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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: Stable Genius] * 2
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koods said:
krypto2000 said:
We need run off voting.


That too


:hi5:
Anyone who doesn't support run off voting doesn't understand run off voting.


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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: Stable Genius]
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Stable Genius said:
Just finished reading a New York Times article on his latest 4hr Tweet tirade, attacking Jim Matis, Brett McGurk, the Federal Reserve, declaring Saudi Arabia will finance the rebuilding of Syria... he’s unhinged...


What's wrong with any of the things you just mentioned?  It's about time somebody criticizes endless war mongering.  :shrug:


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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Stable Genius said:
Just finished reading a New York Times article on his latest 4hr Tweet tirade, attacking Jim Matis, Brett McGurk, the Federal Reserve, declaring Saudi Arabia will finance the rebuilding of Syria... he’s unhinged...


What's wrong with any of the things you just mentioned?  It's about time somebody criticizes endless war mongering.  :shrug:


If Trump opposes something, it must be bad. Now we have anti-war liberals crying about bringing the troops back home, 'must support The Establishment agenda'.

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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: qman]
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:awesomenod:  :frown:


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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
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It’s  a five year old talking about geopolitics


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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
koods said:
krypto2000 said:
We need run off voting.


That too


:hi5:
Anyone who doesn't support run off voting doesn't understand run off voting.


Georgia and Louisiana do it. Instant run off is better but probably a harder sell


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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: koods]
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koods said:
It’s  a five year old talking about geopolitics


And an 'adult' criticizing steps being taking to end the warmongering.  :facepalm:


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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
Instant run off is better but probably a harder sell


It's a very hard sell because most people don't understand why it's such a good system.


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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Approximately 25% of the country is opposed to change, any sort of change, just because to them change is bad. It doesn't matter if it benefits them, they just want to keeo the ststus quo and are inherently opposed to anything new, different, etc. Idk what to do about those people, I hope one day they can be entirely disenfranchised and wiped off of the earth personally, I'd rather replace them all with syphilis, we'd be far better off.

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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: krypto2000]
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All change is bad, sometimes not changing is worse, and knowing the difference is wisdom


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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: krypto2000] * 1
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krypto2000 said:
Approximately 25% of the country is opposed to change, any sort of change, just because to them change is bad. It doesn't matter if it benefits them, they just want to keeo the ststus quo and are inherently opposed to anything new, different, etc. Idk what to do about those people, I hope one day they can be entirely disenfranchised and wiped off of the earth personally, I'd rather replace them all with syphilis, we'd be far better off.


Hillary said everything was already great in the US, so are her supporters the people you're referring to here?

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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: qman] * 1
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"Great" is relative. Compared to the majority of the rest of the world we are quite well off, definitely above the curve. You can always do better though, we shouldn't compare ourselves to others, we should compare ourselves to where we are, where we have come from, and where we can go.

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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: krypto2000]
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krypto2000 said:
"Great" is relative. Compared to the majority of the rest of the world we are quite well off, definitely above the curve. You can always do better though, we shouldn't compare ourselves to others, we should compare ourselves to where we are, where we have come from, and where we can go.


Correct, she said America doesn't need to be great again, because it's already great relative to the past.  So are her supporters the people you were referring too?

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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: qman]
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No.

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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: krypto2000]
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krypto2000 said:
No.


Why not, they're obviously the people that were the most resistant to changing the status quo?

So which people were you referring too?

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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: qman]
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I don't think that having a decent sized minority, which is opposed to change, is a bad thing. I really believe that it takes all kinds.


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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said:
I don't think that having a decent sized minority, which is opposed to change, is a bad thing. I really believe that it takes all kinds.


Many senior citizens in retirement with SS, medicare and a steady pension are very resistant to any political change.

Many wanted to vote for Trump, but calculated Hillary would be the safer bet for maintaining the status quo.

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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: qman] * 2
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Being opposed to change in itself isn't bad, we all appreciate stability, but being opposed to change in the face of facts or a changing reality is incredibly detrimental.

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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Stable Genius said:
Just finished reading a New York Times article on his latest 4hr Tweet tirade, attacking Jim Matis, Brett McGurk, the Federal Reserve, declaring Saudi Arabia will finance the rebuilding of Syria... he’s unhinged...


What's wrong with any of the things you just mentioned?  It's about time somebody criticizes endless war mongering.  :shrug:


Man there would be nothing better than ending the senseless violence in the Middle East, I totally agree.

Mattis though had 4 decades of experience, his advice was invalueable, so too was McGurks sensitive dealings with Iran.
The allies on the ground in Syria were 'pushed under a bus' by Spanky McBonespurs tweet diplomacy. He talked about crooked Hillary putting military lives at risk, well he just eclipsed that by 1000
No one was advised, intelligence ignored(probably not even read, too much golf to play).

As for the Fed Reserve, if Trump had any idea how the stock market worked he would know that a president SHOULD NOT open his big yap in relation to their monetary policy.
My guess is his only knowledge of the stock market comes from insider trading with his obnoxious buddies.

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Re: The Trump shutdown [Re: Stable Genius] * 2
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Stable Genius said:
Mattis though had 4 decades of experience, his advice was invalueable, so too was McGurks sensitive dealings with Iran.
The allies on the ground in Syria were 'pushed under a bus' by Spanky McBonespurs tweet diplomacy. He talked about crooked Hillary putting military lives at risk, well he just eclipsed that by 1000
No one was advised, intelligence ignored(probably not even read, too much golf to play).


Are you joking?  Do you believe they actually had a plan for making things better in Syria?  That this time things would turn out better than Iraq, Libya, or Afghanistan?


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