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Offlinefrank_grimes
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Quitting Marijuana
    #1241543 - 01/23/03 04:05 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

First off, I decided to post in this forum because of the anti flaming and no personal attacks rules of this forum. That said, I am trying to give up smoking pot. Not for a drug test or anything like that, I just think it's taking a toll on my body. I quit smoking cigarettes about 7 years ago, gave up coffee about a year ago, and now it's time to drop yet another vice. My problem is insomnia, when I don't smoke, I don't sleep a wink. I can go for about 48 hours, and then I go to the city corner and get a dime bag. After I get home and smoke, I sleep like a baby. I just can't function without sleep, and that's why I always end up buying a dime after a couple of days, just to get some sleep. If i knew when the insomnia was going to end, I could tough it out, take some time off of work to get through it. Has anybody else quit smoking pot? If so, how long does the insomnia last? Does anybody have any tips to help me get some sleep without any intoxicating substances being put into my body? I exercise about 30-45 minutes a day, usually in the late morning, and I don't eat or read before trying to sleep. I know I can quit, if I can just get through the insomnia. I don't want to use any OTC, herbal, or perscription sleep aids, because I feel that I will start using that as a crutch. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

-Grimey


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Re: Quitting Marijuana [Re: frank_grimes]
    #1241558 - 01/23/03 04:14 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

First off, how much do you smoke? Everyday? If so, my friend found that everytime hes gotta quit for long periods, you gotta stay busy, find something you love to do to take up the time. Try new stuff too, like reading..... he never did it in high school, but after he had to quit weed, he started reading. As far as sleeping, that was impossiable for him too!!! So he just took like 3-4 benadril (for allergies) 45 min before he wanted to sleep, that helps a lot. After about 3-5 days he could basically sleep again. but every time he quit its cause he had something important to do, and had an ultimate goal, so i think that helps too..... he had a reason to quit. good luck.


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Re: Quitting Marijuana [Re: frank_grimes]
    #1241625 - 01/23/03 04:47 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Usually my insomnia lasts about 4-5 days....

I have found out that exerscising helps alot, since you consume your energy plus you help your body get rid of the substance in your veins.(by sweat)
Just try and exerscise in the evening or early night ,cos you need to have 2 meals in you at least,plus you won't feel so intense after that...

Some pure mountain-(relaxing) tea can help.

Having a real reason, as already mentioned by NSkiller, is essential for your success.

Its not a matter of luck, just descision.


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Re: Quitting Marijuana [Re: frank_grimes]
    #1241656 - 01/23/03 05:01 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

You won't need sleeping aids as a permanent crutch, take some anti-cholinergic like Dramamine or Benadryl for a few days after quitting pot, after a week you will be able to sleep just fine completely sober.

Think of sleep drugs as a trampoline.


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Re: Quitting Marijuana [Re: PjS]
    #1241670 - 01/23/03 05:10 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I'm glad the hear that sleep problems last for 5 days or so. That's not too bad, I hope that's all the time it takes for me to get back to a normal sleep patern. My goal is to clean out my lungs, I have developed a smokers cough. I have been filling my time with new things, I have begun using ACID (software, not drug) to make drum loops and stuff. I really enjoy it, and I since I don't sleep, I have plenty of time to work with it :smile:  I am going to move my exercise time up to the evening and see if that makes a difference for me. It's so weird how I bought into the whole "marijuana is not addictive" stuff, and here I am not able to sleep after quitting. Interesting. Thanks for your replies, they have really helped.

-Grimey 


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Re: Quitting Marijuana [Re: frank_grimes]
    #1242310 - 01/23/03 09:36 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

ACID is your new drug of choice, use it wisely!  :grin:  :grin:
Seriously, a hobby like that is GREAT way to channel your energy. 


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Re: Quitting Marijuana [Re: frank_grimes]
    #1242322 - 01/23/03 09:41 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

i just cut down to 3 days a week for my cardio, thats a good first step!


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Re: Quitting Marijuana [Re: frank_grimes]
    #1242595 - 01/23/03 11:34 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

If you want to clean out your lungs, start running or jogging every day. You'll burn off the energy and that will surely clear out your lungs and make you more healthy. I would be jogging now but it's below zero degress outside and I won't dare step foot outside for even a minute.


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Re: Quitting Marijuana [Re: ]
    #1242680 - 01/23/03 12:24 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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If you want to clean out your lungs, start running or jogging every day. You'll burn off the energy and that will surely clear out your lungs and make you more healthy. I would be jogging now but it's below zero degress outside and I won't dare step foot outside for even a minute.




Below zero? I wish it was only below zero here in Montreal!

Two days ago, it was -41 celsius with the wind factor. -26 without.


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Re: Quitting Marijuana [Re: frank_grimes]
    #1243177 - 01/23/03 03:08 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I know where your coming from man. I just finished smoking pot everyday, for the most part, for over a year(and before that it was like once a month)...and two days ago, I finished what I had left, and decided to quit. I am quitting! haha

Insomnia is a BIG problem. Last night, I didn't fall asleep until around 7am...and even then, it was just a light sleep(I kept waking up everynow and than)...and than I woke up at 11am.

I'm also against using any 'crutches'. I have a gameplan. It will work most likely(i'm hoping)

-exercise
-eat more healthy, more fruits, greens, etc
-try and keep busy as much as possible
-read at least once a day

I haven't had any problems except for being in a bit more volitile(sp?) mood, and the insomnia.

Good luck, and hope it all works well with you


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Re: Quitting Marijuana [Re: frank_grimes]
    #1243231 - 01/23/03 03:26 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

yeah tell me about it I find it hard to sleep without pot,

try reading in bed i find that is the only thing that helps me


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Re: Quitting Marijuana [Re: NSKiller]
    #1243311 - 01/23/03 04:01 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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Try new stuff too, like reading.....




HAhahahahahAHahahahaha, I agree with that reading is good, makes you smarter and you'll learn a lot more rather than watching a movie. Most of the time books are better and tell more than a movie does.

I take it you're into drugs so get THE BOOK (not the movie) Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas by Hunter S. Thompson believe it or not, it was a true story!!
I liked it a lot, it was actually fun to read.

Dilauded


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Re: Quitting Marijuana [Re: frank_grimes]
    #1243318 - 01/23/03 04:02 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Hey wait just a second Grimey... you electrocuted yourself..I saw the whole thing.. saw them bury you and everything. If your dead quitting pot isn't going to help much, just keep on toking. If you're a reincarnated Grimey I suggest to keep smoking pot forever, but take breaks every once in a while.


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Re: Quitting Marijuana [Re: Shroomism]
    #1243525 - 01/23/03 05:01 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I usually take about a week to get over being a total ass. Usually just to my wife who is a natural ass


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Re: Quitting Marijuana [Re: frank_grimes]
    #1244568 - 01/24/03 02:12 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

This worked for me:
Make some Tom & Jerry strawberry flavour hash-cakes, make sure you put a good 1/4 in, after all you are making 12 cup-cakes. Bake & allow to cool. Eat 5 of them one after another! Get very dizzy and dis-orientated. Puke violently non-stop for about an hour until all the muscles in your neck and torso are throbbing with pain due to the wretching. Then pass out. When you wake up the following day you may still feel nauseous, just sip some water and slowly eat an orange.

Hey presto, I now no longer want to go near Marijuana of any description! I even gave my last 1/2 oz to my Dad!


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Re: Quitting Marijuana [Re: Jackal]
    #1244581 - 01/24/03 02:27 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

WTF LOL  :grin:

acid's fun :smile:  but excercising before bed is not a good idea.  Try doing it several hours before bed.


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Re: Quitting Marijuana [Re: ]
    #1244722 - 01/24/03 04:45 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

jerk off 2 or 3 times before you go to bed,

that usually works!!

cg


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Re: Quitting Marijuana [Re: Curious_George]
    #1245621 - 01/24/03 10:51 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Ding Ding Ding.  We have a winner for best advice in this thread ^^^^^^.  Curious George, you should be a drug councelor. :grin:


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Re: Quitting Marijuana [Re: frank_grimes]
    #1246481 - 01/24/03 05:06 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

i've been a daly smoker for about 3 years now, i just had to take a break and i did not have any withdrawl at all, i slept fine and everything was normal, the only thing was that i was bored, that and for some reason when i smoke for too long i feel myself getting slower (not by alot) but when i quite i become a fucken ideot for about 3 weeks, than i am back to what i was before i stared smoking weed......bill gates


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Re: Quitting Marijuana [Re: ]
    #1246868 - 01/25/03 12:03 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

bill gates is a stupid motherfuc.ker :wink:


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Re: Quitting Marijuana [Re: frank_grimes]
    #1246878 - 01/25/03 12:06 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

For me and everyone I know who has quit it was due to one of two reasons..

1. They had some life changing event like a chid or a good job come along and they quit because they matured into a new person..

2. They quit because they never really were much of a smoker in the first place..

I believe that smoking pot is A OK... Their is nothing wrong with it at all. Something will happen in your life some day and without even knowing that youve quit youll realize that you havnt smoked in over a year...

Untill then, if you smoke to sleep and you really have true insomnia then go ahead and continue with what your doing.. Here in California you can get a prescription for pot because of insomnia.

Quitting will come naturaly some day..


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Re: Quitting Marijuana [Re: GabbaDj]
    #1248688 - 01/25/03 06:29 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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Quitting will come naturaly some day.. 


Nooooooooooooooooooooo :grin:


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Re: Quitting Marijuana [Re: GabbaDj]
    #1251504 - 01/26/03 10:57 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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Here in California you can get a prescription for pot because of insomnia.



California, here I come!!!! :wink: 


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Re: Quitting Marijuana [Re: frank_grimes]
    #1251931 - 01/27/03 05:05 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

the only reason i may want to quit is just for the sake of quitting. I can't think of anything marijuana itself really detracts from my lifestyle. But it is something I keep going back for.


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Re: Quitting Marijuana [Re: Grav]
    #1254834 - 01/28/03 09:22 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I'm usually a daily toker. I use a one hitter mostly and have a few hits here n there throughout the day but do most my hits in the evening. Recently I ran out and haven't got any now for 2 weeks. I don't have any withdrawal symptoms when I take a "break" now n then. Last few days here Iv 'e felt high or in a daze. It's werid. Not sure if its from my anti acid medication since I'm usually always high and wouldn't knot ice the meds effects.

I know lots of ppl that just quit pot just for the sake of quitting. It has to be the easiest thing to quit if thats what you really want.



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Re: Quitting Marijuana [Re: Bavet]
    #1258998 - 01/29/03 02:31 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Quitting pot sux, it is hard for some of us, it could be because the people we are sorrounded or maybe our lifestyle.

I been a smoker for quit a time, i stopped cigarrettes for a time, planning on quitting again on those. Now i have stopped smoking pot sometimes, but it always come back. My main concerns of stopping is because health and money.

Now quitting something shouldnt be difficult if you want it, cause when i stopped smoking cigs i really wanted, and didnt touch a cig for 3 months. Now with pot should easier.


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Re: Quitting Marijuana [Re: learning_byte]
    #1259175 - 01/29/03 03:38 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

well...I officially quit a couple weeks ago...and I officially smoked pot again a couple days ago...;)

I'm never going to be able to quit. I don't really want to...but I do. lol

whatever *rolls joint*


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Re: Quitting Marijuana [Re: juicemonkey]
    #1259193 - 01/29/03 03:46 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Its all about having enough willpower.

(enough willpower to not get suckered into trying to quit)


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Re: Quitting Marijuana [Re: djfrog]
    #1259457 - 01/29/03 05:11 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

"quitting" seems like the wrong word to describe what you really want. Isn't it the "freedom" from having to smoke to sleep, or whatever, that is truely important?

Personally I used to smoke all the time with "Bob" the waterbong, of course. I loved being able to smoke tons of weed all day and still function. Now, I don't smoke much anymore because I usually get too fucking stoned and can't do shit but sit on my ass like a retard.

But the main point is that smoking weed is not bad, and doesn't need to be eliminated. In fact, smoking every once in a while lets you relax and put the things in your life into perspective. So don't try to quit, smoke if you have to. It takes time to get back the control and freedom you desire. Like growin shrooms, "all you need is just a little patience" (G'N'R)!


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Re: Quitting Marijuana [Re: ClosetCase]
    #1259510 - 01/29/03 05:36 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

yah..well smoking doesn't relax me

It used to

I love it how everyone says "smoke a bowl..it will relax you"

Nope...does the opposite

But it's still something I manage to enjoy


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Re: Quitting Marijuana [Re: juicemonkey]
    #1259535 - 01/29/03 05:44 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

im quiting smoking bud too. today is day too, and i tell you what. IT SUCKS. ive been smoking ciggs out the ass too. ughhh. im only doin it to clear my head, and get my tolerance back down though.


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Re: Quitting Marijuana [Re: frank_grimes]
    #1269872 - 02/02/03 02:27 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

i love to smoke pot. i've stopped smoking for periods as long as two years, but always start again. when i wasn't smoking weed i'd start smoking cigs and vice versa. i just need to smoke something...i think it's some kind of hand mouth oral fixation thing. i'd recommend looking for an all natural smoking blend with the lowest amount of tar/carcinogens. i know you don't want a new crutch, but this can help when you need that relaxing smoking feeling. i smoke a little salvia here and there, in small amounts it doesn't do much, but at least i'm not taking huge bong hits of tar or smoking all the synthetic crap in cigs.


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Re: Quitting Marijuana [Re: minusrestraint]
    #1269942 - 02/02/03 04:21 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

imo, if you're really suffering from not smoking for just a couple days, then you definately need to cut down cuz you are heavily addicted and it's probably gonna take alot of enjoyment out of your life if you dont balance yourself.


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Re: Quitting Marijuana [Re: minusrestraint]
    #1270208 - 02/02/03 07:35 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

That's a good idea...
I want to get my tolerance back down so I actually get high again, but I just end up replacing the bud with cigarettes.
Which sucks kuz I want to quit smoking, and when I can't smoke cigarettes I replace them with weed (thus why my tolerance is through the roof).

Nicotine withdrawl results in extremely problematic outbursts of manic and undirected anger in me. Anyone got any suggestions to help me get g-dubya... I mean this monkey off my back?!


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