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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
krypto2000 said:
Every time more evidence comes up you seem to try to dismiss it as evidence at all rather than argue the merits there of.

I swear if Putin shot someone on 5th avenue you would call a murder charge pure speculation because while it may look like he died from hemorrhaging at the site of the wound all other possibilities have yet to be ruled out and no one can track his final heart beat to the direct lack of blood. Besides, how do we know it was even Putin, maybe it was the Chinese or the DNC wearing a Putin mask and a Putin body suite :shrug:.


What's the best evidence we have so far that Trump colluded with Putin?

It's certainly nothing even remotely close to what you just described.  It's more like Putin was visiting the United States during that time, which is good enough for you guys.


What I just described is grossly exaggerated hyperbole. For me the most compelling evidence is the Trump tower meeting, the constant denials of talking to Russians which were back tracked, Trumps constant and unwarranted denial every time he opens his mouth, and his constant efforts of obstructing justice.

His unwarranted denials alone scream to me projection of guilt even without other evidence. If my friend came over right now and said, "Hey, whats up man? I have never looked at child porn in my life, I swear!" I would naturally question if he looked at child porn. Why else would he say that? Why such a need to convince me otherwise? If I am accused of something and I didn't actually do it I would deny it but only when it's brought up, I don't sign birthday cards with denials or add it into my shroomery signature.

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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: krypto2000]
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The fact that he is totally unable to criticize putin is another huge red flag. The Kremlin once called trump weak and trump didn’t say anything. Over and over putin does things that would be called out if it came from anyone else. (Except maybe Muhammad bin salman)

Why the hell did trump meet with putin alone behind closed doors, except for the translators? That is very suspicious.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (11/27/18 05:48 PM)

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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: koods]
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There are just so incredibly many red flags I can't understand why anyone does not think it should be investigated if they are neutral or honest. I definitely do not know with certainty whether he's guilty but I can't fathom how you could not at least be suspicious.

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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: krypto2000]
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Omg this video is nothing but russian propaganda for Assange. They will have you believe he's being tortured inside the embassy... He's free to leave whenever he wishes...

My favorite part is when the host says the Ecuadoreans are making assange do demeaning chores.



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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
Means: manafort knows sanctioned Russians, manafort knows assange. Manafort knows insiders in the Trumk campaign, manafort has campaign experience, manafort rented in trump tower.

Motive: manafort is broke and is in debt to parties whose wealth and businesses is being sanctioned. Trump wants to be buddies with putin. Assange wants to destroy hillary

Opportunity: Trump will be running against Clinton. Trump can help Russia and Russia can help trump.

I’m not saying this is exactly how it went down, but I think it’s close.


  Why does Assange want to destroy hillary?  HIllary already destroyed herself.


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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: starfire_xes]
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Because Hillary represents the ststus quo which Assange has a deep hatred for. I believe he was blinded by it so much that he would accept help from anyone to destroy it, even the ststus quo itself. Now he's stuck between a rock and Rusher thing.

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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: krypto2000]
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krypto2000 said:
For me the most compelling evidence is the Trump tower meeting


The fact that he was looking for dirt on Hillary means he colluded with Putin?  Hillary went to Russia seeking dirt on Trump too, did you know that?

krypto2000 said:
...the constant denials of talking to Russians which were back tracked


That's because we're in a new McCarthy era (see your own posts for evidence).  I don't defend lying, and people certainly should get in trouble for that.  But none of the things anyone lied about turned out to have anything to do with Putin collusion.

krypto2000 said:
...Trumps constant and unwarranted denial every time he opens his mouth, and his constant efforts of obstructing justice.


He wants the investigators to shit or get off the pot.  I don't blame him.  Find something or give up already.

krypto2000 said:
His unwarranted denials alone scream to me projection of guilt even without other evidence.


How do you know they are unwarranted?

krypto2000 said:
If I am accused of something and I didn't actually do it I would deny it but only when it's brought up, I don't sign birthday cards with denials or add it into my shroomery signature.


But he's being accused of Russia collusion every single day.


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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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He hasn’t been officially accused of anything. He should keep his mouth shut


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: koods]
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So you're saying the thousands of posts on this very topic was all just a big waste of time by the Trump haters?  I guess I can buy that.


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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Tough shit. He’s president. Did Obama endlessly defend himself against all the shit people were saying about him? No

Did Clinton respond to every twist and turn in the whitewater investigation? No.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Tough shit. He’s president. Did Obama endlessly defend himself against all the shit people were saying about him? No

Did Clinton respond to every twist and turn in the whitewater investigation? No.


Actually, yes.  You must not watch any Fox News.


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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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News is a waste of my consciousness because rarely is it ever new info!

Trump is a moron with severe emotional and intellectual defecits.  He's a babbling idiot that believes in anything that America's dumbest and trashiest people find interesting.


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"in sterquiliniis invenitur in stercore invenitur"

In filth it will be found in dung it will be found

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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Quote:
ut he's being accused of Russia collusion every single day.


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His lawyer just plead guilty to lying to investigators to protect trump . That’s what  criminals have criminal lawyers do . There was no reason for Cohen to risk his freedom and his family’s future if Trump isn’t guilty of something.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/11/29/politics/michael-cohen-guilty-plea-misleading-congress/index.html


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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: Psilynut2]
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It is a bit spicy, isn’t it?

Trump openly denied property involvement in Russia and now it looks as though he was lying. I wonder why? Surely he could have just been honest about it.

Then Cohen lied that about it too, apparently to help Trump. Now that Cohen is trouble he’s apparently doing everything he can to get a little less jail time. Reasonable enough, but if the information is spicy enough to make a difference then we should expect to see deeper implications?

The most interesting part is that this confirms some of the information on the Steele Dossier. hmmmm.


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Enjoy the process of your search without succumbing to the pressure of the result.

A Dorito is pizza, change my mind.

I’m sorry it had to be me.

Edited by christopera (11/29/18 11:15 AM)

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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: christopera]
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I wouldn’t be surprised if most of the stuff in the the Steele dossier is true . Not even the piss thing would surprise me at this point .


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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
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Psilynut2 said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
But he's being accused of Russia collusion every single day.


His lawyer just plead guilty to lying to investigators to protect trump . That’s what  criminals have criminal lawyers do . There was no reason for Cohen to risk his freedom and his family’s future if Trump isn’t guilty of something.


He is accused of lying about Trump wanting to do business in Russia, like thousands of Americans and American companies do.

As always, this has NOTHING to do with Trump colluding with Putin.


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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Why is he lying about normal business practices? Why are they always lying?


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: koods]
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Because they enjoy being slaves and the truth will make them free.


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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: Enlil]
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"....you are the wind beneath my wings."
  - Bete Midler


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“I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Why is he lying about normal business practices? Why are they always lying?


Because we're in another McCarthy era.

I don't approve of the lying, by the way, and I hate Trump and his team.


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