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Did Syrian Government Order Chemical Attack against Rebels? * 1
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A few days ago it was reported that the Syrian Government launched a chemical attack against US backed Rebels.  But does that narrative really make ANY sense to anyone?

First of all, the Syrian Government previously came under very heavy international criticism for its chemical weapons, and agreed to remove them in 2014.  Clearly, using chemical weapons again would turn the entire world against the Syrian Government, and Assad would have little hope of keeping power.

But additionally, Syria has a very capable Air Force with plenty of Russian support.  Why would they feel any need to drop chemical weapons on the rebels rather than just using their bombs?


To me it makes no logical sense.


Syria says it bombed a rebel warehouse, and the chemicals came from inside that warehouse.  Russia also takes this position and is asking for an international investigation to look into what really happened.  But the West historically doesn't like to collaborate with Russia on things like this.


Here's an RT article covering the story. 

Rebel warehouse with chem weapons hit by Syrian airstrike

I realize RT is a Russian source, but it's been surprisingly good thus far at reporting things accurately, and even reputable journalists like Larry King and Ed Schultz now work for RT.


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: Did Syrian Government Order Chemical Attack against Rebels? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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wHAT IS WHEN YOU DRAWING A LINE IN RED, AND NON UNDERSTAND UNCOUTH CLUELESS ABOUT LEADERSHIP.
OBAMA AND BOTH BUSH AN CAN TEL LL WHAT BOTH THEM, AND TRUMP, HAVE ARE CLUELESS WHAT.  STICK AN EMENA UN THIS MID EAST, SADAM ATTACKS KURDISH, US IRANIANS, AND WHO IN? 

NON-GO TO FIGHT.

wHAT IS NEXT HEARING MCCAIN UP JUST AND SREAMING JUST ON THE FLOOR "wHEN ARE WE GOING TO SEND IN BOMBERS"

WHAT IS CLUELESS THEY ARE POLICITACIAL SOME NOT ALWAYS SEEM TO START A NEW WAR.  OF COURSE, FOR SOME IN COULD SYRIAN.  OTHERS HAVE YES, AND WILL THEM BUY BOTH SIDE.

WE HAVE WE NOTHING?

WHAT MADE IT BUSH, THEY COMPLETES WITH OBAMA DEBASTIBILEZ THE MIDEAST EAST.


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Re: Did Syrian Government Order Chemical Attack against Rebels? [Re: starfire_xes]
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I agree, the US has definitely destabilized the middle east.

Do you think the chemicals came from Assad, or the rebel warehouse?


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: Did Syrian Government Order Chemical Attack against Rebels? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Honest question if I can't upload a nirvana song or a video with too much side boob (as YouTube automatically flags and removes it)


Then how do Syrian terrorists upload videos of chemical attacks for global sharing and viewing?


Am I missing something? A browser plugin that overrides yotubes criteria? What is it


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Enlils true purpose is to get us off topic and to cast enough logical doubts so that outsiders viewing this would be more likely to side with his fake opinions rather than our or sometimes controlled opppsotions opinions.


You see if you are too skilled at not falling for their traps and stating logically sound debunks then other accounts who purposefully agree with 90% of the truth join in and get the entire topic off the main points.

It's their 1960s version of damage control and diversion but man it's painfully obvious in 2017

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Re: Did Syrian Government Order Chemical Attack against Rebels? [Re: Psychonott]
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The Nirvana song is deleted because of copyright violations.  I'm not sure why you're complaining about side boob removal, as YouTube allows much more than that (CAUTION: NOT SAFE FOR WORK):



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Re: Did Syrian Government Order Chemical Attack against Rebels? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
A few days ago it was reported that the Syrian Government launched a chemical attack against US backed Rebels.  But does that narrative really make ANY sense to anyone?

First of all, the Syrian Government previously came under very heavy international criticism for its chemical weapons, and agreed to remove them in 2014.  Clearly, using chemical weapons again would turn the entire world against the Syrian Government, and Assad would have little hope of keeping power.

But additionally, Syria has a very capable Air Force with plenty of Russian support.  Why would they feel any need to drop chemical weapons on the rebels rather than just using their bombs?


To me it makes no logical sense.


Syria says it bombed a rebel warehouse, and the chemicals came from inside that warehouse.  Russia also takes this position and is asking for an international investigation to look into what really happened.  But the West historically doesn't like to collaborate with Russia on things like this.


Here's an RT article covering the story. 

Rebel warehouse with chem weapons hit by Syrian airstrike

I realize RT is a Russian source, but it's been surprisingly good thus far at reporting things accurately, and even reputable journalists like Larry King and Ed Schultz now work for RT.


Your narrative seems correct.

I have been curious about Middle  East air power. My interest was primarily motivated  on how much we could fly around with impunity, while knowing a hand held weapon could take down a helicopter. Israel certainly and I have to assume Saudi Arabia have fleets of U.S. jets, and the former may manufacture their own. Who else has significant air power?


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I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either.

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Re: Did Syrian Government Order Chemical Attack against Rebels? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
I agree, the US has definitely destabilized the middle east.

Do you think the chemicals came from Assad, or the rebel warehouse?

 

pROBABLY.  remeber for theM AND OTHER USED THEM THEM FOR THERE AGENDA.  probably assad.  what there are OTHER FACTIONS.  tHAT WILL USED THEM.  DO MANY KILL OTHER EMENIES.  there too many hate otheRS. IN mideast east.


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Re: Did Syrian Government Order Chemical Attack against Rebels? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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(I'm sure you got the joke but I know many people here play stupid) It was more of a facetious joke that simple daily users get flagged immediately for the smallest of infractions of YouTubes criteria


Yet many terrorists organizations upload horrific and shocking videos that violate these rules in a much more clear And obvious manner.

Yet not only do they pass the initial uploading criteria


But while mainstream media is hyper focusing on these media they are still available for global streaming and sharing


Am I missing something or can some explain why terrorists get carte blanche ?


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Enlils true purpose is to get us off topic and to cast enough logical doubts so that outsiders viewing this would be more likely to side with his fake opinions rather than our or sometimes controlled opppsotions opinions.


You see if you are too skilled at not falling for their traps and stating logically sound debunks then other accounts who purposefully agree with 90% of the truth join in and get the entire topic off the main points.

It's their 1960s version of damage control and diversion but man it's painfully obvious in 2017

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Re: Did Syrian Government Order Chemical Attack against Rebels? [Re: Psychonott]
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Psychonott said:
simple daily users get flagged immediately for the smallest of infractions of YouTubes criteria


Again, copyright violations get taken down immediately, probably because the music companies are constantly screening YouTube for such violations and report them immediately.  I don't think other videos come down like you claim, unless the side boob is part of a copyrighted music video.  :shrug:


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Re: Did Syrian Government Order Chemical Attack against Rebels? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Trust me they do and anyone who has uploading experience to YouTube will say the same



Just another glaring whole in the "never ending war on terrorism"


Terrorists get carte Blanche whilst everyone else on YouTube must follow YouTube crtieria


Highly unlikely but we'll just have trust them on this right!?


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Enlils true purpose is to get us off topic and to cast enough logical doubts so that outsiders viewing this would be more likely to side with his fake opinions rather than our or sometimes controlled opppsotions opinions.


You see if you are too skilled at not falling for their traps and stating logically sound debunks then other accounts who purposefully agree with 90% of the truth join in and get the entire topic off the main points.

It's their 1960s version of damage control and diversion but man it's painfully obvious in 2017

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Re: Did Syrian Government Order Chemical Attack against Rebels? [Re: Brian Jones]
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Brian Jones said:
I have been curious about Middle  East air power. My interest was primarily motivated  on how much we could fly around with impunity, while knowing a hand held weapon could take down a helicopter.


I think we lose a lot more aircraft than is reported.  I get a quarterly newsletter about fellow alumni who have died, and I usually read about at least one who died in an aircraft related military operation.



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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: Did Syrian Government Order Chemical Attack against Rebels? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Agreed.
Additionally, does your average American know how much ordinance we drop ? like over 20,0000:

https://www.pri.org/stories/2016-04-10/us-dropping-bombs-quicker-it-can-make-them

Coupled with the unreported air stikes

https://www.google.com/amp/www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Unreported-Air-Strikes-Carried-out-in-Middle-East-Investigation-412983213.html%3famp=y


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“I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

Edited by SirTripAlot (04/05/17 05:04 PM)

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Re: Did Syrian Government Order Chemical Attack against Rebels? [Re: SirTripAlot]
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And now Trump wants to go in, LOL, and Single Payer Healthcare!

https://vid.me/KZGz

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Re: Did Syrian Government Order Chemical Attack against Rebels? [Re: akira_akuma]
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Perfect time for Wag the Dog?


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“I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

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Re: Did Syrian Government Order Chemical Attack against Rebels? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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RT is "surprisingly good"?  They are just another Breitbart.  They propound 9/11 inside job theories.  How can you cite them with a straight face?


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Re: Did Syrian Government Order Chemical Attack against Rebels? [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
RT is "surprisingly good"?  They are just another Breitbart.  They propound 9/11 inside job theories.  How can you cite them with a straight face?


I searched for evidence of what you claim and couldn't find any, although I've found OTHER sites trying to smear RT.com by saying that.  I'm not saying you're wrong, just that I can't find evidence on RT.com supporting your claim.  Can you???

I did, however, find a lot of RT.com articles that contradict what you just said:

Noam Chomsky slams 9/11 truthers
In conspiracy we trust (making fun of conspiracy theorists)
9/11 should be taught in school to save kids from conspiracy theories – ex-Navy boss


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Re: Did Syrian Government Order Chemical Attack against Rebels? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Re: Did Syrian Government Order Chemical Attack against Rebels? [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
I can't find evidence on RT.com supporting your claim.  Can you???





That's not RT.com, that's YouTube.

Admittedly, it does appear this was on their site at one time.  But to their credit, it's not there today, while the other links I provided are.


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Re: Did Syrian Government Order Chemical Attack against Rebels? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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I didn't say it was on RT.com.  I said it was on RT.  Maybe it was on the site, maybe it wasn't.  Nonetheless, RT did produce that.  Maybe they've changed their tune...maybe they just tried to appear more mainstream.  I don't know.  Still, that's a pretty hard thing to get past in just a few years.

If CNN aired something like that, I'd have to disregard them, too.


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Re: Did Syrian Government Order Chemical Attack against Rebels? [Re: Enlil]
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Well, the point is it's gone, and they're clearly siding with the terror story now.  I'm sure CNN has at least a few crazy stories they've done that they now regret.


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