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ID Request FL
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Habitat:
Cow field
Underneath giant bushes/shrubbery
Directly on cow dung
SW FL

Gills:
Not very experienced at describing gills but they seem to not be attached. Color is dark almost black, kind of earthy brown.

Stem:
Very thin, might have been hollow (dried out now). The ones in the pictures varied from a few centimeters to about 8 centimeters. Some of the others that I didn't pick seemed a lot taller.

Cap:
The small ones were about 1cm the big one was about 3cm.

Spore print color:
Jet black

Images:
http://i.imgur.com/IPRbRCU.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/hoI020n.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Q7iIEka.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/q8GhPXB.jpg

Edited by l_JveQ_8 (07/02/17 01:28 PM)

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Re: ID Request FL [Re: l_JveQ_8]
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Unless you are seeing blue/green bruising they're likely Panaeolus antillarum. Cyanescens should show clear greenish/bluish (cyan colored) bruising.


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Re: ID Request FL [Re: SWFL]
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Thanks for the reply!

Not sure about the brusing. One of the caps is still somewhat moist/full going to see if it will bruise. If not i'll go back and bruise some fresh ones.

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Re: ID Request FL [Re: SWFL]
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SWFL said:
Unless you are seeing blue/green bruising they're likely Panaeolus antillarum. Cyanescens should show clear greenish/bluish (cyan colored) bruising.



What he said. :thumbup:


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Re: ID Request FL [Re: Tmethyl]
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Exactly. They look like ants to me too.


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Re: ID Request FL [Re: Steveinshell]
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Just going by wikipedia descriptions the ants seems to have thicker stems  (0.5cm to 2cm) whereas the cyans have very thin (2mm to 3mm).

How true is that?

All of the shrooms I saw of seemed to have very thin stems even the very mature ones.

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Re: ID Request FL [Re: l_JveQ_8]
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l_JveQ_8 said:
Just going by wikipedia descriptions the ants seems to have thicker stems  (0.5cm to 2cm) whereas the cyans have very thin (2mm to 3mm).

How true is that?

All of the shrooms I saw of seemed to have very thin stems even the very mature ones.



When it comes to fruit body shape and size all you can say is it 'can' be true.
The amount of substrate, the amount of moisture in the substrate, the amount of moving air, amount of light, etc, can all affect the width and height of any given mushroom species. You can use measurements like this to learn some guidelines for typical growth but there can always be variations. I have found Panaeolus cyanescens in the wild which were absolutely massive for the species, and I've found tiny Panaeolus ants.

Think of it like humans, we are all the same species but stand in awe at the genetic variations.


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Re: ID Request FL [Re: Tmethyl]
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Those are panaeolous cyanescens except the one with the whiter cap at the top left. Also, pan. Cyanescens can take 20-45 min to bruise blue, most will be the grayish color with the orangish center on the cap. Antillarum have thicker stems and a shiny cap, cyanescens are dull with no shine.

Edited by Doc9151 (07/02/17 02:39 PM)

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Re: ID Request FL [Re: Doc9151]
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I can see blue bruising on the stipes of the bigger two.
Edit: Thats a beautiful print by the way


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Edited by Doc9151 (07/02/17 02:41 PM)

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Re: ID Request FL [Re: Doc9151]
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Must be my phone I have looked like ten times I can't see any bruising..  time for a new phone.


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Edited by Steveinshell (07/02/17 04:17 PM)

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Re: ID Request FL [Re: Steveinshell]
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Op, can you see blue in the stem of the biggest one, towards the bottom of its stem,  it can look blackish blue. It looks to me to be two antillarum and cyanescens.  Top far lest antillarum,  bottom horizontal antillarum,  the other ywo look like pan. Cyanescens ive been picking here lately. Here's a pic of a stem from a cyanescens I picked yesterday. You can see how they turn blackish blue as they dry. Also, the cap of antillarum will turn to goop as it dries and cyanescens won't.


Edited by Doc9151 (07/02/17 05:49 PM)

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