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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: koods]
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koods said:
“criminals don’t pay attention to laws, therefore we shouldn’t have laws.”


How even do laws work


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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 1
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
no im for sensible gun laws California is redic. the point ive said since like the second post in this thread was that the laws didnt help prevent this and do very little more than just cripple the ability for law abiding citizens to own and carry fire arm while at the same time promoting and irrational fear of fire arms that i see as quite dangerous.


What do you mean the guns laws didn’t help? He used a handgun because you can’t buy an ar-15 in a California gun store. Gun laws probably saved dozens more people from being killed.

People who argue against gun laws seem to be incapable of understanding that there are more outcomes than just shootings or no shootings. Less deadly shootings are very much a win.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (11/12/18 03:27 PM)

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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: koods]
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what about his illegal extendo mags? whered he get that genius magic?

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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: koods] * 1
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Used to be, shroomery was full of thoughtful humans.  The fuck happened while I was gone?


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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefSupremeJr said:
Used to be, shroomery was full of thoughtful humans.  The fuck happened while I was gone?


were trying to have an actual discussion here if u dont have anything of substance besides "ppl are here are dumb now"or how even do laws work" then ur not helping

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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 1
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
BeefSupremeJr said:
Used to be, shroomery was full of thoughtful humans.  The fuck happened while I was gone?


were trying to have an actual discussion here if u dont have anything of substance besides "ppl are here are dumb now"or how even do laws work" then ur not helping



We’ve been having the same discussion since columbine and people are still giving handjobs to the nra.  People are  still mowed down every four days and it’s the same old “actual discussion” about gun laws not working when there’s a literal world of evidence to say otherwise.  I literally work for non-profits that support common sense gun laws.  I haven’t heard an “actual” new argument against gun laws In 20 years.

Lay it on me


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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
what about his illegal extendo mags? whered he get that genius magic?


Probably from someone making illegal sale to California. When they find them they should be prosecuted. Even better if you have national law banning those mags then much of the problem goes away. State gun control can only do so much. We don’t have customs control at state borders.

Have you ever wondered why people aren’t mowed down with uzis and other machine guns anymore? That used to be the rage back in the 20s and 30s. Then machine guns were banned. You can’t get an uzi in the US legally anymore. the total lack of machine gun based crime also seems to indicate you can’t really get them on the black market ether. The machine gun ban works.  Gun control works.


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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: koods] * 1
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oh bullshit u cant get a machine gun in the us the fucking vegas shooter could have had a fucking mounted m60 over the crowd if he wanted to and obtained it legally. and guess what koods most of those thompsons n shit used in those crimes werent legally purchased they were stolen or bought from national guard depots and the like. u no cuz gangsters n shit. any more brain benders? :derpyouverymuch:

Edited by CHeifM4sterDiezL (11/12/18 03:55 PM)

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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 1
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Yep same old shit, and RIGHT after he just said state laws can only do so much.  Yet you accuse me of having no substance.  Get real.  People are dying so some people can play with toys and play army.  Let’s at least admit it.


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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
what about his illegal extendo mags? whered he get that genius magic?


Anyone can cross the boarder to Oregon, Nevada, or Arizona and buy one of those mags over the counter.  We used to be able to just buy guns in the street here in Oregon legally until 2015.

I bought my first duck gun in a parkinglot.

That's why we're pushing for comprehensive federal regulations like the assault weapons ban we had for a bit.


Your arguments have so many holes in them they look like they attended concerts in Vegas.


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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefSupremeJr said:
...  People are dying so some people can play with toys and play army.  Let’s at least admit it.


This is exactly it.


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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
oh bullshit u cant get a machine gun in the us the fucking vegas shooter could have had a fucking mounted m60 over the crowd if he wanted to and obtained it legally. and guess what koods most of those thompsons n shit used in those crimes werent legally purchased they were stolen or bought from national guard depots and the like. u no cuz gangsters n shit. any more brain benders? :derpyouverymuch:


It has been illegal to import, manufacture, sell or purchase a machine gun in the United States for private use since 1986. There are exemptions for law enforcement and military and for machine guns made before 1986.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: Mr Piggy]
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while i dont think parking lot sales should be legal i dont see how banning extended mags does anything. hell i could just carry 10 guns loaded on a vest and fucking never have to reload n thats 100 rounds easy. my point is these laws have no basis in reality and cause an Irrational fear among the public.

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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: koods]
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koods said:
CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
oh bullshit u cant get a machine gun in the us the fucking vegas shooter could have had a fucking mounted m60 over the crowd if he wanted to and obtained it legally. and guess what koods most of those thompsons n shit used in those crimes werent legally purchased they were stolen or bought from national guard depots and the like. u no cuz gangsters n shit. any more brain benders? :derpyouverymuch:


It has been illegal to import, manufacture, sell or purchase a machine gun in the United States for private use since 1986. There are exemptions for law enforcement and military and for machine guns made before 1986.


b4 86 oh u mean like 98% of machine guns yah ppl can have a ffl license to obtain those. dverything isnt black and white as ud like to cut it koods. we need a free society even tho ur gonna cry about it. :crybaby:

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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
while i dont think parking lot sales should be legal i dont see how banning extended mags does anything. hell i could just carry 10 guns loaded on a vest and fucking never have to reload n thats 100 rounds easy. my point is these laws have no basis in reality and cause an Irrational fear among the public.


With rational gun control you wouldn't have ten hand guns.

The fear is real because people are being mowed down in the street with legally obtained military style weapons.

Your fantasy world is just that, fantasy.

This is the kind of bullshit posting I was talking about you doing.  Your shit stinks, and you're not supporting laws that save lives.

:finger:


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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 1
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Ten guns with 10 bullets are less harmful than one with 100 bullets. One of the rationales of gun control is to make things like mass murder harder to commit and less deadly. Having to reload or grab a new gun is an opportunity to confront or run away. Handguns are less deadly than long guns because the bullet fired from a handgun has a lot less energy than the same fired from a rifle. the trauma to the body is far more devasting with a rifle. Handguns require closer engagement as well. Gun control isn’t intended to stop gun violence completely. That is an absurd goal. Gun control is mean to reduce gun deaths.

And you don’t have the right to own a machine gun or a semiautomatic. Those are not weapons the 2nd amendment protects.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: Mr Piggy]
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why can't someone own ten hand guns they love each with a passion for different reasons! there is nothing malicious or anything about it. some ppl just like interesting mechanisms. some ppl just like history. some ppl just like throwing rocks at paper as something to mark to better themselves. i mean who are u to say they are wrong? this is what im talking about.

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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: koods]
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we need a free society even tho ur gonna cry about it. :crybaby:


So Americans should be able to own whatever arms they wish? No limits? RPGs? Artillery? Intercontinental ballistic mussels?


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NotSheekle said
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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: Mr Piggy] * 2
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I actually grew up shooting.  I was a 1000 in a row club member as a trap shooter.  A mile marker finalist in dynamite shoots as a teenager.  I wasn’t  just good I was totally phenomenal and I still have 30/20 vision. 

Wanna know what I’d do with ten guns if I was being shot at in a crowd? I’d drop them and fucking run.  Wanna know why? Cause I grew up with guns and Have an intimate knowledge of how they work.


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Re: Mass shooter identified in Thousand Oaks California, leaving at least 12 dead [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Quote:
we need a free society even tho ur gonna cry about it. :crybaby:


So Americans should be able to own whatever arms they wish? No limits? RPGs? Artillery? Intercontinental ballistic mussels?


Only a good guy with a nuke can stop a bad guy with a nuke


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