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The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign
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Well, it’s all coming together now.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/paul-manafort-held-secret-meetings-with-julian-assange-before-wikileaks-email-dump-report

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Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort met repeatedly in secret with Julian Assange in the years and the months immediately before WikiLeaks dumped hacked Democratic National Committee emails, according to a Tuesday morning report from The Guardian. Unnamed sources claim Manafort made trips to London’s Ecuadorian embassy in 2013—during which Ecuador’s intelligence agency has “Paul Manaford” (sic) listed as one of the embassy’s guests—2015, and the spring of 2016, when Manafort became a major figure on Trump’s campaign team.



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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: koods]
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Yes Trump loves Wikileaks.  Best friends with Russia for ever!

Lol


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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: koods] * 1
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Per your article, Wikileaks is betting a million dollars this never happened.  Even if it did, what would it prove?

Manafort did business in Ukraine.  So do hundreds of companies.  It means nothing with respect to collusion with Putin.


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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Sure trumps campaign manager met with the guy who leaked the emails. Nothing to see here. Lol.


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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Per your article, Wikileaks is betting a million dollars this never happened.  Even if it did, what would it prove?

Manafort did business in Ukraine.  So do hundreds of companies.  It means nothing with respect to collusion with Putin.


Not just a million dollars, also "its editors head." How does this bet have any credibility? It's literal hyperbole, there's not even room for ambiguity unless you think they're actuallybetting his life. This seems as credible as a school yard taunt, they might as well bet a billion trillion dollars ala dr evil.

"Even if it did happen" would further prove that the trump campsign conspired eith russis to hack and publicly release their opponents emails. Do you not see a problem with that if it were true?

Per the article manafort did not simply "go to Ukraine as hundreds of businesses do" either, we already know he went to ukrain, the article however claims that he went to the Ecuadorian embassy and them presumably lied about it. You can dispute that happened as we have no direct source at this time, but the guardian is willing to put their reputation on the line as well as face a defemation suite if it didn't.

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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: krypto2000]
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krypto2000 said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Per your article, Wikileaks is betting a million dollars this never happened.  Even if it did, what would it prove?


"Even if it did happen" would further prove that the trump campsign conspired eith russis to hack and publicly release their opponents emails. Do you not see a problem with that if it were true?


What makes you think that Russia had anything to do with the meetings, if they ever even happened?  Do you think the Russians gave the emails to Manafort to give to WikiLeaks???  That couldn't have happened because of the alleged timing (see below).

krypto2000 said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Manafort did business in Ukraine.  So do hundreds of companies.  It means nothing with respect to collusion with Putin.


Per the article manafort did not simply "go to Ukraine as hundreds of businesses do" either, we already know he went to ukrain, the article however claims that he went to the Ecuadorian embassy and them presumably lied about it. You can dispute that happened as we have no direct source at this time, but the guardian is willing to put their reputation on the line as well as face a defemation suite if it didn't.


The Guardian article says:  "Sources have said Manafort went to see Assange in 2013, 2015 and in spring 2016 – during the period when he was made a key figure in Trump’s push for the White House...  around March 2016".  So are we to believe that Manafort already knew that Russia was going to break into the DNC emails and find negative information that hadn't even been written yet?


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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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We were not there, so we can’t know what was discussed, but Jesus Christ dude Paul Manafort met with the guy responsible for leaking the emails Russia hacked, then got on a plane and flew to New York to become Donald trumps campaign manager. Why would an unemployed political consultant have any business with Wikileaks except the hacked emails for his soon-to-boss.

You have to admit it is extremely suspicious behavior.


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Edited by koods (11/27/18 02:44 PM)

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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: koods] * 2
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We don't know, this is speculation, but evidence is clearly mounting in that direction as it has been since the original claim was made. Every time more evidence comes up you seem to try to dismiss it as evidence at all rather than argue the merits there of.

I swear if Putin shot someone on 5th avenue you would call a murder charge pure speculation because while it may look like he died from hemorrhaging at the site of the wound all other possibilities have yet to be ruled out and no one can track his final heart beat to the direct lack of blood. Besides, how do we know it was even Putin, maybe it was the Chinese or the DNC wearing a Putin mask and a Putin body suite :shrug:.

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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: krypto2000]
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Ok, so we hate WikiLeaks now? Assange was the pale fighter of truth under Bush.


If he helped Trump he sure has a funny way of showing gratitude, the US has been absolutely chomping at the bit to place him under arrest with charges they've been fighting to keep sealed.

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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: Mr_Happyface]
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Julian Assange is a corrupt piece of shit


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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: koods]
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Well, we agree on something!


Although I don't like him, I do believe he's credible, and he has repeatedly said the leaks came from inside the DNC.

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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: Mr_Happyface]
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The special counsel has laid out how the Russians did it, and we know assange was trying to help the trump campaign. We’ve seen the messages.


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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: krypto2000]
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koods said:
Jesus Christ dude Paul Manafort met with the guy responsible for leaking the emails Russia hacked, then got on a plane and flew to New York to become Donald trumps campaign manager. Why would an unemployed political consultant have any business with Wikileaks except the hacked emails for his soon-to-boss.

You have to admit it is extremely suspicious behavior.


He met with WikiLeaks BEFORE the emails were ever even written, much less hacked.  Why would he meet with WikiLeaks before anything ever happened with the DNC?

krypto2000 said:
Every time more evidence comes up you seem to try to dismiss it as evidence at all rather than argue the merits there of.

I swear if Putin shot someone on 5th avenue you would call a murder charge pure speculation because while it may look like he died from hemorrhaging at the site of the wound all other possibilities have yet to be ruled out and no one can track his final heart beat to the direct lack of blood. Besides, how do we know it was even Putin, maybe it was the Chinese or the DNC wearing a Putin mask and a Putin body suite :shrug:.


What's the best evidence we have so far that Trump colluded with Putin?

It's certainly nothing even remotely close to what you just described.  It's more like Putin was visiting the United States during that time, which is good enough for you guys.


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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Julian Assange is a corrupt piece of shit


Noting he's ever published has turned out to be false.


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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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He met with WikiLeaks BEFORE the emails were ever even written, much less hacked.  Why would he meet with WikiLeaks before anything ever happened with the DNC?


Podesta was hacked in the middle of March, the same timeframe for the assange meeting.


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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: koods]
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Ah, so Manafort already knew the DNC would play dirty and that the upcoming dirt would find its way to WikiLeaks.  Got it.


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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Or manafort was the go between the Russian government and Wikileaks.


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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: koods]
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The Russians tell manafort they have an operation to steal hillary related emails, suggest that he should get inside the trump campaign proffering dirt and talk to his friend assange about weaponizing them for the campaign. In return, the oligarchs who are sanctioned would get relief from trump and they would forgive manafort’s debt and maybe even pay him

There’s motive, means and opportunity.


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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: koods]
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koods said:
The Russians tell manafort they have an operation to steal hillary related emails, suggest that he should get inside the trump campaign proffering dirt and talk to his friend assange about weaponizing them for the campaign. In return, the oligarchs who are sanctioned would get relief from trump and they would forgive manafort’s debt and maybe even pay him

There’s motive, means and opportunity.


Sure, if any of that is proven true (none of which has been - it's all make believe at this point).


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Re: The missing link: Manafort secretly met with Julian Assange days before joining Trump Campaign [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Means: manafort knows sanctioned Russians, manafort knows assange. Manafort knows insiders in the Trumk campaign, manafort has campaign experience, manafort rented in trump tower.

Motive: manafort is broke and is in debt to parties whose wealth and businesses is being sanctioned. Trump wants to be buddies with putin. Assange wants to destroy hillary

Opportunity: Trump will be running against Clinton. Trump can help Russia and Russia can help trump.

I’m not saying this is exactly how it went down, but I think it’s close.


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