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I'm kinda entertaining the thought to quit dissociatives * 7
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I never thought I'd get there this soon, but lately I find myself wondering whether I should lay off the dissociatives (Methoxetamine etc) altogether, and perhaps once in a blue moon munch a shroom or cactus and for the rest just call it a day.

Dissociatives did more good for me that all other drugs of my life combined, don't get me wrong, but I'm just wondering whether it's time to stop taking em and focussing on sober meditation/trance techniques and occasionally taking a pinch of psychedelic.

I did all the perinatal matrices getting rid of my birth trauma, finalized the riddance with the grand series of ego deaths making me a man reborn, got plunged in the transpersonal realm which I'm in high or sober - why go on?

With drugs I mean?

Maybe I'm ripe for the training wheels to come off and to do my sessions from sobriety upwards without ingestion.

I've gotten a great mastery of my consciousness when sober. My consciousness has gotten very negotiable.

I don't know, I don't feel resolute but maybe this is it.

Havent used any since my debacle of 30 december and feeling no real inclination to do so.

Nuke the stash and move on?

Who knows?


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Re: I'm kinda entertaining the thought to quit dissociatives [Re: Asante]
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Re: I'm kinda entertaining the thought to quit dissociatives [Re: Asante]
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The fact that you made this thread means its time dude. Nuke that stash!

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Re: I'm kinda entertaining the thought to quit dissociatives [Re: Asante] * 4
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Don’t nuke the stash just stash the stash.  I think this is a natural progression for a good number of people.  There comes a point when slightly above threshold can remind you of all the heavy doses showed you.  You attain the headspace easier.

Maybe just a little reminder dose every year or whatever and spend the rest of your time doing your good deeds here.  “Its” not going anywhere I don’t think...  I relate to your dilemma as I’m at the point of hanging my hat.  I don’t even trip but once every couple of years :shrug:

I feel like I’ve retained a good bit of wokeness from all my lessons even though you know how it all slips away a good bit.  As the late great Notorious BIG professed to a black man, don’t make a move if your heart’s not in it..


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Re: I'm kinda entertaining the thought to quit dissociatives [Re: Asante]
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I think you should embrace and navigate some sober life for awhile and lay off everything for awhile.  Make a timed goal.  I recommend 6 months minimum..

I would keep your stash for after that point unless you dont trust your willpower not to dip in...in that case, give it away


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Re: I'm kinda entertaining the thought to quit dissociatives [Re: Asante]
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What about just taking a pinch of dissociatives once in a while? Maybe control your binging habits with meditation?

Stretch the stash dont nuke it.

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Re: I'm kinda entertaining the thought to quit dissociatives [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 5
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I tried that strategy with etizolam grams and ended up in the hospital twice:cookiemonster:


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Re: I'm kinda entertaining the thought to quit dissociatives [Re: Amanita86]
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Yeah i could see that.

Are Dissociatives Asante's benzos?

I would argue probably.

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Re: I'm kinda entertaining the thought to quit dissociatives [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 4
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I think he has a special fondness for them..:thatsinteresting:


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Re: I'm kinda entertaining the thought to quit dissociatives [Re: Amanita86] * 2
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Give the stash to capncook :laugh2:


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Re: I'm kinda entertaining the thought to quit dissociatives [Re: Amanita86] * 8
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After walking through a desert a man finds a well, he quenches his thirst and its saves him.

The man learns the importance of survival and of the beauty of water.

The man though hydrated returns every day until the well is near empty and the water becomes tepid.

The man learns to wait until he is thirsty and lets the well replenish.


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Re: I'm kinda entertaining the thought to quit dissociatives [Re: pineninja] * 1
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pineninja said:
After walking through a desert a man finds a well, he quenches his thirst and its saves him.

The man learns the importance of survival and of the beauty of water.

The man though hydrated returns every day until the well is near empty and the water becomes tepid.

The man learns to wait until he is thirsty and lets the well replenish.


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Re: I'm kinda entertaining the thought to quit dissociatives [Re: Masked]
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When I look back at the sand and there's one set of foot prints, it's because those where the times that Methoxetamine was carrying me.

Jk, i don't know what that is. Lol or whatever.


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Re: I'm kinda entertaining the thought to quit dissociatives [Re: Masked] * 1
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I feel the same way man.

About the whole mastery of consciousness.

I quit pot over a year ago and with it i stopped doing kratom. Opiates. Daily use of xanax.

For quite a while there was a period where i was so with it i felt like the world was moving around me and for me. Like the world was going 10 mph and i was going 5 mph. I could make situations go my way just by not being too attatched to anything especially emotions. Socially i could identify other peoples hang ups and internal bullshit just because i was so free from my own bullshit.

But over time i got loose. Said shit to myself like alright well im here now and everything's great, lets have a drink.      One drink turned into more and i never got out of control but alcohol. Spending money etc. just dumb little breaks in my strict control over my dopamine system it broke down the control i had over my mind and i didnt even realize it while i was doing it to myself.  The mind is crazy like that. Always isolating itself from things going on as a result of itself. Idk if that makes sense. Its like “yeah i can do this unhealthy thing because ive done all this good shit” but the consequences are externalized.  And the addctive ruts carved out in the mind from the past are ignored...we fall right back into them cause we dont identify with the person who had the issues anymore we thinkwe can get away with it

Idk. Im prob not making sense but yeah. Sobriety reveals things to you about how the mind works for sure

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Re: I'm kinda entertaining the thought to quit dissociatives [Re: Asante] * 2
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meditation may have less glamour, but it is a much more surefooted path imo

cultivating the heart, attuning the mind, seeing the light - this doesn't need drugs of any kind. and any advancement you make while sober I feel will carry over to the rest of your sober life more than drug experiences do. :heart:


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Re: I'm kinda entertaining the thought to quit dissociatives [Re: deff] * 1
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I think you should eat mushrooms and figure out how to enjoy cannabis somehow and stay away from pcp or maybe ketamine if you really want it sounds a lot better than pcp plus trex said they are using ketamine for pain therapy now I don't see them doing that with pcp.


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Re: I'm kinda entertaining the thought to quit dissociatives [Re: PumpJackTeX]
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Actually they do use PCP for pain therapy.....for horses and cows.

But seriously Assante's PCP story was scary. I used that stuff frequently from 75-77. I really regret it. Once every 20 times it would be fantastic, but it was so unpredictable.


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Re: I'm kinda entertaining the thought to quit dissociatives [Re: Asante]
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Save it for a while, or if you don't trust yourself get rid of it or let a trusted friend hold it. If you want to nuke it. Just take a break for at least 6mos t0 a year and see how that goes.


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Re: I'm kinda entertaining the thought to quit dissociatives [Re: Asante]
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I think by this post you are confirming with yourself what you should do. I would focus on something different for a while.

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Re: I'm kinda entertaining the thought to quit dissociatives [Re: Fiery]
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Fiery said:
I think by this post you are confirming with yourself what you should do.


I was putting it out as much to myself as to the community, to get your reactions but also give it a greater reality level.

The idea takes on more root since, it seems.


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