hostileuniverse said:

qman said:

Why question is, why were his parents who were from Afghanistan allowed to come and live in the US?

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Because we must tolerate people who hate us and want us dead or we are racist bigots

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Maroon said:

So you are suggesting immigration as the cause and no longer "assault weapons"

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qman said:

Maroon said:

So you are suggesting immigration as the cause and no longer "assault weapons"

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Nope, just asking the basic question of how his parents from Afghanistan were allowed to stay in the US, maybe it was completely legal, I don't know.

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Maroon said:

Then sounds like you can leave American HU

In America no
Matter how offensive others are entitled to their speech don't like it too bad lol

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Maroon said:

Then sounds like you can leave American HU

In America no
Matter how offensive others are entitled to their speech don't like it too bad lol

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Maroon said:

So let's focus on gun aspect of it.


We know prohibition does not work as evidenced by drugs and alcohol


What makes people think it magically changes when applying it to criminals or guns?

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BoldAsLove said:

Maroon said:

So let's focus on gun aspect of it.


We know prohibition does not work as evidenced by drugs and alcohol


What makes people think it magically changes when applying it to criminals or guns?

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There is a reason that the US has way more gun deaths than other developed countries. Are you telling me it's not even remotely related to easy access to guns?

Also, it's important to clarify that almost no one is talking about gun prohibition. They are mainly talking about common sense policies to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people. For example, why shouldn't we have universal background checks for gun purchases?

The assault weapons ban comes up time and again, and while shootings like Orlando are a tragedy, the vast majority of gun deaths are due to handguns. The assault weapons ban is really more of a distraction that's easy to sell emotionally.

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Maroon said:

I don't care what events have transpired or whatever terminology you used to begin the erosion of basic rights away. No such thing as commons sense legislation here....


But the constitution is clear on arms and innocence.

Criminals do not follow laws and we know the effectiveness of prohibition.

Plus statistically you are more likely to die so many more ways then gun violence even in America it's incredibly low.

So please tell me what common sense begs here given the compounding issues prohibitions have proven time and time again

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BoldAsLove said:

Maroon said:

I don't care what events have transpired or whatever terminology you used to begin the erosion of basic rights away. No such thing as commons sense legislation here....


But the constitution is clear on arms and innocence.

Criminals do not follow laws and we know the effectiveness of prohibition.

Plus statistically you are more likely to die so many more ways then gun violence even in America it's incredibly low.

So please tell me what common sense begs here given the compounding issues prohibitions have proven time and time again

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I already did. We are not talking about prohibition. No one is saying make guns illegal. I believe that criminals and those who are mentally unstable should not have easy/legal access to firearms, do you disagree? Because if you believe they should have weapons then we have a difference in opinion there is no point in us discussing gun policy.

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Maroon said:

And such is the price of a truly free society.

No crime is worth limiting my freedom one bit

And thank god I'm not the only who thought that the constitution is written in such a way


But conditioned minds have allowed willful modern misinterpretations of these laws to redefine original intents and you are just adding fuel to the fire because many see right through this

Which is why I'm sure gun sales are booming right as we speak

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BoldAsLove said:

American citizens should not have their constitutional rights taken away without due process. If he is proven to be a terrorist, then of course he shouldn't have access to a gun. If the FBI is unable to prove a link, then they should only be able to monitor.

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