Phegnomeanon said:

This shutdown is indicative of the failure of the system at large and isn’t “owned” by anyone

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Mycolorado said:

What does that have to do with my statement?

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koods said:

Phegnomeanon said:

This shutdown is indicative of the failure of the system at large and isn’t “owned” by anyone

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Wrong. It’s the failure of the moron in the white house who last week said he owned the shutdown. If you want the wall Mexico is going to pay for it. I’m tired of listening to cuckheld trump supporters about this issue. He said Mexico would pay for it.

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qman said:

koods said:

Phegnomeanon said:

This shutdown is indicative of the failure of the system at large and isn’t “owned” by anyone

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Wrong. It’s the failure of the moron in the white house who last week said he owned the shutdown. If you want the wall Mexico is going to pay for it. I’m tired of listening to cuckheld trump supporters about this issue. He said Mexico would pay for it.

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Most US citizens just want better border enforcement regardless of who pays for it.

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qman said:

Mycolorado said:

What does that have to do with my statement?

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You're suggesting border enforcement will lead to travel restrictions on US citizens, that's a ridiculous notion.

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koods said:

Mr_Happyface said:

I love how liberals are now reduced to arguing if WALLS are an effective means of keeping people out of places.

it's hilarious.

As if the wall will just be there by itself with nobody watching it.



Or they've never driven past a jail before.

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Lol I take it you’ve never been to the southern borderand habe no clue the scale of what we are taking about. You think a fucking moron like trump knows what he’s talking about?

Here’s migrwnts climbing those artistically designed steel slats trump wants

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Your old talking point is moot.

Again, Israel solved it's immigration problems with a wall.

Quote:

breaking ground in 2010, Israel completed the 242-km. (150-mile) fence in December 2013 at a cost of around $450 million. Whereas about 9,500 Africans crossed into Israel illegally in the first six months of 2012, less than three dozen did so in the first six months of 2013, at which time the major components of the barrier had been completed.

Illegal immigration through Sinai dropped to 11 cases in 2016 and 0 in 2017.

The fence also has dramatically reduced the smuggling of contraband into Israel and there have been no security breaches from Sinai since then

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Israels-border-walls-A-case-study-For-Trumps-mantra-574517/amp

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Ladders don't seem to be working!

koods said:

He should just move to mar-a-Lago for the rest of his term and play golf, the only thing he is good at.

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Hes not even a good golfer.

koods said:

The voters are getting what they want. No wall. That’s why they voted for Clinton.

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"Trump is not my president."

Sorry, but he is!

Mycolorado said:

qman said:

Mycolorado said:

What does that have to do with my statement?

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You're suggesting border enforcement will lead to travel restrictions on US citizens, that's a ridiculous notion.

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Is it?  Our rights our eroded every day.  A physical barrier is designed to keep people in as much as it is to keep people out.  As our country is systematically handed over to corporations, our police are militarized and our every action and eventually thought is monitored, yeah, walls are the last things we need.

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koods said:

Trump had a deal last year for wall funding. He blew it because he’s an incompetent fool and a loser.

Anyways the democrats are making sure the taxpayers don’t pay for his Mexican funded wall.

Do you not think he should keep his promises or are you a cuck?

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Yeah, for 25B.  Now we’re shut down and there is no funding.  But he’s deal-making genius.  I’m sure his policies are really helping folks in the poor rural counties that rely on things like pork and soy bean exports.  The wall will definitely ease that burden.