saythatagain said:

Yes, first of all I acknowledge that it's idiots like me that are giving this plant a bad name.

But damn, this is way worse than I expected. I was taking a of about eight grams white maeng da two to three times a day at my peak usage. Of course, that was after a few months of gradually increasing dosage.

Last couple weeks I've been consciously decreasing my dosage and do I feel terrible.
I'm now down to about four grams a day, and I can't ride in a car, walk, or do much of anything without vomiting. I feel like a pregnant woman. I went from shitting once a week max with tremendous difficulty to not being able to stop shitting.

I find the mental symptoms to go away pretty quickly, it's nothing compared to the physical icky feeling. My nerves are constantly overstimulated, my arms and legs feel like they're made of lead, I'm getting brain zaps, and I'm constantly anxious (guess that's a mental effect).

Moral of the story, don't take kratom daily at any dose.

On the bright side, Burroughs makes a lot more sense to me now.

Any tips to get through this? Non-kratom ways to reduce the symptoms?

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Dirty Dave said:

Everyone’s chemistry is different. My girlfriend can eat and eat and eat on the cocaine, but pretty much everyone else will not even have the idea of food.

Any suggestions on tapering down? I would like to get down to 3 - 4 grams 3 times a day. I’m already consuming magnesium every night before bed. Anything else that might help?

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I'm now down to about four grams a day, and I can't ride in a car, walk, or do much of anything without vomiting. I feel like a pregnant woman. I went from shitting once a week max with tremendous difficulty to not being able to stop shitting.

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