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Liz
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Withdrawals?
#5953367 - 08/11/06 09:46 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Has anyone ever gone through withdrawals from tramadol/ultram? How long do they last? Is it best to wean yourself down off of it, or stop taking it all together? Any words of advice would be greatly appreciated, as I feel like I am dying. Thanks
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Re: Withdrawals? [Re: Liz]
#5953383 - 08/11/06 09:57 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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In terms of comfort, weaning will always provide more than going cold turkey, but cold turkey is far more effective at breaking addictions, and I'd recommend it, painful as it may be.
The withdrawal only lasts a couple days at most, and low amounts of benzos or valerian or kava kava do help.
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Re: Withdrawals? [Re: Liz]
#5953569 - 08/11/06 11:31 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ultram has a SSRI structure...the withdrawal is real and lasts a while, depending on how much and how long you have used. Best just to quit cold turkey and suffer.
I maintained a weekly opiate habit with them for six years, been clean around three with some relapses but controlled ones. I don`t think I was ever a true junky, because I could go without opiates, they were just free and I figured what the hell.
Ultram definetly had the worst after-effects, I still feel off from them on some days, because their feeling of TRUE euphoria can make reality pale in contrast
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Re: Withdrawals? [Re: Organic]
#5953884 - 08/11/06 01:39 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks for the advice. I'm going to try to wean down off of it. I woke up this morning feeling like shit, because I "only" took 300mg, and it was early yesterday morning, so I guess it had worn off. I've probably been taking them for like a month straight, maybe up to like 900mg a day? I'm prescribed to it, so I figured it wasn't a big deal.
I have a job that I have to be at early in the mornings mon-fri that I don't have the luxury of being able to feel like shit at. I'm going to start with taking 200mg in the morning, 200mg at night, and then lessen it from there, so I can actually function.
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Re: Withdrawals? [Re: Liz]
#5953979 - 08/11/06 02:13 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm prescribed to it, so I figured it wasn't a big deal.
Come on, Liz...you're smart enough to know better than that.
Good luck getting through this. I'm sure you can do it.
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Re: Withdrawals? [Re: Liz]
#5953991 - 08/11/06 02:19 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Good luck Liz, hope you feel better soon. From what I hear opiate withdrawal is hell. Just stick it out cold turkey. From the pain will come pleasure.
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Re: Withdrawals? [Re: Liz]
#5954019 - 08/11/06 02:31 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Liz
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Re: Withdrawals? [Re: adrug]
#5954035 - 08/11/06 02:36 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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adrug said:
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I'm prescribed to it, so I figured it wasn't a big deal.
Come on, Liz...you're smart enough to know better than that.
Good luck getting through this. I'm sure you can do it.
Yeah, I know. I guess over time I just built up a NASTY tolerance to it, and took more, and more...
Eh. I'll see how weaning off of it goes. If that doesn't work, I'll quit my job, and go cold turkey, miserable, in my house. Let's hope the weaning off goes well
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Thanks Mattz and Randal.
Oh, and Randal, I just read your post in Physical and Mental Well Being. I'm still trying to come up with how to respond. But I will
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Re: Withdrawals? [Re: Liz]
#5954043 - 08/11/06 02:40 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Liz, your metaphorical balls are huge, and made of carbon steel. You'll be fine.
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Re: Withdrawals? [Re: Kid_Orgo]
#5954089 - 08/11/06 02:54 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I know I'll likely be ok. I wish I could say with any certainty that this wouldn't happen again in a few months though. The worst part is the insomnia that comes with the withdrawals. Being so tired, and yet wide awake, shaking in a cold sweat. Fucking misery at it's finest. Oh, and the complete lack of motivation to even move an inch is fun too. I had to be practically carried to the shower to rinse the cold sweat off.
Kids, don't do drugs.
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Re: Withdrawals? [Re: Liz]
#5954103 - 08/11/06 02:59 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well, I've gone through full blown opiate withdrawal from using heroin every day for 2 years straight. All I can say is it's absolutely unbearable pain. Hopefully your addiction is not bad enough for that to happen. The more mild withdrawals are usually manageable for the most part.. you can get through it. Just remember it could be a whole lot worse.
Get out while you can... the longer you stay addicted, the more severe it gets - and it does get a LOT worse.
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Re: Withdrawals? [Re: Liz]
#5954105 - 08/11/06 03:00 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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pharmies suck so good
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Re: Withdrawals? [Re: Liz]
#5954111 - 08/11/06 03:03 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quit now and stay quit. Opiate addiction is no joke. I've known heroin addicts and Oxy-Contin addicts. ...It is not a pretty sight.
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Corporal Kielbasa

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Ever watch a person OD?
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Re: Withdrawals? [Re: eris]
#5954150 - 08/11/06 03:21 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, I've never done heroin. I hope I never do. I've been taking pills for a long long time, and I've never had the urge to take it to that level. I'm hoping that this doesn't last all that long. Tramadol/Ultram isn't exactly an opiate, it's an opiod...but as Organic mentioned at towards the beginning of this post, it's also an SSRI, which means the withdrawals are SHITTY and last a while. I wish I knoew exactly how long. A weekend, a week? 2 weeks? It would seem a lot more manageable if I just knew exactly what I was in for. Like I said though, I'm going to try stepping it down little by little, and hoping the withdrawals aren't as bad. I don't think going from taking a many I was in a day to taking nothing is a very good idea.
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Corporal Kielbasa said: Ever watch a person OD?
No. My opiate encounters:
1. I had a friend and his girlfriend who were hooked on heroin. They would come over to my house and whine and mope about their lives. They had hundreds of red puncture marks all over their arms (disgusting). They knew I didn't like that shit, so they would quickly run out into my kitchen and shoot up in the hopes that I wouldn't find out. I knew what they were up to and every time they left I would disinfect my kitchen.
2. I took the friend from #1 to a methadone clinic for treatment. On the way back I look over and he's shooting up in my car. I then watch as he flings the needle out of the car window and into a residential neighborhood where children are running around and playing.
3. I had a friend who snorted Oxy's. He would snort all of them quickly and then go into withdrawals. He would start to sweat and he looked like he was going to die. I would have to run around looking for a percocet or a vicodin for him so that he could maybe sleep for a couple of hours. He would be like a zombie until he got his next 'script. Then he'd do it all over again.
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Re: Withdrawals? [Re: Liz]
#5954765 - 08/11/06 07:02 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dude i feel for you. Sometimes a fun scrip like that can be a double edged sward. You are strong, i know you can kick it.
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Re: Withdrawals? [Re: Liz]
#5956941 - 08/12/06 04:13 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Liz said:
 Kids, don't do drugs.
Too late.
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Quote:
RandalFlagg said:
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Corporal Kielbasa said: Ever watch a person OD?
No. My opiate encounters:
You need new friends.
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