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had a debate with ultra-leftist, why are my views deplorable?
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so someone deleted me off facebook because im pro-choice for everyone else, but for myself and my own children im pro-life which means i want to be responsible and avoid having to kill my own child if i can help it.

anyways this person is creating an echo chamber admittedly and its only keeping around ultra leftist people.
can someone please educate me on why im wrong. i asked them to do this because im not emotionally attached to my arguments and dont mind changing them but apparently im deplorable beyond repair.

thoughts?






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Re: had a debate with ultra-leftist, why are my views deplorable? [Re: SleepyE]
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SleepyE said:
so someone deleted me off facebook because im pro-choice for everyone else, but for myself and my own children im pro-life which means i want to be responsible and avoid having to kill my own child if i can help it.
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can someone please educate me on why im wrong. ...


If you get a woman pregnant and she decides to abort
are you pro-choice for her
or do you consider her the murderer of your children?

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Re: had a debate with ultra-leftist, why are my views deplorable? [Re: Tantrika]
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id still be pro-choice, i would just try to convince them otherwise. legally i have no say and i accept that. if you want to abort then there is nothing i can do, but i dont have to like the idea


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Re: had a debate with ultra-leftist, why are my views deplorable? [Re: Tantrika] * 2
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Calling abortion murder isn’t a good look.


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Re: had a debate with ultra-leftist, why are my views deplorable? [Re: SleepyE] * 5
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I’m what is generally considered left-leaning, but those people you were talking to seem like fringe-left, aka crazy people.  They look like they spend a lot of time on Tumblr.  Don’t read too deep into that exchange, those people just seem like nuts.  There’s no more explanation to it than that.

As an aside, i consider arguing politics and personal ethics on Facebook to be a masochistic practice.  You do what you like, though.

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Re: had a debate with ultra-leftist, why are my views deplorable? [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefSupremeJr said:
Calling abortion murder isn’t a good look.


i suppose, though can someone explain to me why its different? other than its not fully formed then


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Re: had a debate with ultra-leftist, why are my views deplorable? [Re: Burke Dennings]
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Burke Dennings said:
I’m what is generally considered left-leaning, but those people you were talking to seem like fringe-left, aka crazy people.  They look like they spend a lot of time on Tumblr.  Don’t read too deep into that exchange, those people just seem like nuts.  There’s no more explanation to it than that.

As an aside, i consider arguing politics and personal ethics on Facebook to be a masochistic practice.  You do what you like, though.


they definitely are the tumblr type. extremists. but im willing to consider that i might be wrong anyways. i just want to be educated.;


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Re: had a debate with ultra-leftist, why are my views deplorable? [Re: SleepyE]
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SleepyE said:
BeefSupremeJr said:
Calling abortion murder isn’t a good look.


i suppose, though can someone explain to me why its different? other than its not fully formed then


It's not sentient.
It's a tumor in the mother
It has no rights as it's not a citizen of any country or the world
Men like not having kids and we run the show.

Take your pick.


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Re: had a debate with ultra-leftist, why are my views deplorable? [Re: SleepyE]
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SleepyE said:
BeefSupremeJr said:
Calling abortion murder isn’t a good look.


i suppose, though can someone explain to me why its different? other than its not fully formed then



Nope.  Neither science nor philosophy can define what life is, so I won’t be able to define what it isn’t.

It’s just paints you as a religious zealot when you call it murder.  Makes you seem like a dick who doesn’t care about women’s rights. 

I know you’re not, I’m just saying.  It’s a good way to start a senseless war. 

Don’t talk about that shit on social media.  Actually, don’t talk about it at all unless you have to.


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Re: had a debate with ultra-leftist, why are my views deplorable? [Re: BeefExtreme]
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i really do care about womens rights thats why im willing to admit im not correct about this, just wanted to know why


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Edited by SleepyE (12/24/18 03:14 PM)

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Re: had a debate with ultra-leftist, why are my views deplorable? [Re: SleepyE]
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SleepyE said:
id still be pro-choice, i would just try to convince them otherwise. legally i have no say and i accept that. if you want to abort then there is nothing i can do, but i dont have to like the idea


Do not personally think you are in the wrong,
but this is prolly the "attitude" toward the issue that was off-putting to the individuals in your screen caps

Abortion is more directly a personal moral or ethical affair than a political/legal one; the fact that it is a hot-topic in the political sphere is a side issue

most people likely do not want to read someone on their friend's list effectively saying "I don't like that you're a murderer but it's not legal for me to oppose you so I won't"
:shrug:

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Re: had a debate with ultra-leftist, why are my views deplorable? [Re: Tantrika]
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Tantrika said:
most people likely do not want to read someone on their friend's list effectively saying "I don't like that you're a murderer but it's not legal for me to oppose you so I won't"
:shrug:


so guess because of how i expressed my thoughts they believe im more of a monster than really am. well i attempted to clear things up but it probably doesnt matter. i just hope people dont judge me poorly about this


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Re: had a debate with ultra-leftist, why are my views deplorable? [Re: SleepyE]
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Live and learn.


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Re: had a debate with ultra-leftist, why are my views deplorable? [Re: BeefExtreme]
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Those aren't allowed to be right. Ergo you're wrong. The fact that you are wrong and don't know it makes you crazy. The fact that your craziness has "VICTIMS" makes you criminally insane. And you're grabbing for the government.

Add me on Steam or Discord bro I like you.


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Re: had a debate with ultra-leftist, why are my views deplorable? [Re: st1llnox] * 3
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I think it’s time I ignored nox.  Bye dude.


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Re: had a debate with ultra-leftist, why are my views deplorable? [Re: Tantrika]
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Every couple of weeks i have to go out into my yard and cut the damn grass. It's annoying as fuck i just wanna play some video games.

Every couple of days i have to put up traps to kill these damned rodents in my house eatin up all my food

Sometimes humans do some stupid shit like litter and cause catastrophic accidents, ie oil spills into the ocean causing detrimental effects to wildlife igniting a chain reaction throughout the circle of life

What i like to do sometimes is take a seed from a tree and instead of planting it and propagating it to get abundant fruits to live off of i just throw these seeds into the fire and play video games all day

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Re: had a debate with ultra-leftist, why are my views deplorable? [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefSupremeJr said:
I think it’s time I ignored nox.  Bye dude.


Lol you registered while I banned myself and you ignored me? At least I'll get to see what you tell your pillow at night on here when you forget I won't ignore you.

Let me know if you'd like to average 2/3 out of 5 shrooms, but at that point I'll +5 you for uningoring me. See you then. I hope both of us develop more character betweeen now and then and I look forward to getting to know you.


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Re: had a debate with ultra-leftist, why are my views deplorable? [Re: st1llnox]
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That conversation didn't follow any kind of sematic logic unless you have over 20 years of prior experience arguing identity politics.

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Re: had a debate with ultra-leftist, why are my views deplorable? [Re: paradoxlost]
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paradoxlost said:
That conversation didn't follow any kind of sematic logic unless you have over 20 years of prior experience arguing identity politics.


elaborate?


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Re: had a debate with ultra-leftist, why are my views deplorable? [Re: King Klick]
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King Klick said:
SleepyE said:
BeefSupremeJr said:
Calling abortion murder isn’t a good look.


i suppose, though can someone explain to me why its different? other than its not fully formed then


It's not sentient.
It's a tumor in the mother
It has no rights as it's not a citizen of any country or the world
Men like not having kids and we run the show.

Take your pick.




just to play devil's advocate here:


do we know a living/developing fetus isn't sentient?





BeefSupremeJr said:
I think it’s time I ignored nox.  Bye dude.



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