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Re: Don't boil your mushrooms for too long [Re: CapnCook2]
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Sheesh, man. You boiled them for 2 hours? Well...live and learn I guess.


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Re: Don't boil your mushrooms for too long [Re: Rnasty]
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Rnasty said:
That's what my shroom guy said too, I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong but my first 5 trips were all tea and maaaaaybe got me to a level 2. Same with my wife. They ranged from 1.5g - 3.5g and all felt very similar, pretty underwhelming.

We both gave up on tea quite a long time ago and just eat them now. Eating them has always produced MUCH greater results for us. I wish I could make a good tea. I follow the recipes and people talk about it like it's easy but I can't get it to work. Sucks because sometimes I don't want to set aside a whole day to trip.




What recipe are you using to make the tea?
Are you chopping your shrooms up into TINY pieces when making tea?

Also you’re not dosing high enough?  1.5g?  I had some tea a couple weeks ago and dosed 13g


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Re: Don't boil your mushrooms for too long [Re: DustyBottoms]
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How much would you say breaking them up helps with making tea? Last time I didn't break them up that well. I put the shrooms in a coffee filter with a twist tie and threw them in then braught to a boil for 20 minutes and they felt weak. Then same batch my microdoses hit me hard


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Re: Don't boil your mushrooms for too long [Re: ichugwindex]
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You have to almost grind them up, I use a coffee grinder, or soak them for a really long time if you don't grind them.


Here is my method
Grind dried shooms and add to glass
Squirt with lemon juice
Pour some boiling water over them and stir for a few minutes
Drink the whole thing

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Re: Don't boil your mushrooms for too long [Re: Lophosaurus]
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That's pretty much exactly what I said after others said the same except without filtering the shrooms, which is the whole point.

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Re: Don't boil your mushrooms for too long [Re: CapnCook2] * 1
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The freezing them fresh actually ruined them, and then the boiling. NEVER freeze fresh mushrooms, active or not.


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Re: Don't boil your mushrooms for too long [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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tyrannicalrex said:
The freezing them fresh actually ruined them, and then the boiling. NEVER freeze fresh mushrooms, active or not.



Actually if your gonna make tea with them you can freeze fresh mushrooms, thats how alot of people did it in the 70's and the tea was still very much active


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Re: Don't boil your mushrooms for too long [Re: tacodude]
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tacodude said:
That's pretty much exactly what I said after others said the same except without filtering the shrooms, which is the whole point.



The point of making tea for me isn't to filter out the solids. I make tea because I can add lemon to it and I find that it kicks in much faster and harder and it also wears off quicker which are all benefits to me. I swallow the mushrooms too just to make sure I'm not wasting anything.

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Re: Don't boil your mushrooms for too long [Re: Lophosaurus]
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If you have an efficient enough method all the actives should extract easily

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Re: Don't boil your mushrooms for too long [Re: tacodude]
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I usually just eat them but tea can be nice as well, maybe even a different kind of trip.  Tea will have you coming up faster and coming down faster too.  In my experience fresh lemon juice absolutely potentiates the effects of the shrooms, if that is your goal then add that. You don't have to boil shrooms for a good tea, but get the water hot and make the surface area:volume ratio high for the shrooms before adding them to your hot water, but not for hours, jeebus lol. Just use enough water you can comfortably drink, don't worry about reducing volume.  This shouldn't need to be complicated. You can eat the shroom dregs for maximal potency but if you aren't using enough shrooms to question if you've had enough you aren't really tripping :lol:


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Re: Don't boil your mushrooms for too long [Re: MorphinTime]
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You mean if you haven't eaten so much you don't have to ask if you've had enough

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Re: Don't boil your mushrooms for too long [Re: tacodude]
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I meant what I said actually.

Edit:  I don't disagree with your post though :lol:

Edited by MorphinTime (01/29/19 01:36 AM)

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Re: Don't boil your mushrooms for too long [Re: DnDRnD]
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DnDRnD said:
tyrannicalrex said:
The freezing them fresh actually ruined them, and then the boiling. NEVER freeze fresh mushrooms, active or not.



Actually if your gonna make tea with them you can freeze fresh mushrooms, thats how alot of people did it in the 70's and the tea was still very much active



Once dry, simply place them in a plastic zip lock bag and put them in your freezer. Frozen mushrooms and truffles can be stored pretty much indefinitely. IMPORTANT: Never freeze fresh magic mushrooms and truffles, this will destroy their internal cell membrane structure, greatly diminishing potency.

https://www.google.com/search?q=does+freezing+fresh+active+mushrooms+ruin+them&rlz=1C1NHXL_enUS728US728&oq=does+freezing+fresh+active+mushrooms+ruin+them&aqs=chrome..69i57.12454j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


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Re: Don't boil your mushrooms for too long [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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The link says nothing about frozen shrooms losing potency?


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Re: Don't boil your mushrooms for too long [Re: DnDRnD]
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All mushroom cell walls get destroyed by freezing. If you're not planning on thawing them big fucking deal, you can boil them later they'll be fine. Then again there absolutely no point in ever freezing mushrooms, especially dry ones.


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Re: Don't boil your mushrooms for too long [Re: bodhisatta]
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I had a friend that froze fresh actives and they didn't work after they thawed. :shrug:


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Re: Don't boil your mushrooms for too long [Re: DnDRnD]
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The link is to my search "does freezing fresh mushrooms ruin them". Peruse at your own leisure. I have seen it ruin them. I have tried fresh frozen actives, it ruins the alkaloids.


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Re: Don't boil your mushrooms for too long [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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Well we just have to agree to disagree then because both me and bod have said it doesnt make a difference, they store psilocybin at near freezing temps in labs where they do studies on it


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Re: Don't boil your mushrooms for too long [Re: DnDRnD]
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Try an experiment with a grow sometime maybe.:shrug: If they are freezing just the drug then that seems OK. I just know from the one time I have had them and a friend had the same experience. He actually gave me the frozen ones to see if it was him not feeling it, I didn't feel them either. If you grow a lot try freezing a fresh dose worth. It really is the only way for you to see. If you do, please report back.:grin: I'm not arguing, just stating my experience, It's all good as the saying goes!


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Re: Don't boil your mushrooms for too long [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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tyrannicalrex said:
I had a friend that froze fresh actives and they didn't work after they thawed. :shrug:



Probably didn't work before hand then. A freezer wont ruin actives
tyrannicalrex said:
The link is to my search "does freezing fresh mushrooms ruin them". Peruse at your own leisure. I have seen it ruin them. I have tried fresh frozen actives, it ruins the alkaloids.



What a generic string of words to jam into google. Wait till it returns something you agree with and cite that one only.


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