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OfflineReTrIbUtIoN
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Eating Salvia
    #2374560 - 02/24/04 04:08 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

My question is simple, can you eat salvia and get the same effect or is it much more potent being smoked?. I remember hearing that it can be absorbed in your saliva glands. I rescently ordered some from naturesmind. I am talking about the regular salvia leaves.


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Re: Eating Salvia [Re: ReTrIbUtIoN]
    #2374621 - 02/24/04 04:23 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia_dose.shtml

yes you can take it sublingually. supposedly only works good if you make it into a tincture or extract though....


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Re: Eating Salvia [Re: ReTrIbUtIoN]
    #2524941 - 04/04/04 05:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i would just smoke it out of a water pipe, that seems to work the best good luck


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Re: Eating Salvia [Re: ReTrIbUtIoN]
    #2525743 - 04/04/04 10:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I've heard smoking out of a pipe works best. But thats just what ive heard.


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Re: Eating Salvia [Re: ReTrIbUtIoN]
    #2525747 - 04/04/04 10:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

If you just eat the salvia, probably nothing will happen...you could swallow like 15mg of pure salvinorin a and get only treshhold effects...

A tincture works best. You'd have to extract your leaves with some ethanol...And t inctures are relatively easy to make...


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Re: Eating Salvia [Re: ReTrIbUtIoN]
    #2526610 - 04/05/04 05:39 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

"yes you can take it sublingually. supposedly only works good if you make it into a tincture or extract though."

dont bother. was such a waste of my time.


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Re: Eating Salvia [Re: LCid]
    #2527013 - 04/05/04 11:29 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

LCid speaks many great truths :yesnod:

JUST SMOKE IT


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Re: Eating Salvia [Re: ReTrIbUtIoN]
    #2527618 - 04/05/04 02:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I've got a retarded ass friend that ate a bunch when i wasnt looking, he puked up blood that night, wasnt pretty.

I'd recommend against it, just smoke that shit


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Re: Eating Salvia [Re: ReTrIbUtIoN]
    #2528951 - 04/05/04 08:53 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

not to mention, salvia is one of the most foul tasting things ever put on this earth (next to dxm).

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Re: Eating Salvia [Re: ReTrIbUtIoN]
    #2723846 - 05/24/04 06:32 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

If you have access to fresh leaves of salvia, I have heard from a Terrence McKenna tape that you can get like twenty or so leaves and twist them into a chaw and put that in your mouth. Don't eat it but just suck on it for a long time and then take it out of your mouth and go lay down in a dark room. You should feel the effects soon and it lasts about forty five minutes oppossed to the flash of smoking it.
Have never tried this method but have heard that fresh salvia leaves are easy to get ahold of and that you can grow them very easily and legally.


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Re: Eating Salvia [Re: mecreateme]
    #2724452 - 05/24/04 09:33 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I actually tried that last night with about 15-20 salvia leaves and made it into a quid. It was my first time trying it and I wasn't expecting much, but it worked for sure. As suggested by one source, I brushed my entire mouth with a toothbrush to scrape off dead cells and then used mouthwash. After about 25 minutes of chewing I spit it out and laid down in my bed. About a minute after, the familiar salvia pull came on, only much weaker and with a usually absent feeling of euphoria. Closed eye visuals were pretty intricate, but weren't true hallucinations really. Like I could "sense" the entire scene, but not "see" it. Strange thoughts/mind warps continued for about 25-30 minutes until I fell asleep. Overall it was enjoyable, much easier to work with, and brought on some strange sensations I haven't gotten by smoking it. Definitely worth trying, although it takes considerably more leaves. :smile:


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Re: Eating Salvia [Re: ReTrIbUtIoN]
    #2724503 - 05/24/04 09:48 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Smoke it in the bong


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Re: Eating Salvia [Re: FatVsAsia]
    #2726347 - 05/25/04 05:17 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

salvinorin is a funny chemical:
it is hard like plastic and hard to dissolve in body juices, however if you chew leaves (not just suck it) it will get ground out of the trichomes (on the underside of the leaves) and it will become absorbed slowly through oral mucosa or gut (not much difference).
solutions like tinctures work, the dissolved particles are absorbed.
tinctures can be drunk but it is a bit weaker than holding it in the mouth. (I would swallow after that anyway)
On the other hand if you smoke it (even if it is not exactly vapourized at a melting temperature but merely dispersed from leaf as leaf burns to ash) then the tiny particles will be absorbed quickly through the huge surface area of the lungs. The quick absorption makes for a deep immersion into salviaspace.
The mazatecs would pulverize the leaves into an emulsion and that was effective for drinking (I believe since the particles of salavinorin were smashed so tiny that they would be absorbed)
just sucking a rock of salvinorin will probably not work well, it would have to be very chewed down. swallowed whole it woud do less than a smaller amount in an emulsion.
smoking or vaporizing is best.


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