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Re: Johns Hopkins DMT Entity Survey [Re: maddchef]
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i wish they wouldnt waste money on MDMA and stick to mushrooms, dmt, lsd, peyote and ayahuasca


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

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Re: Johns Hopkins DMT Entity Survey [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 2
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Mdma is not a waste of money different compounds different effects... they are all equally important in the evolution of man/womankind.


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Re: Johns Hopkins DMT Entity Survey [Re: Khepri] * 1
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MDMA changed my life, and probably saved my marriage. I have not used it in nearly a decade, but it's lessons remain with me always.

As far as a synthetic substance goes, it is the best in my experience.

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Re: Johns Hopkins DMT Entity Survey [Re: Spivkurl]
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What if the elves said "shhhh... uuh..uh..dont tell" of my experience. I am bound to higher agreements.


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Do what thou Wilt shall be the Whole of the Law
Love is the Law. Love under Will

Hail Eris! All Hail Discordia!!
The Sovereign Peanut has Spoken!!

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Re: Johns Hopkins DMT Entity Survey [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 2
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Bill_Oreilly said:
i wish they wouldnt waste money on MDMA and stick to mushrooms, dmt, lsd, peyote and ayahuasca




Not a waste.


MDMA has tremendous potential to help folks in ways that classic psychedelics don't. They all have their place and use. Different tools used for different reasons or different circumstances.

MDMA is unique...It leaves the mind crystal clear, allows the person to be totally open and melts away fear/anxiety entirely, it is very useful in therapy for all sorts of reasons.




Have you ever taken actual real MDMA before?






-OM


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Re: Johns Hopkins DMT Entity Survey [Re: ServantOfBaphomet]
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I'm with you... sounds like a way to Market to us using symbolism that resonates on a deep deep level. Like terrance McKenna said, your expiriences is vital to no one but you.

And openmind I couldn't have said it better, if you haven't expirienced lab verified mdma your missing out. If all of your expiriences are with a substance called "molly" I suggest you rethink your opinion of the substance, because it is truly magical and just as life changing in the correct setting as dmt, ayahuasca...etc


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Re: Johns Hopkins DMT Entity Survey [Re: openmind]
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openmind said:
Bill_Oreilly said:
i wish they wouldnt waste money on MDMA and stick to mushrooms, dmt, lsd, peyote and ayahuasca




Not a waste.


MDMA has tremendous potential to help folks in ways that classic psychedelics don't. They all have their place and use. Different tools used for different reasons or different circumstances.

MDMA is unique...It leaves the mind crystal clear, allows the person to be totally open and melts away fear/anxiety entirely, it is very useful in therapy for all sorts of reasons.




Have you ever taken actual real MDMA before?






-OM


.




i actually have not despite having many chances too.

im all for mdma research unless it gets in the way of researching classic psychedelics. thats my only point


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

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Re: Johns Hopkins DMT Entity Survey [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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Yeah you can do the classic psychedelics all the time and not cause any physical harm.


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Do what thou Wilt shall be the Whole of the Law
Love is the Law. Love under Will

Hail Eris! All Hail Discordia!!
The Sovereign Peanut has Spoken!!

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Re: Johns Hopkins DMT Entity Survey [Re: ServantOfBaphomet]
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If you read Tihkal, shulgin states that there are no adverse effects to mdma consumption and all reports have been fabricated by the dea. Plus MDMA was invented in 1912 by Anton Köllisch. I would consider it a classic in my book.


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Re: Johns Hopkins DMT Entity Survey [Re: Khepri]
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McKenna says it mows down one's dendric ganglions or so ething. He also said we dont know what the ganglions do. Tripping has told me they are brain feelers that are used for subtle but powerful sense-gathering.


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Do what thou Wilt shall be the Whole of the Law
Love is the Law. Love under Will

Hail Eris! All Hail Discordia!!
The Sovereign Peanut has Spoken!!

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Re: Johns Hopkins DMT Entity Survey [Re: johnclifton]
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johnclifton said:
Hi!

We are researchers at Johns Hopkins University working on a study regarding the experiences of people who have had encounters with seemingly autonomous entities after taking DMT.


One does not simply *take* DMT

It's like walking into

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Re: Johns Hopkins DMT Entity Survey [Re: Fiery]
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Yeah mdma does damage to a part of the brain overtime but we don't know if that part or the brain is useful for any important functions or not.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

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Re: Johns Hopkins DMT Entity Survey [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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I'm probably misreading it but my brain is pretty useful. Lol


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Re: Johns Hopkins DMT Entity Survey [Re: ServantOfBaphomet]
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ServantOfBaphomet said:
McKenna says it mows down one's dendric ganglions or so ething. He also said we dont know what the ganglions do. Tripping has told me they are brain feelers that are used for subtle but powerful sense-gathering.


So, maybe it's like giving your brain a hair cut? :lol:

Many Native American tribes believed was an important part of how we sense and experience the world around us, from what I've read. Even with this in mind, and occasional trim can do a world of good.

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Re: Johns Hopkins DMT Entity Survey [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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Bill_Oreilly said:
im all for mdma research unless it gets in the way of researching classic psychedelics. thats my only point


Being barely over 100 years old, MDMA is quite new compared to the natural psychedelics. There is literally thousands of years of research done on these psychedelics already. If only governments/corporations would support and encourage the lives of tribal cultures, instead of killing their land, their culture, and all of their collected understanding of the world - then these substances would no longer require scientific study. We would know all that we need.

The really sad part about chemical substances invented in the modern era, such as LSD and MDMA, is the distinctions between them and other drugs. As the medical/pharma industry has become more powerful, it has been given leeway to do the tests/research with patients as unwitting subjects. Despite some amount of scientific research, the true destructive effects of many drugs are only found after they have destroyed the lives of those who paid for them in the name of health. Even after this happens, many of these drugs are still available, despite the horrible side effects.

MDMA, on the other hand, was used successfully and legally for marriage counseling in the 1970's. It was mainly when the people took it into their own hands to reap the benefits of it that it became taboo and illegal. This is the last thing that the medical industry wants - people to be able to take care of themselves. It's job security!

Of course, like most other synthetics, once it became outlawed the black market took over. When this happens, money is far more important than helping people. When MDMA is either cut with other various substances, or not even present in the product, then the harm becomes much more drastic. It is unpredictable, since people do not know what they are taking. When combined with the pharmas that people are already prescribed, then the unpredictable situation becomes even worse. This does not require scientific study for harm reduction, but simply a clean and true product available to those who need it.

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Re: Johns Hopkins DMT Entity Survey [Re: Spivkurl]
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I agree with what your saying, but even synthetic chemicals stem from natural sources and maybe we ended up discovering them do our strong connection to these natural sources. For example
http://today.oregonstate.edu/archives/2015/feb/amber-fossil-links-earliest-grasses-dinosaurs-and-fungus-used-produce-lsd
Even the earliest dinosaurs had a deep rooted connection to the source of lsd, as well as humans, considering grain is one of our biggest and oldest agricultural crops.  Now this does leave the conversation open to question  such as " Are highly refined materials bad for our health mentally and spiritually?"


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Re: Johns Hopkins DMT Entity Survey [Re: Khepri]
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Precursors do not produce the effects in humans that the synthetic chemicals produced from them do. I would wager that synthesis is more of a product of capitalist greed, and the tendency to want things to be "bigger, harder, faster, more." Both of these sort of go hand in hand... once you synthesize a product which is active at microgram levels, then it can easily be marketed, cut, and profited from.

LSD in general seems like kind of a fluke in human history. Don't get me wrong, I have loved it, and still would were it available. I do believe that things would have progressed far differently for humans if ergot had the kind of effects that LSD has.

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Re: Johns Hopkins DMT Entity Survey [Re: Spivkurl]
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After having spent some time seriously experimenting with IV dmt, there are times even years later, where even after having woken up from a dream, where I may feel generally confused, similarly to the dmt experience itself. Sometimes I truly feel like I haven't come back from that trip yet.


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I am incapable of conceiving infinity, and yet I do not accept finity.
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Re: Johns Hopkins DMT Entity Survey [Re: snoot]
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I feel this way about my first psilocybin expirience from when I was 12 that was 17 years ago and from time to time the thought will cross my mind that maybe the last 17 years is still just that first trip.

But it's that same expirience that has caused me to be able to see the good when things are rough.


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Re: Johns Hopkins DMT Entity Survey [Re: snoot]
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snoot said:
After having spent some time seriously experimenting with IV dmt, there are times even years later, where even after having woken up from a dream, where I may feel generally confused, similarly to the dmt experience itself. Sometimes I truly feel like I haven't come back from that trip yet.


I can't even begin to truly understand. Just from smoking the stuff it has changed me and brought colours and dimensions into my dream states that were previously impossible.

I really don't think I could bring myself to IV it. I don't know. Unimaginable. I often fight off white outs and struggle with trip amnesia on 40-50mg doses... IV would probably just turn the lights off.

Did you write a trip report?


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