can be in that house you imagined.

Edited by The89thchamber (04/11/19 03:48 PM)

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: The89thchamber]
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Frequency and vibrations are physical things .....

Nothing in either of those two posts disproves anything I’ve stated
Emotions are felt
They don’t exist in some magical imaginary place
Anything that is with in the physical universe is physical
And I haven’t ever been given any point or argument that has even began to disprove that
You keep using physical things to describe what you mean
Because that’s all there is

Edited by Tripsten (04/11/19 03:57 PM)

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: Tripsten]
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The idea
And the house
Are both physical things lol
The difference is one is an idea
And one is a structure known as a house
Made of different stuff
Both physical

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: Tripsten]
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And no I don’t see what your saying
The dream itself is a physical occurrence that happens with in your mind

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: Tripsten]
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*sighs* okay, I'll let you keep on with that until you figure it out.

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: The89thchamber]
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The best I can do is that the body IS the individual soul apart of the larger
And individual in the sense that it is an individual body
I like that explanation
The89thchamber said:
*sighs* okay, I'll let you keep on with that until you figure it out.


Lol alright

Edited by Tripsten (04/11/19 04:18 PM)

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: Tripsten]
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Alright, well, one more thing since you added that.  If it's all physical, you shouldn't be smarter than your parents. Since they made you with their make up, there's no way you should be smarter than them. You shouldn't even have ideas greater than them. You only reach their limits.... You got children way smarter than their parents. How is that??

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: The89thchamber]
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That literally doesn’t correlate at all lol
Physical doesn’t mean that kids are clones of their parents but alrighty

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: Tripsten]
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Never said they were. But that went over your head. It's all good.

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: The89thchamber]
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You didn’t have to say it
Stop getting so intellectually defensive
“Oh I’ll LET you think that “
“That went over your head”
It’s all just things people throw out out of fear , confusion, or anger when they get upset that their viewpoint is being challenged
You’ve brought up points and I’ve explained with my own points ( which you completely avoid ) why they are not so

It’s just a discussion friend

You stated
“Since they made you with their make up you shouldn’t be smarter than them “
This would imply then that you would have the same brain capability as them
( which btw isn’t how reproduction even works ) which is akin to reproduction being a form of physical or natural cloning

When two animals mate they produce another animal from their genes
Their genes start the process but it grows what it grows into
Your intelligence , personality , etc are all products of your own environment and choices to an extent and then a small portion of it is indeed genes

You look different than them too lol
You may have some similar features but your not copies of them
So ya
It doesn’t correlate

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: Tripsten]
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Two preform reproduction which creates the body and then grows from there

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: Tripsten]
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But what if there was a dimension beyond your awareness? How could u prove it wasnt there?

Is the dream reality actually physical? Or is it something else above physical? Something more fluid than matter.

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: Tripsten]
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It's not being intellectually defensive. No fear or anger this way. Confused about your points, maybe, but I'm good where I'm at. I'm not upset that my views are being challenged. I actually enjoy it, to be honest. It's just you keep wrapping things around the physical and it's losing you.

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
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LogicaL Chaos said:
But what if there was a dimension beyond your awareness? How could u prove it wasnt there?

Is the dream reality actually physical? Or is it something else above physical? Something more fluid than matter.


That reminds me of quantum physics experiments where viewing the experiment changes the outcome.

As for ghosts and that, I am more influenced by my own imagination. When I was younger I would get the feeling something was stalking me and I would run from the dark.

I love the horror movies tho. If demons were real, I would arm to the teeth and go out Evil Dead style.


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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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Ya
That can be applied to anything and I truly mean this as non offensively as I can, but that just seems to be what people say when they can’t orove or explain their ideas
I’m saying that world you speak of which people search for and dream of going to one day is all around us right now,
We have always been there.
People say the word physical with a hint of sourness as if it were meager or bad
( not saying you but many)
And talk like they dream of existing somewhere better
If I learned anything through experience , research, and the Psychedellic journey it’s that the truth and meaning of life is as simple as what’s right in front of you, which is , in my experience , why people laugh so wildly when they reach what is called by many “the truth”
Because it feels so silly that one would do all this useless stuff like wild religious practice and traveling to other countries and seeking out spiritual masters and doing all their nonsense stuff
Just to find that you never had to do any of it for the answer


And to the other
You still haven’t been able to explain how it’s “losing me “
Or how we have an individual soul with in our body lol
You keep using physical thigns to try and describe it
Again
Because that’s all there is
So explain the exactly
What is the individual soul
What is it made of
Where is it


Why do people act as if tho this being all there is is so terrible when it’s so wonderful and freeing
And truly beautiful
Here we are
Existence
Life
Take a breath and enjoy it you know ?

Edited by Tripsten (04/11/19 05:19 PM)

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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LogicaL Chaos said:
But what if there was a dimension beyond your awareness? How could u prove it wasnt there?

Is the dream reality actually physical? Or is it something else above physical? Something more fluid than matter.


There we go!

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