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Want to go past where I've been..
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Just a question for the more experienced. I love this forum and the people with the information and experiences they've encountered, and spreading the knowledge.

Anyway, I'm coming here to ask a question. Usually I stick with doses around 1.5/3.. depending on the events that day. I'll dose on a gram and a half with a nice bike ride with friends and feel amazing.. and take everything in. Just really sets the mood. Also, the most I took was an 8th.. and it was great and all.. but I remember mostly getting just EXTREME visuals like everything morphing, my settings changing back to back.. my friends looking and morphing into like avatar looking species.

It was great.. but didnt really get anything out of it due to how mind blown I was with the visuals. I'm assuming this was because I was with friends and we were all just enjoying the trip together. This was over two years ago. Recently it has been all low doses.

But anyway, DAILY I question everything. I think about what if .. what's that.. analyzing. Training my subconscious awareness. But, I really do want to go deeper. I'm just kind of scared. I have a very strong mind set... I work out extremely hard (pushing limits) and I know that trains my conciousness stronger than probably anything else that I do other than reading. But it pushes it in a sense of being under distress and getting passed very tough situations.. DAILY. I know I have a strong mind set. I've dosed enough to awaken and am aware that this life isn't true.

But I just want to know.. if i do a 5g dose.  Should I do it alone? I've never tripped alone.. I've always done it with at least one other person. And we've always done stuff.. hammock chilling.. camping.. bike rides.. long walks..

I've been reading a lot about internal. And when I've come to think of it, I've never just sat there and closed my eyes and let my brain do the magic behind the eyelids.

My question is.. I know 3.5 and jumping to 5g is a big leap. I'm most likely going to dose with 3.5g again and see how it treats me..once again.

I'm just asking what did you do to prepare yourself for really jumping the dose? Any of your stories are very helpful.

Thank you for taking the time to read this! And any replies are appreciated!


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Re: Want to go past where I've been.. [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
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Very interesting post Vibe Enthusiast.  I too started out doing psychedelics with other people and mostly did them for the "Good Vibes" - meaning having a pleasant time and enjoying the experience of communal tripping.  I no longer trip with people, or very seldom at least.  I am fairly selfish with my experiences now, as other people truly get in the way of the magic that emerges when you are alone with the mushroom.  Whether you are outdoors, indoors, listening to music or in complete silence / darkness - the mushroom takes on a whole different dimension once the distraction of other people are removed from the equation.

When you start to experiment alone, especially on doses higher than 1/8 you realize that there are extremely difficult parts of the trip that you must work through.  Having the safety and companionship of a person is often an easier way of exiting out of a negative space in the journey.  When left alone, you have to navigate negative spaces alone and find the exit from negative thought loops.  So it's good that you consider yourself to be of strong mind and mental fortitude.  Overall, my advice would be to develop your relationship with the mushroom solo - starting out at a moderate dose of an 1/8.  Depending on how you feel, you can bump it up until you get to experience the mind bending and fantastical zones of the heroic 5g+ realms.  It takes time though, and I believe that a prudent approach is always better in the long run.  Hope this helps!

Edited by Rat-a-Tat (11/29/18 08:40 AM)

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Re: Want to go past where I've been.. [Re: Rat-a-Tat]
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Rat-a-Tat said:
Very interesting post Vibe Enthusiast.  I too started out doing psychedelics with other people and mostly did them for the "Good Vibes" - meaning having a pleasant time and enjoying the experience of communal tripping.  I no longer trip with people, or very seldom at least.  I am fairly selfish with my experiences now, as other people truly get in the way of the magic that emerges when you are alone with the mushroom.  Whether you are outdoors, indoors, listening to music or in complete silence / darkness - the mushroom takes on a whole different dimension once the distraction of other people are removed from the equation.

When you start to experiment alone, especially on doses higher than 1/8 you realize that there are extremely difficult parts of the trip that you must work through.  Having the safety and companionship of a person is often an easier way of exiting out of a negative space in the journey.  When left alone, you have to navigate negative spaces alone and find the exit from negative thought loops.  So it's good that you consider yourself to be of strong mind and mental fortitude.  Overall, my advice would be to develop your relationship with the mushroom solo - starting out at a moderate dose of an 1/8.  Depending on how you feel, you can bump it up until you get to experience the mind bending and fantastical zones of the heroic 5g+ realms.  It takes time though, and I believe that a prudent approach is always better in the long run.  Hope this helps!



Absolutely man! I apprecaite the reply. I've thought that as well.. it's like I noticed I would put energy into other people wondering if they're having a good experience when I should be focusing on myself ya know? I guess, just the weird transition to taking them alone opposed to friends is what I will have to get used to first. Seeing as how I've never experienced a solo trip.

Maybe just go and hang my hammock and bring my headphones and lay under the tress and let the mushroom speak to me.. I do feel like it would be a complete difference experience. Even with a gram or two.. I'm sure being by myself would bring out so much more.

Did you notice a huge difference when you took on your first solo trip? Apprecaite your outlook on this brother!


Edited by Vibe_Enthusiast (11/29/18 09:06 AM)

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Re: Want to go past where I've been.. [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
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Vibe_Enthusiast said:
Rat-a-Tat said:
Very interesting post Vibe Enthusiast.  I too started out doing psychedelics with other people and mostly did them for the "Good Vibes" - meaning having a pleasant time and enjoying the experience of communal tripping.  I no longer trip with people, or very seldom at least.  I am fairly selfish with my experiences now, as other people truly get in the way of the magic that emerges when you are alone with the mushroom.  Whether you are outdoors, indoors, listening to music or in complete silence / darkness - the mushroom takes on a whole different dimension once the distraction of other people are removed from the equation.

When you start to experiment alone, especially on doses higher than 1/8 you realize that there are extremely difficult parts of the trip that you must work through.  Having the safety and companionship of a person is often an easier way of exiting out of a negative space in the journey.  When left alone, you have to navigate negative spaces alone and find the exit from negative thought loops.  So it's good that you consider yourself to be of strong mind and mental fortitude.  Overall, my advice would be to develop your relationship with the mushroom solo - starting out at a moderate dose of an 1/8.  Depending on how you feel, you can bump it up until you get to experience the mind bending and fantastical zones of the heroic 5g  realms.  It takes time though, and I believe that a prudent approach is always better in the long run.  Hope this helps!



Absolutely man! I apprecaite the reply. I've thought that as well.. it's like I noticed I would put energy into other people wondering if they're having a good experience when I should be focusing on myself ya know? I guess, just the weird transition to taking them alone opposed to friends is what I will have to get used to first. Seeing as how I've never experienced a solo trip.

Maybe just go and hang my hammock and bring my headphones and lay under the tress and let the mushroom speak to me.. I do feel like it would be a complete difference experience. Even with a gram or two.. I'm sure being by myself would bring out so much more.

Did you notice a huge difference when you took on your first solo trip? Apprecaite your outlook on this brother!





Vibe_Enthusiast said:
Rat-a-Tat said:
Very interesting post Vibe Enthusiast.  I too started out doing psychedelics with other people and mostly did them for the "Good Vibes" - meaning having a pleasant time and enjoying the experience of communal tripping.  I no longer trip with people, or very seldom at least.  I am fairly selfish with my experiences now, as other people truly get in the way of the magic that emerges when you are alone with the mushroom.  Whether you are outdoors, indoors, listening to music or in complete silence / darkness - the mushroom takes on a whole different dimension once the distraction of other people are removed from the equation.

When you start to experiment alone, especially on doses higher than 1/8 you realize that there are extremely difficult parts of the trip that you must work through.  Having the safety and companionship of a person is often an easier way of exiting out of a negative space in the journey.  When left alone, you have to navigate negative spaces alone and find the exit from negative thought loops.  So it's good that you consider yourself to be of strong mind and mental fortitude.  Overall, my advice would be to develop your relationship with the mushroom solo - starting out at a moderate dose of an 1/8.  Depending on how you feel, you can bump it up until you get to experience the mind bending and fantastical zones of the heroic 5g+ realms.  It takes time though, and I believe that a prudent approach is always better in the long run.  Hope this helps!



Absolutely man! I apprecaite the reply. I've thought that as well.. it's like I noticed I would put energy into other people wondering if they're having a good experience when I should be focusing on myself ya know? I guess, just the weird transition to taking them alone opposed to friends is what I will have to get used to first. Seeing as how I've never experienced a solo trip.

Maybe just go and hang my hammock and bring my headphones and lay under the tress and let the mushroom speak to me.. I do feel like it would be a complete difference experience. Even with a gram or two.. I'm sure being by myself would bring out so much more.

Did you notice a huge difference when you took on your first solo trip? Apprecaite your outlook on this brother!





Man - my first mushroom experience was 16 years ago.  It has been so many years and so many drops - they all kind of start to blend into each other.  I don't remember the first time that I went solo, but over the last 10 years I have almost exclusively tripped alone.  I kind of view it like a conversation.  Can you imagine having a conversation with another adult and then a young kid keeps trying to get your attention and talk to you?  I view it in the same vein.  The mushroom has a lot of things to communicate to you, but other people (no matter how well intentioned or nice) are getting in the way of that communication.  For my first journey into the abyss solo, I would suggest doing it at your house if possible.  There is more security and familiarity there, which might be beneficial for your first solo run.  Also, it's a no brainier - but you have to be in a good place mentally as well.  I need to practice what I preach - but I really think having a daily meditation practice could add significant mental control and concentration power to a solo trips.  I am really trying to incorporate this into my life, but it is difficult.  Anyways - you only need to get 1 solo run under your belt, then you will see that it's fucking awesome...  Then you can blast off onto 4, 5 or even 6 grams and go meet all of the hyperspace beings in Shroom town.  That's where the real magic lies!

Edited by Rat-a-Tat (11/29/18 09:26 AM)

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Re: Want to go past where I've been.. [Re: Rat-a-Tat]
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Hell yeah man.. maybe that's what I've really been sleeping on was, having the experience by myself. I'm sure it will be a whole different ball game.. and in all honesty your reply on here is what just pushed me into the direction to do it.

I'm going to do my first solo trip this weekend. I'm in a good head space. It has been awhile. I also need to start meditating. But like I said.. I work out 5 days a week (pretty heavy).. and I've really gotta prep myself and get my body ready for what I'm about to do. I have a huge feeling that mindset plays a huge role into bracing for impact. I know its apples and oranges.. but I feel like without a positive strong mind set I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing. And I'm like ready for this experience. I should start meditating as well. After, I stretch and listen to very mediating music. Almost like yoga I guess. Just helps with becoming one with my body. Mind body connection.

But that's the thing that freaks me out.. is that ego death. But fuck. I'm so ready for it. But I'm going to ease into it. I respect your input in this man. You're appreciated.

The mushroom is such a beautiful thing! Glad we can agree on that.


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Edited by Vibe_Enthusiast (11/29/18 09:55 AM)

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Re: Want to go past where I've been.. [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
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Do it like McKenna said 5 grams in silent darkness it will be the best time ever if you just accept everything that comes to you

I did it only once so far but that trip changed my life forever and I love it


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Re: Want to go past where I've been.. [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
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Hey, brother. I was minded like you until I stopped worrying about everyone else's experiences and this stigma around being a "psychonaut". These forums are full of none other than opinion, speculation, insane delusion and it is usually all because people are too stupid to think for themselves.  We are literally talking about tiny little plants with little to no toxic content. How many people do you know that have gotten drunk as all hell and made a big ass out of themselves? Have you ever heard anybody asking someone, omg what is your biggest dose of alcohol?!?!?! How do I take more?! Or willing open their hands and their bodies to pharmaceutical drug companies because some quackpot doctor wants to make a buck... there is literally nothing to fear in these experiences. They are plants. They are not gods, and they do not have spirits of their own. Eat as much as you want.


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God bless -LoverOfTheLight

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Re: Want to go past where I've been.. [Re: LoveroftheLight]
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I mean don't get me wrong, these are some amazing substances and I surely do respect them and have great appreciation for what they do. However, I do not fear them and I do not give them the glory. All glory goes the the father, spirit and son.

I'm just saying, the Terence McKenna of the world have filled the psychadelic community with nonsense and propaganda. They discredit the validity of healing and rejuvenation that these plants offer.

There are no secret gnomes, or elves, or dmt jesters living in some great machine. The UFO you see is already in your head. Everything you experience is already in your own head. Last week I literally at 12 grams over the course of 8 hours and saw absolutely no visuals. I was being fool hearted and was simply not in the right mindset.  Don't believe everything you read.

The human brain is the most complex device ever conceived. Be it organically or mechanically derived. Never forget that.


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Sorry for wasting your time, or not. 
God bless -LoverOfTheLight

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Re: Want to go past where I've been.. [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
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Vibe_Enthusiast said:
I've dosed enough to awaken and am aware that this life isn't true.



Uh-huh.  :shrug:

But anyway, you can't separate the visuals from the heavier trip but you can ride them out.  Focus is important (that's set) but resistance is useless.  At really high doses setting stops mattering much as it almost all becomes internal.  And you might wanna only go there alone for sure, number one thing.

Just a couple of observations...  And anyway, "how"?  You just do it.


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