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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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The human mind is a muscle.
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Its become a pillar stone of my beliefs so here's a chance to crumble pillars.



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I am whatever Darwin needs me to be.


Edited by sudly (01/04/19 03:12 AM)

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Re: The human mind is a muscle. [Re: sudly]
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The contrivance of Order & Chaos as a unilateral standard permits a variance of opinion on the matter. That being the case the conviction of our ideas and the wellbeing we associate with security may very well be of a transient nature. If this is true then how might we rephrase the following:

sudly said:
I once had a psychiatrist tell me that in order to have a disorder you need to be disordered and you are not that, since then I haven't thought of myself as having any sort of mental illness.


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Re: The human mind is a muscle. [Re: Buster_Brown]
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I am reading this one for now
https://www.cell.com/trends/cognitive-sciences/pdf/S1364-6613(13)00122-8.pdf

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Re: The human mind is a muscle. [Re: sudly]
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sudly said:
Its become a pillar stone of my beliefs so here's a chance to crumble pillars.



Maybe your beliefs are muscle bound?
Then again who knows, ...
Maybe you can sell the idea somewhere?

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Re: The human mind is a muscle. [Re: redgreenvines]
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Very nice! Will be reading through shortly.


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Re: The human mind is a muscle. [Re: Buster_Brown]
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Buster_Brown said:
The contrivance of Order & Chaos as a unilateral standard permits a variance of opinion on the matter. That being the case the conviction of our ideas and the wellbeing we associate with security may very well be of a transient nature. If this is true then how might we rephrase the following:

sudly said:
I once had a psychiatrist tell me that, "in order to have a disorder you need to be disordered and you are not that", since then I haven't thought of myself as having any sort of mental illness.



Honestly I don't know what you mean. So quotation marks maybe?


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Re: The human mind is a muscle. [Re: sudly]
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sudly said:
Honestly I don't know what you mean. So quotation marks maybe?


OK; I'll try a different tack in this attempt to change/strengthen your mental muscle...

Disregarding sensory input, as a means of maintaining equilibrium, could be the mark of a stoic and steadfast constitution. Adding the criterion of honesty however adds an unnecessary complication to the poise.

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Re: The human mind is a muscle. [Re: Buster_Brown] * 1
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hmm,
I would say, to exercise this muscle, regard everything, but keep your seat for a duration:
do observe sensory input(, including odd seeming bits and pieces - between the frames of perception).
in addition, neither indulge nor avoid perceptions and ideas within the observing practice.


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Re: The human mind is a muscle. [Re: redgreenvines]
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redgreenvines said:
do observe sensory input(, including odd seeming bits and pieces - between the frames of perception).



Well I'm not going to observe the language in that scholarly article of yours.

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Re: The human mind is a muscle. [Re: Buster_Brown]
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Buster_Brown said:
redgreenvines said:
do observe sensory input(, including odd seeming bits and pieces - between the frames of perception).



Well I'm not going to observe the language in that scholarly article of yours.


did you just reflect back a non-observation?


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Re: The human mind is a muscle. [Re: redgreenvines]
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redgreenvines said:
regard everything,


Everything?

The horror, the horror

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Re: The human mind is a muscle. [Re: Buster_Brown]
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if it is there, yes, observe
if you invoke it, that too, observe
prompted and not prompted phenomena


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Re: The human mind is a muscle. [Re: Buster_Brown]
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Buster_Brown said:
sudly said:
Honestly I don't know what you mean. So quotation marks maybe?


OK; I'll try a different tack in this attempt to change/strengthen your mental muscle...

Disregarding sensory input, as a means of maintaining equilibrium, could be the mark of a stoic and steadfast constitution. Adding the criterion of honesty however adds an unnecessary complication to the poise.


I like the idea of maintaining equilibrium be it through the possibility of stoic and steadfast constitution. Though the disregard of sensory input doesn’t sit well with me, or at least it isn’t clear how they relate.


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Re: The human mind is a muscle. [Re: sudly]
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sudly said:
I like the idea of maintaining equilibrium be it through the possibility of stoic and steadfast constitution. Though the disregard of sensory input doesn’t sit well with me, or at least it isn’t clear how they relate.


Morals can be an example here e.g. Mary spurned his advances on moral grounds despite the quickening of her senses.

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Re: The human mind is a muscle. [Re: Buster_Brown]
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it is an archaic turn of phrase but that just makes the argument pertinent to an historical period.


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Re: The human mind is a muscle. [Re: redgreenvines]
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redgreenvines said:
it is an archaic turn of phrase but that just makes the argument pertinent to an historical period.


In her defense we at least can't attribute these words to her: "Honestly, I don't know what you're talking about."

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Re: The human mind is a muscle. [Re: Buster_Brown]
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Okay, so you're saying that morals (however they are attained or maintained), are useful in enduring hardships and governing behaviour.

I don't disagree, and I don't see how you disagree.

To me you're like a riddler, you make a riddle of words that doesn't have a clear understanding and then when questioned, you align it with whatever suits. It's okay but I don't think it makes a point, at least not in regard to this thread.


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Re: The human mind is a muscle. [Re: sudly]
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I used morals as an example of stoicism and steadfastness. A derivative pertaining to the topic on hand, mental aberration, and personal aptitude, is that no matter how informed/intelligent the premise is, it cannot be fortified with dissimulation.

Edited by Buster_Brown (01/11/19 02:23 AM)

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Re: The human mind is a muscle. [Re: Buster_Brown]
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Personal aptitude is developed, maintained and matured.

Where is the mental aberration though, and what the hell is being hidden?


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Re: The human mind is a muscle. [Re: sudly]
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Dissimulation synonyms:
pretense, dissembling, misrepresentation, deceit, dishonesty, duplicity, lying, guile, subterfuge, feigning, falsification, shamming, faking, bluff, bluffing, counterfeiting, posturing, hypocrisy, double-dealing

You are assuming a position of authority, for the sake of argument, in defense of Democratic socialism and a progressive agenda.

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