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Senate blocks gun measures offered in wake of Orlando shooting 1
#23364391 - 06/20/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Senate blocks gun measures offered in wake of Orlando shooting
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WASHINGTON — The Senate voted down a series of gun measures Monday, including a GOP-backed proposal to research the causes of mass shootings and boost funding for the background check system and a Democratic-sponsored amendment that to expand background check requirements for gun buyers.
Democrats had opposed the GOP legislation because it does not expand background checks, and they said some provisions could make it easier for mentally ill individuals to buy guns. Republicans have said expanding background checks would not stop mass shootings.
A total of 53 senators voted in favor of the first bill and 44 supported the second, short of the 60 votes required to survive.
The Senate also rejected a Republican measure to ban gun sales to suspected terrorists, and a Democratic version of that language was likely to lose as well.
Ahead of the votes, the chamber's Democratic and Republican leaders offered no indication that any of the measures will get the bipartisan support needed to advance.
The Senate voted down similar bills in December after the shooting rampage in San Bernardino, Calif. With the current party split in the Senate, any successful bid to toughen gun laws would need bipartisan support to get to the 60-vote threshold. There are 54 Republicans and 46 Democrats and Independents who caucus with them.
USA TODAY A look at the 4 gun bills up for vote in Senate
Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., suggested Monday that Democrats are simply using the issue as a political talking point and said the two GOP-backed measures sponsored by Sens. John Cornyn, R-Texas, and Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, are "real solutions."
"No one wants a terrorist to be able to buy guns or explosives. No one," McConnell said. "Instead of using this as an opportunity to push a partisan agenda or craft the next 30-second campaign ad, colleagues like Sen. Cornyn and Sen. Grassley are pursuing real solutions that can help keep Americans safer from the threat of terrorism."
Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., called the Republican measures "political stunts" and said they are "meaningless in doing something to stop gun violence."
"These are amendments to divert attention from real legislation," Reid said. "Why? So Republicans (can) say 'Hey, look, we tried,' and all the time their cheerleaders, their bosses at the NRA, are cheering."
Democrats say the GOP is out of step with the American people, pointing to polls that show a majority want stricter gun laws. An NBC News/Survey Monkey online poll conducted after the Orlando massacre last week found 61% of those surveyed support stricter gun laws; 38% opposed them. The survey also found 60% support a ban on "assault weapons" and 38% oppose it.
A Monmouth University telephone poll released Monday had a tighter margin, with 52% supporting such a ban and 43% opposing it.
Omar Mateen had legally purchased a semi-automatic assault rifle and handgun before launching the rampage at Pulse nightclub in Orlando that left 49 dead and 53 injured.
The Senate did not schedule a vote on an assault weapons ban Monday. The four measures scheduled for votes were proposed amendments to legislation funding the Commerce and Justice Departments for the next fiscal year.
The first that was rejected was sponsored by Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa. It called for research on the causes of mass shootings and increases funding for the background check system, although it would not have expanded the types of gun sales that require them
Senators then rejected an amendment sponsored by Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., which would have expanded background check requirements to include private sales and sales over the Internet.
The third vote blocked action on an amendment sponsored by Cornyn that would allow federal law enforcement officials to delay gun sales to suspected terrorists, including those on watch and no-fly lists, for three days and then halt the sales, but only after proving probable cause before a judge.
The final vote scheduled was on an amendment sponsored by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., that would allow the attorney general to halt sales to suspected terrorists and allow individuals to appeal to the Department of Justice if they are denied a firearm.
USA TODAY Sen. Feinstein: Our proposal will help save lives
Republicans said they oppose the Feinstein measure because they say it does not provide enough due process for individuals wrongly barred from buying guns.
“Tonight Senate will vote on 2 bills to keep guns out of terrorists hands, but only one — the Cornyn bill — complies with the Constitution,” Cornyn tweeted Monday.
Republicans also have said expanding background checks would not do anything to prevent mass shootings. They said criminals will get guns anyway, for example by having others buy them for them.
Ahead of the votes Monday, gun violence survivors made the rounds on Capitol Hill trying to persuade senators to vote for stricter laws, including Erica Lafferty, daughter of Sandy Hook Elementary principal Dawn Lafferty Hochsprung who was slain in 2012, and Colin Goddard, who was shot four times and survived the mass shooting at Virginia Tech in 2007.
Sen. Kelly Ayotte, R-N.H, who is locked in a tough re-election battle, took to the Senate floor before the votes Monday and appealed to her colleagues to come together to find a compromise.
She said she has been working with fellow Republican Sens. Susan Collins of Maine, Jeff Flake of Arizona and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina on a bill that would ban gun sales to the roughly 900 Americans on the no-fly list, a smaller number than the thousands on watch lists covered under Feinstein’s proposal.
“There is a solution here and I’m committed to finding it, but to find that solution we have to come together instead of having competing proposals that have already mostly failed in this chamber when we took these votes back in December,” she said. “Let’s put aside the gamesmanship and come together to get a proposal that will be effective and get a result for the American people.”
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luvdemboomers
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Re: Senate blocks gun measures offered in wake of Orlando shooting [Re: tdubz]
#23364455 - 06/20/16 05:20 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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good
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Prisoner#1
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Re: Senate blocks gun measures offered in wake of Orlando shooting [Re: tdubz]
#23364487 - 06/20/16 05:32 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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so the republicans wanted money and the democrats are just retarded
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Re: Senate blocks gun measures offered in wake of Orlando shooting [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23364501 - 06/20/16 05:36 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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thanks dicks
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Konyap

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Re: Senate blocks gun measures offered in wake of Orlando shooting [Re: luvdemboomers]
#23364507 - 06/20/16 05:38 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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these people are so crazy they would blame the mentally ill? What do they define as mentally ill and mentally iller or brain damage time...
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Re: Senate blocks gun measures offered in wake of Orlando shooting [Re: Konyap]
#23364526 - 06/20/16 05:44 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thank god the republicans we elected en mass in 2014 are sticking to the promises they made for us to elect them
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Re: Senate blocks gun measures offered in wake of Orlando shooting [Re: iamrobed]
#23364645 - 06/20/16 06:31 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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iamrobed said: Thank god the republicans we elected en mass in 2014 are sticking to the promises they made for us to elect them
obamacare still gets funding
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