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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefSupremeJr said:
Bruuuuuuuh that’s such a logical fallacy I ain’t even gonna do this bye. Jesus.  Fuck the kids I guess.



Yes, the fallacy I pointed out, right?

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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: qman] * 1
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Cops carry guns for murder only


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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: bodhisatta]
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I'd say they carry them for murder at least 50% of the time


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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefSupremeJr said:
I don’t think there’s an immediate solution culturally.  Massive reform over a long time but, what would some basic federal gun laws hurt?

No high-cap mags. No high-cap semi autos to begin with.  Tighter ownership restrictions with regard to training and safety protocol as well as more psychological evaluation. 

What exactly does it hurt.?



So you're saying in a country that has states in which being trans is considered a mental disease that psych evals would really help people? You stand atop a mountain of privilege to speak like this. The govt. has used "*common sense*" laws to discriminate rampantly against minorities in the past, and it will happen again.

Jim crow laws were put in place to "protect from black savagery" and your fear mongering is on par with it. Screaming about how other countries which are easily 1/100th the size of the U.S.
and have fantastic guns laws doesn't make sense, it isn't even comparable.

I estimate an easy 1mil guns are buried in bugout bags and prepper stashes around the country. This number gets larger the less people trust the govt. and the govt. has been steadily showing it isn't for the people it's for the elite.

High cap mag bans won't change a thing, millions in circulation and the average reload only takes 2-3 seconds often less than 1 second with training. As shown below.

mag size comparison


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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: Zyiadem] * 2
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If you make them illegal, law abiding gun owners will get rid of them. And since every gun owner says they are law abiding, I see no problem. If they aren’t law abiding they can deal with the consequences


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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: Zyiadem] * 1
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Zyiadem said:
Jim crow laws were put in place to "protect from black savagery" and your fear mongering is on par with it.



And they worked really well huh?

Maybe it's not the concept that's the issue, but the nation we're discussing?


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--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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We have a massive insecurity complex as a nation, it'd be fucking hilarious if it didn't get us and the world shot up.

Don't compare gun control to civil rights, they have nothing to do with each other.

OR DO THEY?!

I seem to remember during the civil rights movement the NRA and Republican party got all up in arms about needing gun control because black people were arming themselves.


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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: koods] * 1
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Also since I'm a man of my word here's this again.

Mac10 Construction guide

Except there won't be any consequences, are you going to endanger and waste police time to go pick up an unknown number of items that could be anywhere, all 3,531,905 square miles. Because sure, law abiding gun owners will give them up if asked. Criminals however will endanger police officers, as the video shows, for no real difference.

Likewise police showing up and demanding guns is exactly what us "gun nut ammosexuals" warn about as a sign of fascism, and I'll be damned if both my grandfathers fought in WWII for the U.S. to fall under a dictatorship.


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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: Zyiadem] * 1
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Drug manufacture is illegal and people get popped for it all the time.

Anyone dumb enough to manufacture guns would be dumb enough to sell them to some desperate fool that's going to get caught with it.

Know what desperate fools do?

Snitch.


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Smellyhobbit said:
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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
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If gun control forces people to use plastic, home made guns, that is a huge win.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: koods]
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They already do

What do you think an assault rifle is?

Get to watch that home-made bubba bullshit fall apart all the time.

It's why I don't go to the public range.


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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Mr Piggy said:
We have a massive insecurity complex as a nation, it'd be fucking hilarious if it didn't get us and the world shot up.

Don't compare gun control to civil rights, they have nothing to do with each other.

OR DO THEY?!

I seem to remember during the civil rights movement the NRA and Republican party got all up in arms about needing gun control because black people were arming themselves.



What are these insecurities you keep bringing up?

Yes the NRA is a trash organization, Which is why I don't support them. They are racist and homophobic.

Not all gun owners are part of the NRA, many disagree with it's stances. You assuming that anyone who owns a gun is part of the NRA is foolish bordering on mentally deficient.

Owning a gun is a civil right, the right to "Life, Liberty and happiness" Includes defending your life.

Yes majorities get very scared when minorities arm themselves, however instead of listening and adapting politics to include them, they painted them as thugs and lowlifes, very similar to how the media portrays gun owners as irresponsible hicks or deranged anarchists.

If you have a snitch problem it's your fault for not fixing it.

If you break the law and bitch about the consequences you're a child.

Glad we cleared that up.


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Edited by Zyiadem (11/13/18 07:28 PM)

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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: Zyiadem] * 1
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Zyiadem said:
BeefSupremeJr said:
I don’t think there’s an immediate solution culturally.  Massive reform over a long time but, what would some basic federal gun laws hurt?

No high-cap mags. No high-cap semi autos to begin with.  Tighter ownership restrictions with regard to training and safety protocol as well as more psychological evaluation. 

What exactly does it hurt.?



So you're saying in a country that has states in which being trans is considered a mental disease that psych evals would really help people? You stand atop a mountain of privilege to speak like this. The govt. has used "*common sense*" laws to discriminate rampantly against minorities in the past, and it will happen again.

Jim crow laws were put in place to "protect from black savagery" and your fear mongering is on par with it. Screaming about how other countries which are easily 1/100th the size of the U.S.
and have fantastic guns laws doesn't make sense, it isn't even comparable.

I estimate an easy 1mil guns are buried in bugout bags and prepper stashes around the country. This number gets larger the less people trust the govt. and the govt. has been steadily showing it isn't for the people it's for the elite.

High cap mag bans won't change a thing, millions in circulation and the average reload only takes 2-3 seconds often less than 1 second with training. As shown below.

mag size comparison





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Edited by BeefExtreme (11/13/18 07:36 PM)

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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefSupremeJr said:
Zyiadem said:
BeefSupremeJr said:
I don’t think there’s an immediate solution culturally.  Massive reform over a long time but, what would some basic federal gun laws hurt?

No high-cap mags. No high-cap semi autos to begin with.  Tighter ownership restrictions with regard to training and safety protocol as well as more psychological evaluation. 

What exactly does it hurt.?



So you're saying in a country that has states in which being trans is considered a mental disease that psych evals would really help people? You stand atop a mountain of privilege to speak like this. The govt. has used "*common sense*" laws to discriminate rampantly against minorities in the past, and it will happen again.

Jim crow laws were put in place to "protect from black savagery" and your fear mongering is on par with it. Screaming about how other countries which are easily 1/100th the size of the U.S.
and have fantastic guns laws doesn't make sense, it isn't even comparable.

I estimate an easy 1mil guns are buried in bugout bags and prepper stashes around the country. This number gets larger the less people trust the govt. and the govt. has been steadily showing it isn't for the people it's for the elite.

High cap mag bans won't change a thing, millions in circulation and the average reload only takes 2-3 seconds often less than 1 second with training. As shown below.

mag size comparison







Welp that seems racist, what a strange thing to have on hand.


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Edited by Zyiadem (11/13/18 07:41 PM)

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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: koods]
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koods said:
If you make them illegal, law abiding gun owners will get rid of them. And since every gun owner says they are law abiding, I see no problem. If they aren’t law abiding they can deal with the consequences



Would those be the same consequences people face when they grow drugs and don't tell anyone?

I know more felons with guns personally than non felons with guns. Owning one in and of itself is a crime. So there goes the law abiding theory.


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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: bodhisatta]
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Yeah I was being facetious


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: Zyiadem]
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Zyiadem said:
Welp that seems racist, what a strange thing to have on hand.




Pro tip, google something you don't understand before labeling it.


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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
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local Nazi arrested for possession of high capacity magazine, as well as possessing a gun while addicted to meth. Who knew that having a gun while being addicted to a controlled substance is a federal crime?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/dc-man-arrested-on-gun-charge-after-relatives-alert-police-to-his-alleged-white-nationalist-outbursts/2018/11/13/e3a6d2fa-e771-11e8-b8dc-66cca409c180_story.html?fbclid=IwAR2ng0XZ8nqWeFOxam9M2PfYDo0RrCuEWbY2J2emqs7M1DpAH42ndt3LD7c&utm_term=.0c9bae61b3cbH

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A D.C. man who described himself as a white nationalist to law enforcement officers and became a social-media follower of the suspect in the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting has been arrested on a gun charge after his worried relatives contacted the authorities, according to federal court filings.

Jeffrey R. Clark Jr., 30, is charged with illegally possessing a firearm and a high-capacity magazine and made his initial court appearance Tuesday afternoon in U.S. District Court in Washington. He was ordered held until Friday.

Clark, who lives in the Bloomingdale neighborhood, was arrested Nov. 9, court filings show, after two family members alerted police to his increasingly agitated outbursts, including that the 11 victims of the Pittsburgh shooting “deserved it.” The outbursts occurred in the wake of Clark’s brother’s suicide.



Edited by koods (11/14/18 09:33 AM)

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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: koods]
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:cookiemonster:  :elmo:


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Smellyhobbit said:
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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: Zyiadem]
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BeefSupremeJr said:




Welp that seems racist, what a strange thing to have on hand.



What I read from his unedited post, with this img.^ Is that your religions genealogy affects whether it is valid, which is pretty racist in my book.

Also if you didn't have the patience to watch a 2 minutes of how the video makers tried to make it a realistic comparison, it makes sense you don't have the attention span to come up with any argument more valid than an anti-judaic meme. :shrug:


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