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Ideas on cancer and treatments
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Hello again from Shroomekalb96,
Some things on my mind latley is the direct correlation of our environment, mental health and the development of diseases such as cancer.
Cancer like any other organism thrive in specific environments or behave in certain pattern's for development or survival purposes.
Cancer is basically a rouge cell that multiplies rapidly and poisons other healthy cell membrane's to stay alive and sustain itself.

So the thought's rattle through my mind our basic when it comes to treatment
1.Burn (ie. Radation)
-smoke

2.Poisen
-Toxic compounds

3.cut
-physically remove

4.(most intreaging)Cell cannabalism.
-healthy cells eating the cancerous members.

#4 specifically sticks out to me as the best bet. All the other options are violent and will cause the cancer to fight back, but by healthy cells eating the cancer it should reduce and transmute.

Would love to hear feedback.

Some background thinking would be to think of cancer like an evil person, try 1. 2. Or 3. And you might have a bad time. But #4... If you eat it/them, chances are it will decline or "run away".

Best Regards,
Blake
:aum:

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Re: Ideas on cancer and treatments [Re: shroomekalb96]
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Cancer is from an Evil Spirit possessing the person (Demonic oppression, then Full Possesion).

You can cure cancer in a myriad of ways. But they DON'T want this out!

They kill natural cancer doctors. Many natural healers DISAPPEAR without trace. You can google this. The list is extensive.


Cancer is big money business for the pharma industry, doctors, and anti cancer societies.
Anti cancer societies are a cancer of this planet usually, they exploit the weak's heart to give to them, yet they be fake charities. They are illuminati. They ring your door, but their CEO earns million dollar salary. And they never find a cure for cancer, they have no incentive to. If they find one, it be poison. They earn most this way. They also earn on denying natural treatments and combating smokers on the streets.

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Re: Ideas on cancer and treatments [Re: lessismore] * 1
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GTFO of here with your nonsense.  This is not the forum for it ;/

There is no such thing as just 'cancer'  There are a fuckload of different types of cancers that all have their own issues for dealing with it.  There is no conspiracy to somehow keep the cure from people.


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quote]Urb said:
I know... Its fucked up... Ill fix it minyana..[/quote]

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Re: Ideas on cancer and treatments [Re: mndfreeze]
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Dear mndfreeze, your mind is locked on conspiracy theory. This is not a conspiracy theory. Also, please do not swear. It is ungodly to do.

Almost all cancers have the Root in the same Cause. Spiritually.


Love, Light and Abundance


Markus

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Re: Ideas on cancer and treatments [Re: lessismore]
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Dear lessismore,  The second you mention Illuminati it becomes about conspiracy theory.  Just because medical services are sold does not mean all doctors suddenly decide money is their only goal and they stop treating or curing disease because of it  If that was the case they wouldn't push for vaccines because that would get them LOTS of business if they let people get measles.  In fact, its a mix of naturopaths and conspiracy theorists that are causing the current anti-vaxxer movement and generating more money for those doctors.


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Nothing says love like grannies prolapsed anus!

quote]Urb said:
I know... Its fucked up... Ill fix it minyana..[/quote]

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Re: Ideas on cancer and treatments [Re: mndfreeze]
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Illuminati is not conspiracy theory. Illuminati is real. Hitler wanted a Neue Welt Order (NWO). He even made banners as such when he rose up his Reich.

And he burned people alive. Burned the jews in his ovens.

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Re: Ideas on cancer and treatments [Re: lessismore]
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When it comes to anything modern day, like our cancer research, they are only conspiracy theory.

While people are far from perfect, meaning that the things they do are also far from perfect, all the societies, researchers, scientists, etc are busting their ass trying to find ways to stop cancer.  Its a major killer in our species.  Due to its nature it is not so simple to deal with since its our own bodies causing the issue.

I have no problem with whatever beliefs you want to have, but this in forum where people are asking for legitimate help, advice should be kept to the real world.  There is a spirituality forum if you want to talk about that stuff.

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Modern Illuminati
Several recent and present-day fraternal organisations claim to be descended from the original Bavarian Illuminati and openly use the name "Illuminati". Some of these groups use a variation on the name "The Illuminati Order" in the name of their own organisations,[27] while others, such as the Ordo Templi Orientis, have "Illuminati" as a level within their organisation's hierarchy. However, there is no evidence that these present-day groups have amassed significant political power or influence, and most, rather than trying to remain secret, promote unsubstantiated links to the Bavarian Illuminati as a means of attracting membership.[21]


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Nothing says love like grannies prolapsed anus!

quote]Urb said:
I know... Its fucked up... Ill fix it minyana..[/quote]

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Re: Ideas on cancer and treatments [Re: mndfreeze]
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And how long have they been looking?
And how many Billions have been spent?

I have literal NO faith in conventional Cancer treatment, and likely wouldn't get it. After all they fill Poison on you, ChemoTherapy , and pretend it is good for you.

It can destroy the heart, eyes, ears etc. As a side effect.


I have not much faith in certain science fields, and in fact many of them, only the wise scientists. But as many wise ones there are, as many unwise are there. They are hurting people using these treatments, and claiming they're scientific. Fact is they kill people. Chemo kills people before time often!

Psychiatry, and Doctors, no thanks.

You are likely biased towards yourself in your view, you seem very in favour of science, I been to doctors, all things I talk to. Thus my experience. I speak only my personal experience.

These fields rarely cure.


It is easy to say I'm a scientist === Science is GOOD. But rarely is the truth.

Science is controlled by money. Even the Phds researchers say science is very rarely purely good. Science has many dangers.


It is possible they find a cure, but I can easily imagine top corps stealin the idea and turning it to profit. It is all about money in the end. Billions.

Most doctor things never cure, but keep you in the system. Like they tell you you need for life. I gotten off both BP meds, and Asthma meds they claim people need for life!

So doctors lie.


That is my experience. Many doctors lie. And they have no problem doing it.

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Re: Ideas on cancer and treatments [Re: lessismore]
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I dont think anyone every made any claim that chemotherapy is somehow GOOD for you.  Of course it is not HEALTHY on its own, it has side effects as does most medication/treatments.  However cancer pretty much outright kills you, so the risk/reward is usually worth it for most patients. HENCE why its medicine and used.  This is pretty much how all medication and treatments work.  Risk vs reward.

Of course I am in favor of science.  It's the logical path.  Science is a way to explain and understand the world around us in a language that is universal and not subjective.  That is its entire purpose.  That means your opinions do not change what is fact or not.  No amount of spouting spiritual shit affects whether the earth is round or not.  No amount of not trusting doctors makes the earth flat. 

It is not perfect, but science again even accounts for that with expected error rates/ranges and peer reviewed repeated testing. 

I think you have a narrow understanding of how the scientific community works of you think that somehow the entire WORLDS population of scientists, researchers, companies, non-profits, governments and everyone else involved is somehow trying to hold it back.  Yes, money makes the world go around because thats the common way we pay for goods and services, you know, so we don't have to use the fucking barter system anymore.  But its inane and naive to think everyone in the world is somehow on the same page of greed to hold it back. 

Medical shit is a risk and reward system.  Some things are not worth the risk because the cure is worse than the cause. Most shit we dont HAVE a cure for, like cancer.  There also is no such thing as just 'cancer'.  There are 29845724952487524 types of it (number obviously a random large number and not exact) and all of those cancers have to be treated totally differently. 

If your viewpoint was correct we wouldn't have VACCINES, because you know, those completely and utterly CURE shit to the point we have actually wiped out disease completely.  There are even disease that there are no vaccines for that we have almost wiped off the planet just through education and treatment.

Do you have any idea how rich the person and company would be who invented a sure fire cure for even ONE cancer?  They would not suddenly run out of patients unless they somehow invented a way to prevent it from even starting, and even then it would take GENERATIONS of people and a LOT of world change to somehow get the entire world on the cure.  We still can't even get most of the world on vaccines developed 50 years ago.  See reference: AFRICA.  They also wouldn't stop working on OTHER maladies that exist. There are a LOT of human illnesses out there and all of them "make money". 

Just because you had a bad experience with your local doctor does not mean all doctors are like that or even that most or more then just a few are, and most likely, as with most people, its usually the patient somehow also at fault by either disregarding all the instructions, refusing to try different things, not getting a second opinion, or not paying attention to all the details and not realizing what chances for help vs the risk is. 

Also, I've said this before, I am not a scientist or a doctor.  I'm a computer engineer and oddly enough, human bodies are a lot like computers, and the troubleshooting process is the same whether its humans or computers when it comes to how to rule things out.


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Nothing says love like grannies prolapsed anus!

quote]Urb said:
I know... Its fucked up... Ill fix it minyana..[/quote]

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Re: Ideas on cancer and treatments [Re: shroomekalb96]
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If no one said it, cut sugar out! Completely cut it out an dont cheat. Sugar is fuel for cancerous cells.


Modified hemotoxic venom seems very promising.


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Edited by Nimph (09/06/18 12:33 AM)

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Re: Ideas on cancer and treatments [Re: Nimph]
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We have to stop the sugar scare. The body runs on sugar, it is in white pasta, it is in mais, it is in strawberries

In fact you will look your best and most sexy, healthy, IF you take in sugar in moderate amount


The aspartame lie is that, a lie. It will give cancer.

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Re: Ideas on cancer and treatments [Re: mndfreeze]
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mndfreeze said:
Just because you had a bad experience with your local doctor does not mean all doctors are like that or even that most or more then just a few are, and most likely, as with most people, its usually the patient somehow also at fault by either disregarding all the instructions, refusing to try different things, not getting a second opinion, or not paying attention to all the details and not realizing what chances for help vs the risk is. 



I lost all respect for you there. Critisize a critically ill person who been into hospital for kidney stones.

I have seen more doctors than you can imagine.

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Re: Ideas on cancer and treatments [Re: lessismore]
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That changes nothing.  You have a single persons experience out of an entire world of doctors.  Numbers and statistics are run specifically to measure things like effectiveness on treatments.  Your single experience is the worst sample size you could possibly have besides zero.  You are not the only person who has medical issues here and not the only one who has had experiences with doctors.  Your bad ones do not suddenly mean the entire industry is terrible or ineffective. Not do good ones suddenly mean the entire industry is flawless and perfect. 

These are the reasons statistics are run, reports are looked at, things are done scientifically with data to ensure the rate of improvement/healing is greater than the negative effects caused by the treatment.


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Nothing says love like grannies prolapsed anus!

quote]Urb said:
I know... Its fucked up... Ill fix it minyana..[/quote]

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Re: Ideas on cancer and treatments [Re: mndfreeze]
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I am not surprised they, you, value statistics over humans!

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Re: Ideas on cancer and treatments [Re: lessismore]
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lessismore said:
Cancer is from an Evil Spirit possessing the person (Demonic oppression, then Full Possesion).

You can cure cancer in a myriad of ways. But they DON'T want this out!

They kill natural cancer doctors. Many natural healers DISAPPEAR without trace. You can google this. The list is extensive.


Cancer is big money business for the pharma industry, doctors, and anti cancer societies.
Anti cancer societies are a cancer of this planet usually, they exploit the weak's heart to give to them, yet they be fake charities. They are illuminati. They ring your door, but their CEO earns million dollar salary. And they never find a cure for cancer, they have no incentive to. If they find one, it be poison. They earn most this way. They also earn on denying natural treatments and combating smokers on the streets.


This.

And I seen both my Mom and Uncle die of cancer. It confirms my view.
Either it is an evil spirit, or it is time for them to go (Scheduled Above), and no doctor can help them then.

For doctorman can not adjust the time of life yet.

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Re: Ideas on cancer and treatments [Re: lessismore]
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So does cancer??? An it replicates faster than u can so u see my point? Sugar in strawberries is different than the sugar that comes in processed foods as well.


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Re: Ideas on cancer and treatments [Re: lessismore]
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lessismore said:
I am not surprised they, you, value statistics over humans!



Thats not how that works, at alllllllllllll.

If you do not understand how measurements work then I'm not sure what to tell you.


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Nothing says love like grannies prolapsed anus!

quote]Urb said:
I know... Its fucked up... Ill fix it minyana..[/quote]

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Re: Ideas on cancer and treatments [Re: shroomekalb96]
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I work with cancer cells , melanoma cells  , we put a gene in them using  constructed plasmids recently to convince the cells to die (apoptosis ) the delivery method was very safe and not very painful or invasive .

There are good people working to cure cancer and it has nothing to do with any conspiracies.

There are just a lot of different kinds of cancer and treating all types are difficult , but we re getting closer. There are a number of treatment s for serious hepatitis types that have near 90 percent cure numbers recently , and similar numbers for HIV. It's not some conspiracy like a lot of folks think


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The really important facts were that spatial relationships had ceased to matter very much and that my mind was perceiving the world in terms of other than spatial categories. At ordinary times the eye concerns itself with such problems as where? — how far? — how situated in relation to what? In the mescaline experience the implied questions to which the eye responds are of another order. Place and distance cease to be of much interest. The mind does its perceiving in terms of intensity of existence, profundity of significance, relationships within a pattern."

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Re: Ideas on cancer and treatments [Re: Ferrum]
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The conspiracies are true just not all of it an they mix truth in with lies to make it look like hoopbla.
There are people working on it but there are those who are trying to stop it(pharmaceutical companies that make the current standard.)



On another note have yall done any research into bacteriaphages? I know its only legal in russia of all places but has anyone talked about it?

Also what do you mean similar numbers with hiv??


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Edited by Nimph (09/07/18 02:14 AM)

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Re: Ideas on cancer and treatments [Re: Ferrum]
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Ferrum said:
There are good people working to cure cancer and it has nothing to do with any conspiracies.

There are just a lot of different kinds of cancer


What if all you been told is wrong, a lie?

You assume it is so it must be. That cancer is a material disease. Thus you must look in your lab for a cure. Like in your microscope.

You also assume there are different kinds of cancers. I know science thinks this is true, but it might not be.


Maybe all cancers stem from one type of disease. (Spiritual misalignment, Possession by evil spirit, or even a Greater Fate for some -- destined to die, no longer need to be here, so there is noone any one can do, not even the best doctor. Doctor can not change father time yet/the hourglass yet.)

Maybe all cancers are not material in nature. (But spiritual in nature, spiritual cause, Possesion by Demons , or a need to leave this world as scheduled before we came here. Some die suddenly, and no doctor can heal them. 1 month, dead from cancer.)

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