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Re: diving into shiitake blocks. [Re: Mycolorado]
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40ft is too much.  A 12x8 shed will do 1000 5lb bags easy.  It's much better if you can find a 3or more hp boiler you wont have to worry as much about insulation on your container.  With a smaller electric steamer , even my 24kw electric boiler its hard to match the power of a gas powered boiler.


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Re: diving into shiitake blocks. [Re: drake89]
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I know 40 ft is a ton but he's only got so much to invest at the start and has these c units on the property and easy access to more. The question is what would it take to heat and how would the efficiency compare to a smaller, more insulated building.

    I'll look into those boilers. I've never heard of them before your post. The way i pasteurize sub is in a freezer that i got for free off of craigslist. I put a heating element in the bottom of a metal five gallon bucket and piped copper out of it and into the freezer. It's setup such that i can control the temperature in the freezer and it works like a charm. I figure the same principle would work in a larger container but it'd take forever to build temperature with that level of steam input. Seems like those boilers are just a more efficient way of producing steam.


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Re: diving into shiitake blocks. [Re: verum subsequentis]
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If you steam in a seacan you will eventually ruin it by melting the adhesive on the interior metal.  And the walls will peel off


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Re: diving into shiitake blocks. [Re: drake89]
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that makes sense.


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Re: diving into shiitake blocks. [Re: verum subsequentis]
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hey drake, I'm trying to do some math (not my best subject) and figure out how much it'll cost me to do sterilization runs. I have access to a ton of solar panels and just need to get a battery bank built up. Do you know how much electricity it takes you to do a run of ____ bags at ____ substrate per bag?


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Re: diving into shiitake blocks. [Re: verum subsequentis]
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Unless you can bank 400 or 500 kwh dont bother with electric


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Re: diving into shiitake blocks. [Re: drake89]
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aloha my brother

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Re: diving into shiitake blocks. [Re: sammaddog]
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What's up man. We're getting this figured.


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Re: diving into shiitake blocks. [Re: sammaddog]
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This is pretty cool.  Following for fun!

Not on topic but holy shit balls Verum!  The stacks of plates in your sig is incredible.


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Re: diving into shiitake blocks. [Re: SunnyDayze]
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aloha anybody have lots kawai wood here on maui any ideas if this wood work shittake sawdust blocks

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Re: diving into shiitake blocks. [Re: sammaddog]
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I think you mean kiawe. spell check must've screwed you on that one. i found this on wikipedia.

"Prosopis pallida is a species of mesquite tree. It has the common names kiawe[3] (in Hawaii), huarango (in its native South America) and American carob, as well as "bayahonda" (a generic term for Prosopis), "algarrobo pálido" (in some parts of Ecuador and Peru), and "algarrobo blanco" (usually used for Prosopis alba). It is a thorny legume, native to Colombia, Ecuador and Peru,[3] particularly drier areas near the coast."

the point being that is a species of mesquite tree. That makes me think it'd work but I'm just learning about shiitake.


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Re: diving into shiitake blocks. [Re: verum subsequentis]
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I had no clue that there are different strains of Shiitake. I just ordered a Shiitake LC Syringe too, I hope it's good.

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Re: diving into shiitake blocks. [Re: light4x]
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technically it'd be different varieties or substrains but yeah, there are a ton. Just like with cubes, if you germinate spores from a fruit you've created a new variety.

where'd you get the LC syringe from? The vendor undoubtedly knows what variety it is and probably lists it on the website.


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Re: diving into shiitake blocks. [Re: verum subsequentis]
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So, I don't really know if these are clean or not because i'm unfamiliar with the appearance of shiitake myc on agar. As far as i know it's normal for shiitake to thicken up after it gets hold of the substrate. Is that what i'm seeing on two of these plates?


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Re: diving into shiitake blocks. [Re: verum subsequentis]
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hey ,
greeting from ontario canada !

i cant give you much advice on growing shiitake ,going to be my first year but i can give you advice on making sure your with the right situation before building .

good luck ,

ps watch some yt,,

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Re: diving into shiitake blocks. [Re: verum subsequentis]
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verum subsequentis said:
So, I don't really know if these are clean or not because i'm unfamiliar with the appearance of shiitake myc on agar. As far as i know it's normal for shiitake to thicken up after it gets hold of the substrate. Is that what i'm seeing on two of these plates?



Holy shit, I actually have something to contribute for once!

Yes, Verum, you fuckin' noob that's exactly my shiitake looks like on agar.




How was that?

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Re: diving into shiitake blocks. [Re: Mr_Happyface]
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Fine, i guess. I'm not sure if you are serious or not though. Is your shiitake proven to be clean? Do you have pics of clean shiitake on agar to compare?


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Re: diving into shiitake blocks. [Re: verum subsequentis]
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Let it sit for a month it should thicken up and then turn brown


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Re: diving into shiitake blocks. [Re: drake89]
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There is no need for that is there? I know i'm supposed to do that with blocks but i can use the myc to start grain spawn before it does that, right? Does it look normal from what you can tell drake?


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Re: diving into shiitake blocks. [Re: verum subsequentis]
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verum subsequentis said:
Fine, i guess. I'm not sure if you are serious or not though. Is your shiitake proven to be clean? Do you have pics of clean shiitake on agar to compare?



Yeah, I'm joking. It looks exactly like the photo you have pictured, with slight concentric circles forming around where the wedge was placed. Only 2.

It was clean.


I just transferred to grain while it looked like that, worked fine. Myc grew super wispy, but actually changed the color of the oats as it aged, from tan to a light brown, then to white mostly at the ends of the oat. As soon as all had myc on it, I moved to sawdust. Didn't wait for it to turn white. It grows fairly slow though.

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