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Re: All psychologist want to talk about is my drug use [Re: Near Dylan]
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I've had issues with anxiety and depression way before I used any recreational drugs. Right now I'm seeing a psych because of my friends death and alot of underlying depression and anxiety. This guys wasting my time talking about how drugs are bad.


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Re: All psychologist want to talk about is my drug use [Re: Psyche delics] * 2
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Edited by Anonymous (08/14/20 08:23 PM)

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Re: All psychologist want to talk about is my drug use [Re: Psyche delics] * 1
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Psyche delics said:
I've had issues with anxiety and depression way before I used any recreational drugs. Right now I'm seeing a psych because of my friends death and alot of underlying depression and anxiety. This guys wasting my time talking about how drugs are bad.


I'm no psychologist but I wouldn't advise taking drugs to cope with the lose of a friend, either.. It's not about drugs being bad its about drugs not being a fix to your problems, and having a negative emotional effect in the long run.

Sorry to hear about your friend man


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Re: All psychologist want to talk about is my drug use [Re: Near Dylan]
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Near Dylan said:
we all gotta face it one day.

drugs are for fun. not for therapy. if you are medicating depression, anxiety, or insecurity with drugs, youre doing it wrong. drugs are to make life fun. not to make all your negative emotions go away. I guarantee if you stop self-medicating with kratom and other shit, you'll see massive improvements, and I think your therapist knows that. shes not gonna be able to do much to help you if youre just gonna run right back home and down some kratom to instantly feel like everything is ok


Oh yea?

What would the psych do for those problems?...

Theyd prescribe drugs...

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Re: All psychologist want to talk about is my drug use [Re: stzacrack]
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It is not a good point.

The psychologist, like I said, most likely wouldn't prescribe him anything recreational. It would likely be mood stabilizer, or something along the lines of that, considering he is open about his drug abuse with her. Even in the unlikely case she does trust him a benzo prescription, that is much different then him just doing the recreational drugs he does however often or in whatever doses he does now.

I'm not saying psychologists are the answer. I don't think anyone should ever go to a psychologist. I think dealing with our problems ourselves and with loved ones and friends is almost always best. I'm just trying to rationalize the thoughts of the psychiatrist, since you guys seem to get the wrong idea about her intentions.


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Re: All psychologist want to talk about is my drug use [Re: Near Dylan] * 2
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The psychologist wouldn't prescribe anything at all because they cant. I'm already on medication and have been for years. I'm seeing a psychologist for behavior therapy.


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Re: All psychologist want to talk about is my drug use [Re: Psyche delics]
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Near Dylan said:
I'm just trying to rationalize the thoughts of the psychiatrist, since you guys seem to get the wrong idea about her intentions.


Anybody who is making money trying to help someone isnt trying to help someone. Theyre trying to make money.

Near Dylan said:
I think dealing with our problems ourselves and with loved ones and friends is almost always best..


Which is why this will always be a significantly better option than any "paid help"

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Re: All psychologist want to talk about is my drug use [Re: GoldenEye]
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GoldenEye said:
Another viewpoint is that the main goal of a psychiatrist is to help you function (and fit) in society.


It's possible to find a therapist who will help you discover how you are causing your emotional disturbances.

Many people blame life for their depression, anger, and anxiety, but the cause is from within.

As the ancient saying goes, "you are your own worst enemy" . . .

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Re: All psychologist want to talk about is my drug use [Re: MollyLucyMaryJane] * 2
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MollyLucyMaryJane said:
Near Dylan said:
I'm just trying to rationalize the thoughts of the psychiatrist, since you guys seem to get the wrong idea about her intentions.


Anybody who is making money trying to help someone isnt trying to help someone. Theyre trying to make money.



As someone who has been busting my ass for the past three years in non-profit mental health agencies for a wage that barely keeps my bills paid I find this blanket statement out of touch with reality and incredibly fatalistic.

.....If you really want to feel comfortable that you're talking to someone who isn't in it for the money go speak with a psychologist at a reputable non-profit..  It's not like as soon as you get your degree and certifications you instantly begin to scheme how you're going to wring people for all the cash they are willing to hand over.  That's ridiculous to say, especially in something as serious as mental health. 

A few bad eggs ruin the reputation of many.

Edited by Psicomb (01/21/18 01:09 AM)

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Re: All psychologist want to talk about is my drug use [Re: Psicomb]
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Yeah dude my aunt is a psychiatrist and she talks about her patients all the time and is worried about them. Just because something is your job doesn't mean you have to have bad intentions. I have a feeling MollyLucyMaryJane has a bad work ethic if he thinks that making money off something=bad intentions. No one becomes a psychologist if they don't give a fuck about people. MLMJ seems to have a very bleak perception of humanity


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Re: All psychologist want to talk about is my drug use [Re: Near Dylan]
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Maybe just maybe your anxiety and depression and other life problems stem from your drug use? If you are going through the trouble of seeing a psych you should listen to them

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Re: All psychologist want to talk about is my drug use [Re: Psyche delics]
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From their point of view you take drugs to mask your feelings. They can't fix masked feelings.

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Re: All psychologist want to talk about is my drug use [Re: Crazy_Horse] * 2
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It does seem like reaching for the low hanging fruit a bit though doesn't it? It strikes me that a good therapist would look at the causes of which the drugs are a symptom.

When I spent fifteen months in therapy I was very lucky to have a very good therapist. She helped me immeasurably. I was in a very dark place in my life at the time and was doing a lot of drugs, and whilst she would advise me, gently, to tone down my use she never pushed the matter nor made me uncomfortable about it.

Instead, she helped me to look deeply at what was driving it, and thus, I cleaned up in my own time.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: All psychologist want to talk about is my drug use [Re: Psyche delics] * 1
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Psyche delics said:
Doctors use drugs to "cure" anxiety all the time.


Doctors do not use drugs to "cure" anxiety. They use them to "treat it. Penicillin cures an infection while antihistamines are used to treat the symptoms.

There is no quick fix cure for anxiety...it will be lessened over time by some hard inside work on your part and maybe some intense therapy with someone you trust.


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Look Deep Into Nature,and Then You Will Understand Everything Better.

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Re: All psychologist want to talk about is my drug use [Re: Near Dylan]
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Near Dylan said:
I have a feeling MollyLucyMaryJane has a bad work ethic if he thinks that making money off something=bad intentions. No one becomes a psychologist if they don't give a fuck about people. MLMJ seems to have a very bleak perception of humanity


You seem to have a very bleak perception of me. Most likely because my opinion differs from yours.

That doesnt mean that I have a bleak perception of humanity, nor does it mean I have a bad work ethic. I believe its human instinct to be selfish and greedy.
In a situation where it's just someones job to "help you" and they would rather be home watching TV but they have to do this job they hate for money.... I just dont see that being as productive as getting help from people who actually care about you.

Im probably wrong go. Go see your theripist who would rather be at home, Disregard your family and friends and rely on a complete stranger who is, of course, making way more money than their qualifications are worth.

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Re: All psychologist want to talk about is my drug use [Re: MollyLucyMaryJane] * 1
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MollyLucyMaryJane said:
That doesnt mean that I have a bleak perception of humanity


You made it quite clear that you do a few days ago:

MollyLucyMaryJane said:
nvm fuck people.

always been an outcast always will be, idk why i continue bothering to try.

Just know, I hate you all too, the feeling couldn't possibly be more mutual.


I think it's completely innapropriate for you to say things like this:

MollyLucyMaryJane said:
In a situation where it's just someones job to "help you" and they would rather be home watching TV but they have to do this job they hate for money....

Go see your theripist who would rather be at home


You're entitled to your opinions and all, but keep these shitty, jaded, blanket statements out of here. It's not welcome.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: All psychologist want to talk about is my drug use [Re: MollyLucyMaryJane]
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Pretty much what he said.

You clearly have a pessimistic view on people. You need to interact with more humans and develop a more realistic view on society and the people around you. Might be surprised to find out not everyone with a job is half-assing it and fucking people over cuz theyre bored


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Re: All psychologist want to talk about is my drug use [Re: Near Dylan]
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All this dude does is talk about himself and how he used to do drugs...


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Re: All psychologist want to talk about is my drug use [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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Jokeshopbeard said:
You're entitled to your opinions and all, but keep these shitty, jaded, blanket statements out of here. It's not welcome.


Just because I hate people and how I have been treated by them in my life doesnt mean I dont wish they were better and I dont have hope for an "awakening" of the people. Some kind of realization that we all need to be nice to each other, not cruel and distant.
I have hope for a lost, confused, MEAN humanity. Not a "bleak perception"

If I didnt care about people all... That would be a bleak perception. I have morals and I have respect. I have hope.
Remember you can only hate something you once cared about. Otherwise it would just be indifference.

I also never said every single therapist in the world is bad. What I am saying is that people that care about you will always be a more solid choice than someone who is profiting for helping you. This shit is just common fucking sense.


If I am entitled to my opinions than why arent they welcome here? see now youre contradicting yourself because my opinion has most likely made you angry and youre not thinking clearly anymore.

So uhhh Keep your shitty, jaded insults to yourself instead of flaming me for having a different perspective.
Ty

Edited by MollyLucyMaryJane (01/24/18 02:25 PM)

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Re: All psychologist want to talk about is my drug use [Re: MollyLucyMaryJane]
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i didn't say to my psy that i smoke week, take mushrooms peyote ayahuasca... that's not her problem :grin:

psy can't understand that they are medicines for me so i won't loose my time by trying to explain this to them.. because she will think that weed is a problem and no.. for me weed is my everyday medecine, it helps against fibromyalgia pains, helps me to relax well (and yeah i like to travel with my mind that's not a crime :grin:)

i just speak to my psy of my everyday problem since i have the asperger syndrom...

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