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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: Enlil] * 2
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I think Democrats are better characterized as disingenuous, than stupid.

I guess I should correct myself though, Democrats did spend loads of money on fighter jet development, and foreign wars during Obama's presidency. They are not fiscally responsible. They are almost as bad.


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"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


Edited by Bigbadwooof (12/23/18 01:27 PM)

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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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2 sides of the same coin.  One or both of the majors needs to wither away and die, already.  It happens every so often.  We're due.

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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
2 sides of the same coin.  One or both of the majors needs to wither away and die, already.  It happens every so often.  We're due.



It could happen, though I doubt it would be replaced with anything remotely reasonable. I think, at this point, both parties need to be reborn. It has already begun. We are in an adjustment period. I hope that eventually we have two parties that are both the better for it.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


Edited by Bigbadwooof (12/23/18 04:48 PM)

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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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I wouldnt mind if the centrist dems became the new right wing, and we got a left of center party out of the deal.  Just sayin.

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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
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Bigbadwooof said:
ballsalsa said:
2 sides of the same coin.  One or both of the majors needs to wither away and die, already.  It happens every so often.  We're due.



It could happen, though I doubt it would be replaced with anything remotely reasonable. I think, at this point, both parties need to be reborn. It has already begun. We are in an adjustment period. I hope that eventually we have two parties that are both the better for it.



I think we need more than just two parties, that's a major part of the problem in the US. Everything is so black and white, there's many other perspectives that get zero attention.

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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: qman]
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Agreed

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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: ballsalsa]
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If we had more than two parties in our system, I think it would pave the way for some real fringe crazies to get a footing in Washington, and congress would grind to a halt. Our system is really designed to be a 2 party system.

Its not so simple as just having more options.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 3
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It would force coalition blocs if thats what you mean.  I don't see that as an inherently bad thing.  We already have fringe loonies in the government.  It would just force them to properly label themselves instead of using the D or R as cover

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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
It would force coalition blocs if thats what you mean.  I don't see that as an inherently bad thing.  We already have fringe loonies in the government.  It would just force them to properly label themselves instead of using the D or R as cover



:whathesaid:

Even the far-right and far-left parties in the EU form coalitions with the right and left centralist parties.

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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: qman] * 1
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😭 poor Donnie


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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
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Bigbadwooof said:
If we had more than two parties in our system, I think it would pave the way for some real fringe crazies to get a footing in Washington, and congress would grind to a halt. Our system is really designed to be a 2 party system.

Its not so simple as just having more options.



The electoral college enforces the two party system. You can’t win an election without winning a majority. A plurality doesn’t cut it


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: koods]
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koods said:


😭 poor Donnie



Typical self absorbed Tweet yet ironically fitting.
All alone in the White House... I thought that started 2 years ago??

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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: Stable Genius] * 2
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We need run off voting.

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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: krypto2000] * 1
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That too


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: Stable Genius]
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Stable Genius said:
koods said:


😭 poor Donnie



Typical self absorbed Tweet yet ironically fitting.
All alone in the White House... I thought that started 2 years ago??



I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t run again in 2020


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: koods]
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I get that feeling as well, and I would hazard a guess that every western world leader is hoping the same.
Just finished reading a New York Times article on his latest 4hr Tweet tirade, attacking Jim Matis, Brett McGurk, the Federal Reserve, declaring Saudi Arabia will finance the rebuilding of Syria... he’s unhinged and his knee jerk policy on the run approach is sending even more jitters around the globe.

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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: Stable Genius] * 2
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Trumps border wall failure is just reconfirming to me that he is completely and utterly inept at everything. There's a reason he always says he's the best at everything. It's because he's not even remotely good at anything. It's amusing as fuck watching him derail his own presidency but at the same time I kind of feel bad for all the Americans who didn't vote for Donald Jackass Trump


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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: sh4d0ws] * 1
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I can't see him not running in 2020. To not do so would admit defeat, something his ego can't handle, and the only reason he hasn't been indicted right now is because he's the president and has a platform to garner public support.

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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: sh4d0ws]
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sh4d0ws said:
Trumps border wall failure is just reconfirming to me that he is completely and utterly inept at everything. There's a reason he always says he's the best at everything. It's because he's not even remotely good at anything. It's amusing as fuck watching him derail his own presidency but at the same time I kind of feel bad for all the Americans who didn't vote for Donald Jackass Trump



I knew the guy was a tool but even I’m surprised by his level of incompetence


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: sh4d0ws]
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@sh4d0ws It’s like a slow moving train wreck that you can’t take your eyes off.
I feel worst for any families who have paid the ultimate sacrifice and now have to endure watching
him butcher the hard won gains around the world.

@krypto2000 yeah I take that point but politics clearly isn’t Trumps game, at all.
His self proclaimed superiority and belligerent ‘instant fix’ mentality just isn’t working for him in office

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