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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Have you considered that maybe McCarthy was actually right?

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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: krypto2000]
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krypto2000 said:
Have you considered that maybe McCarthy was actually right?


The US Supreme Court doesn't seem to think so.


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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Andrew McCarthy was one of the brat pack, right?


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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: Enlil]
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It’s hilarious that Trump complains about McCarthism since his best and probably only true friend was Roy Cohn... at least until Cohn got aids and trump abandoned him.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/theweek.com/speedreads-amp/617343/donald-trump-turned-back-closest-friend-when-heard-aids


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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
He is accused of lying about Trump wanting to do business in Russia, like thousands of Americans and American companies do.


That’s not really accurate . From my link .
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Thursday's revelations are potentially significant because they appear to show that Trump was engaged in business dealings with Russia in the midst of a campaign in which Moscow interfered to help elect him.


I’ve never done buisiness with Russia while they were interfering in our election  to get me elected President have you ? Who else out of the 1000s of people you are referring to  have been in this  particular situation besides Trump ?


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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: Psilynut2]
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Psilynut2 said:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
He is accused of lying about Trump wanting to do business in Russia, like thousands of Americans and American companies do.


That’s not really accurate . From my link .
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Thursday's revelations are potentially significant because they appear to show that Trump was engaged in business dealings with Russia in the midst of a campaign in which Moscow interfered to help elect him.



My statement is exactly accurate per your link.  Americans and American businesses didn't stop doing business with Russia just because we were in the midst of a Presidential campaign.  But I'll credit the mainstream media for tricking people yet again.

Psilynut2 said:
I’ve never done buisiness with Russia while they were interfering in our election  to get me elected President have you ? Who else out of the 1000s of people you are referring to  have been in this  particular situation besides Trump ?


My current company did business with Russia in the midst of the Presidential campaign, and I was part of that.


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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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I hate that it's Buzzfeed, but here we go.


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President Donald Trump’s company planned to give a $50 million penthouse at Trump Tower Moscow to Russian President Vladimir Putin as the company negotiated the luxury real estate development during the 2016 campaign, according to four people, one of them the originator of the plan.

Two US law enforcement officials told BuzzFeed News that Michael Cohen, Trump’s personal lawyer at the time, discussed the idea with a representative of Dmitry Peskov, Putin’s press secretary.



https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/anthonycormier/the-trump-organization-planned-to-give-vladimir-putin-the

Take it for what it is.


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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
krypto2000 said:
Have you considered that maybe McCarthy was actually right?


The US Supreme Court doesn't seem to think so.


That decision does not seem to imply that McCarthy was erong though, it essentially says it is not their place to actually pass such a judgement. That is to say they cannot question people about their political beliefs or positions unless it directly pertains to a legal matter.

I think the distinction however is mainly in the approach, which is where McCarthy was wrong, and not necessarily the underlying motivation for doing so. The inquiry should have been to who was working with the Russians to subvert our democracy, instead it became focused on who simply identified with or supported, in belief alone, their side.

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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: christopera]
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christopera said:
I hate that it's Buzzfeed, but here we go.


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President Donald Trump’s company planned to give a $50 million penthouse at Trump Tower Moscow to Russian President Vladimir Putin as the company negotiated the luxury real estate development during the 2016 campaign, according to four people, one of them the originator of the plan.

Two US law enforcement officials told BuzzFeed News that Michael Cohen, Trump’s personal lawyer at the time, discussed the idea with a representative of Dmitry Peskov, Putin’s press secretary.


Take it for what it is.


Trump probably would have loved to give Putin a penthouse - the property value of the rest of the penthouses would have skyrocketed, and Trump would have become famous in Russia where he could try to make even more money.  But Russia wasn't interested and the deal fizzled out.  No collusion.


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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: krypto2000]
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krypto2000 said:
The inquiry should have been to who was working with the Russians to subvert our democracy, instead it became focused on who simply identified with or supported, in belief alone, their side.


EXACTLY  :mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2:


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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: koods]
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koods said:
It’s hilarious that Trump complains about McCarthism since his best and probably only true friend was Roy Cohn... at least until Cohn got aids and trump abandoned him.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/theweek.com/speedreads-amp/617343/donald-trump-turned-back-closest-friend-when-heard-aids



Wow, Trump is a piece of garbage


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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Are you implying that is what Mueller is doing? If so can you give any support for that?

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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: krypto2000]
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Have any of you guys seen Active Measures? If not you should watch it.

Putin is a piece of shit and so is the whole Trump administration. This has long been in the works. Trump tower was a hot spot for Russian organized crime back in the day. The Russians bailed him out of his money troubles and now hes just a puppet put in place to make Western civilization more of a shit show than it already is.

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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Trump probably would have loved to give Putin a penthouse - the property value of the rest of the penthouses would have skyrocketed, and Trump would have become famous in Russia where he could try to make even more money.  But Russia wasn't interested and the deal fizzled out.  No collusion.



Given that Trump is a total fucking retard this only proves that he was trying to impress Putin. It's literally directed exclusively at Putin, nobody else.

Not much we can do about it. Let's wait and see where this takes us. I'm not convinced it will prove much more than Trump being a retard, something we all already agree on, but it's been fun to watch. The best part about it all is that Trump is so fucking dumb he will continue to send out tweets like they somehow prove him right.


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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: krypto2000]
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krypto2000 said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
krypto2000 said:
The inquiry should have been to who was working with the Russians to subvert our democracy, instead it became focused on who simply identified with or supported, in belief alone, their side.


EXACTLY  :mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2:


Are you implying that is what Mueller is doing? If so can you give any support for that?


No.  Mueller is definitely trying to find someone working with the Russians to subvert our democracy.  But since he can't find anyone, he'll take whatever he can get, like Russians posting to Facebook.


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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Why would he care though? I know I've asked this before, but I can't remember your answer and it just doesn't make sense to me. Whether Trump is guilty or not what reason does Mueller care? Do you not think he's an impartial investigstor?

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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: krypto2000]
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He cares because it is it his job to find something.  If he finds nothing, people will accuse him of not doing his job.


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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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That doesn't make much sense to me. Who are these people and why would he care what they think? An investigstors job isn't to find someone guilty, it's to find out what happened. A prosecutors job is to find them guilty.

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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: krypto2000]
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Exactly.  :mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2:


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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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You haven't demonstrated why he would want to find anyone guilty.

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